you're another political idiot like Prince Akeem. It's not about supporting Republicans dummy it's about wielding political leverage properly.And Republicans have had such a warm embrace for black folk?
Politics in general are a mess but imma be damned if I'm givin mah support to a fukkin group who has shown nothin but unapologetic & flagrant disrespect/racism towards mah people and their causes for decades. Ain't no way in hell.
FOH wit dis bullshyt.
Stephen A. Smith: "A little soft shoe boss?"
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They are enablers. And take away all the means to get up out of poverty.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
But supporting the Republican party and their disastrous platform in the process.
I mean...something HAS to give, dog.
And the black ties to the Democratic Party are also overrated. 96% of a uninterested and shrinking voting bloc should no longer count as "support."
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A disastrous platform vs a disastrous outcome (with Democrats) . Makes no difference. What I do know is that doing the same thing expecting different results is insanity. Expecting better results by always voting democrat is pure idiocy.
OG_StankBrefs
Da Spice...
Yeah, let's all just vote for a bunch of people who give absolute ZERO ..not half, not a third, but ZERO fukks about our population of da country into err single position of authoritative & law makin power just to show our ability to "wield political leverage properly."
nikka, don'tchu eva call anybody else a fukkin idiot again.
Smith assumes this would work.
Remember who funds the GOP. We'll never have the dollars to force them to appease us at the expense of their current base and financial supporters.
BaldingSoHard
Banned
Eh.
Imo...
The job of the President is to not "steer the car into a creek" so to speak.
And that all depends on what shyt was like when they handed him the wheel.
Clinton got off easy, so he didn't have to do much to be considered the best of the bunch (imo).
Barack was handed a shytstorm, and has still managed to be decent.
This is also why I don't think Bush was as bad as everyone thinks (outside of starting the totally unnecessary Iraq war).
superunknown23
Superstar
Black republicans today are certified c00nS... Why would you vote for a party that works completely against your interests (when they're not too busy trying to disenfranchise you from voting)?
Putting token black or latino faces out there while spewing birther crap at Obama and "self-deportation for illegal aliens" at latinos won't change anything. It's about the policies, not the messengers.
Today, black folks either have to vote democrat or stay home. We just go with the lesser of evils.
Of course, black people supported the GOP in the old days (it was the party of Emancipation!) The most racist folks in this country were southerners. Republicans were considered liberal northerners, while the South was solidly conservative democrat.
Then things changed dramatically in the 50s and 60s.
Despite the political risks, LBJ pushed for civil rights legislation, angering southern conservatives along the way (dems and dixiecrats).
The result? Them racist southern voters flocked to the desperate GOP, which was in disarray after LBJ won the 1964 election in a landslide over the segregationist Republican Barry Goldwater.
Is it a coincidence that Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana and other southern states went republican for the first time since Reconstruction in the 1960s and have remained so? In 1964, Mississippi went from solidly democrat to 86% republican after just ONE election cycle! What the fukk happened? You'd think the Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with this sudden switch? The party of the hated Lincoln suddenly became popular among rednecks with confederate flags on their pickups...
The GOP stopped being the party of Lincoln in the 60s and became a Goldwater-Thurmond-Helms-Falwell-Nixon-Duke-Limbaugh-Reagan-Bush-Palin group. Why would any self-respecting black person associate with these bigots?
Do you honestly believe that men like Rockefeller, Everett Dirksen, Ike or even Teddy Roosevelt would still feel at home in the current GOP? This is the party of Jefferson Davis now, not Lincoln.
Also, it's so funny when republicans keep referring to MLK to obliquely criticize black people.
It's amazing how whitewashed MLK's image has become since his assassination. He delivered hundreds of radical speeches but the media always focuses on his most PG-rated one.
He was by far the most hated black man in America when he was alive. Conservatives absolutely DESPISED him when he was alive (especially William Buckley, Falwell, Reagan, Helms, Nixon and others)...They saw him as a dangerous communist, a troublemaker who eventually got what he deserved in 1968 (Reagan even implied that he had it coming).
They were enraged that his funeral was broadcast on all TV stations for 7.5 hours.
But now that he's sanctified (and safely dead) some conservatives even try to claim him
Putting token black or latino faces out there while spewing birther crap at Obama and "self-deportation for illegal aliens" at latinos won't change anything. It's about the policies, not the messengers.
Today, black folks either have to vote democrat or stay home. We just go with the lesser of evils.
Of course, black people supported the GOP in the old days (it was the party of Emancipation!) The most racist folks in this country were southerners. Republicans were considered liberal northerners, while the South was solidly conservative democrat.
Then things changed dramatically in the 50s and 60s.
Despite the political risks, LBJ pushed for civil rights legislation, angering southern conservatives along the way (dems and dixiecrats).
The result? Them racist southern voters flocked to the desperate GOP, which was in disarray after LBJ won the 1964 election in a landslide over the segregationist Republican Barry Goldwater.
Is it a coincidence that Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana and other southern states went republican for the first time since Reconstruction in the 1960s and have remained so? In 1964, Mississippi went from solidly democrat to 86% republican after just ONE election cycle! What the fukk happened? You'd think the Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with this sudden switch? The party of the hated Lincoln suddenly became popular among rednecks with confederate flags on their pickups...
The GOP stopped being the party of Lincoln in the 60s and became a Goldwater-Thurmond-Helms-Falwell-Nixon-Duke-Limbaugh-Reagan-Bush-Palin group. Why would any self-respecting black person associate with these bigots?
Do you honestly believe that men like Rockefeller, Everett Dirksen, Ike or even Teddy Roosevelt would still feel at home in the current GOP? This is the party of Jefferson Davis now, not Lincoln.
Also, it's so funny when republicans keep referring to MLK to obliquely criticize black people.
It's amazing how whitewashed MLK's image has become since his assassination. He delivered hundreds of radical speeches but the media always focuses on his most PG-rated one.
He was by far the most hated black man in America when he was alive. Conservatives absolutely DESPISED him when he was alive (especially William Buckley, Falwell, Reagan, Helms, Nixon and others)...They saw him as a dangerous communist, a troublemaker who eventually got what he deserved in 1968 (Reagan even implied that he had it coming).
They were enraged that his funeral was broadcast on all TV stations for 7.5 hours.
But now that he's sanctified (and safely dead) some conservatives even try to claim him
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
yeah, im not sure what you post had to do with mine.
And Bush was also the sitting president for 9/11 and an for 2 economic recessions and the dissolving of our civil liberties. He was worse than everyone thinks.
I don't disagree.
superunknown23
Superstar
Party #1: 55 percent white, 22 percent black, 18 percent Latino and 5 percent Asian.
Party #2: 92 percent white, 3 percent black, 4 percent Latino, <1 percent Asian.
America (2011 census): 62 percent white, 13 percent black, 18 percent Latino, 5 percent Asian.
Wow, I wonder which party is more representative of this country's demographics
It's funny how conservatives always ignore the fact that non-whites don't vote republican, regardless of economic status. They keep saying that people vote democratic because they want "handouts".
Yet, rich blacks, Latinos, Asians and Jews avoid their ass.
Besides, poor people rarely vote anyway. They always have the lowest participation rates in elections. It's the middle and upper-middle class folks who consistently vote.
Yeah, it's really shocking that minorities avoid a party that attracts the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Cliven Bundy, David Duke, Pat Buchanan and Ted Nugent.
Even the OG black republican got his nikka wake-up call
The GOP nominated Goldwater for president a month after he voted against the Civil Rights Act (and campaigned on it in the South).
The GOP black vote went from 33% for Nixon in 1960 to 4% for Goldwater in 1964 (but Goldwater became the first republican to carry MS, AL, SC, LA and GA since the Civil War). That's when they lost the black vote for good.
Party #2: 92 percent white, 3 percent black, 4 percent Latino, <1 percent Asian.
America (2011 census): 62 percent white, 13 percent black, 18 percent Latino, 5 percent Asian.
Wow, I wonder which party is more representative of this country's demographics
It's funny how conservatives always ignore the fact that non-whites don't vote republican, regardless of economic status. They keep saying that people vote democratic because they want "handouts".
Yet, rich blacks, Latinos, Asians and Jews avoid their ass.
Besides, poor people rarely vote anyway. They always have the lowest participation rates in elections. It's the middle and upper-middle class folks who consistently vote.
Yeah, it's really shocking that minorities avoid a party that attracts the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Cliven Bundy, David Duke, Pat Buchanan and Ted Nugent.
Even the OG black republican got his nikka wake-up call
The funny part is how some republicans are still trying to claim Jackie and MLK todayJackie Robinson and Nixon: Life and Death of a Political Friendship
Here in Yankee Stadium’s locker room after Game 5 of the 1952 World Series, Senator Richard Nixon of California, Republican nominee for vice president, congratulates Jackie Robinson on the Brooklyn Dodgers’ 6-5 win over the Yankees. (The Dodgers ultimately lost in seven games.)
In 1960, Robinson endorsed Nixon for president, declaring that the civil rights commitment of Nixon’s Democratic rival, John F. Kennedy, was “insincere.” In those times, an African-American Republican was by no means unusual. About 39 percent of black voters had supported the re-election of President Dwight Eisenhower and his vice president.
Then, in October 1960, Martin Luther King Jr. was jailed in Georgia on a trumped-up charge. Kennedy made a much-heralded telephone call to King’s wife, Coretta, which helped to get King released. Declining Robinson’s insistence that he intervene in the case, Nixon told him that Kennedy had opportunistically made “what our good friend Joe Louis called a ‘grandstand play.'”
Jackie withstood intense pressure — including from his wife, Rachel — to follow King’s father in switching from Nixon to Kennedy; he later wrote that his decision had “something to do with stubbornness.” As a result, a ballplayer who had withstood death threats in 1947 to break the major leagues’ color barrier was denounced as a “sellout” and “Uncle Tom.” That November, Nixon won only a third of the African-American vote, a crucial factor in his hairbreadth defeat.
Although Presidents Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson championed what became the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Robinson quit his executive job at Chock Full o’Nuts that spring to campaign for Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, a Republican, explaining that “we must work for a two-party system, as far as the Negro is concerned.”
But Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater, who opposed the 1964 legislation as unconstitutional. When Rockefeller denounced political extremism at the party’s San Francisco convention, Robinson, a “special delegate,” shouted, “C’mon, Rocky!” As Robinson recalled, an Alabama delegate “turned on me menacingly” before “his wife grabbed his arm and turned him back.”
Spoiling for a fight, Jackie cried, “Turn him loose, lady, turn him loose!” He later wrote with uncharacteristic overstatement that on leaving San Francisco, “I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler’s Germany.”
That fall, Robinson joined the 94 percent of the African-American electorate that backed President Johnson. (Since then, the percentage of the black vote for Democratic presidential nominees has never dipped below the low 80s.) In 1968, furious over Nixon’s courtship of Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who had once led the segregationist “Dixiecrats,” Jackie backed the Democratic nominee, Hubert Humphrey.
Jackie Robinson died of a heart attack at age 53, two weeks before the 1972 election. Although President Nixon’s civil rights record was considerably stronger (especially on public schools desegregation) than many understood, he was eager that year to carry the five Southern states that had supported George Wallace’s third-party candidacy in 1968; Nixon felt he had little chance to regain much of the African-American vote.
That March, Robinson, ailing and tired, complained to President Nixon by letter that he was “polarizing this country.” No longer the political optimist of his earlier years, he poignantly wrote his onetime friend, “I want so much to be a part of and to love this country as I once did.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/07/u...e-and-death-of-a-political-friendship.html?hp
The GOP nominated Goldwater for president a month after he voted against the Civil Rights Act (and campaigned on it in the South).
The GOP black vote went from 33% for Nixon in 1960 to 4% for Goldwater in 1964 (but Goldwater became the first republican to carry MS, AL, SC, LA and GA since the Civil War). That's when they lost the black vote for good.
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superunknown23
Superstar
As for the modern GOP's ultimate hero, Ronald Reagan...
This is the same guy who managed to triple the federal deficit in 8 years. He turned America from the world's biggest creditor in 1981 into the largest debtor nation in 1989.
Not to mention the Iran Contra shyt...
Black people didn't hate him by accident... He was a racist, plain and simple.*Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., which at the time was known for only one thing: the Ku Klux Klan murder of three civil rights workers. Reagan, using the code words of the day, said, "I believe in states rights." (just like George Wallace, Orval Faubus and other white southern politicians before him).
*Reagan was opposed to the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (a referendum on Jim Crow).
*He was also opposed to the Fair Housing Act, saying: "If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so"
*As president, he actually tried to weaken the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (he called it a great insult to the South)... But his former lawyer John Roberts is doing it now
*He tried to veto the Civil Rights Restoration Act passed by Congress to overturn a Supreme Court ruling (Grove City v. Bell) that limited the remedies available to the federal government when going after discrininatory private organizations that receive federal subsidies. The democratic-led Congress overrode his veto.
*He tried to get rid of the federal ban on tax exemptions for private schools that practiced racial discrimination (Bob Jones University). Congress blocked it again.
*In 1988, he opposed a bill to expand the reach of federal civil rights legislation. The democratic Congress overrode the veto.
*Reagan also opposed the imposition of sanctions on the apartheid regime in South Africa. The Democratic Congress overrode that veto, too.
After one of Reagan's pro-apartheid speeches, the normally mild-mannered Bishop Desmond Tutu said: "I found it quite nauseating. I think the West can go to hell! Your president is the pits as far as blacks are concerned. He sits there like the great, big white chief of old"
*He referenced to black women as "Cadillac-driving welfare queens" (nevermind that most welfare recipients are white).
*When MLK was murdered, he argued that he had it coming. Reagan said it was just the sort of "great tragedy that began when we began compromising with law and order, and people started choosing which laws they'd break."
*He opposed the MLK holiday: When John Conyers introduced the bill with the backing of the NAACP, Reagan vowed to veto it.
He only signed it after the democratic Congress passed the law with a veto-proof majority... 20 republican senators apposed it, along with 2 conservative southern democrats.
Reagan signed the law grudgingly, noting he did so because "Congress seemed bent on making it a national holiday" (yet, republicans try to give him credit for it today).
*He also held up funding for AIDS research for 3 years after it was initially called a "gay disease" by Jerry Falwell and the Christian right.
This is the same guy who managed to triple the federal deficit in 8 years. He turned America from the world's biggest creditor in 1981 into the largest debtor nation in 1989.
Not to mention the Iran Contra shyt...
the only hope
yeah i knew it: ur that typical libertarian
alwayz wanting to redefine dems & liberals
YET never being able to address/articulate ur beef with that party/policy's -same way u avoided my post
full of shyt !
BaldingSoHard
Banned
I blame Reagan for the recession more than Bush.
Obama has done as much to eliminate our rights as Bush did. Seems to be part of the President's job nowadays.
9/11... eh, yea that was a bad look.
