Stephen A. Smith catching hell on twitter right now from his own Colleague at ESPN

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I wish Stephen A would double down.

Walk in that exec room like:

"you know what these ratings would be like without me right"


"you know Fox Sports 1 is looking for talent right"


"you know who got connects with NBA players for the scoops right"

Yeah right. It would end up like this.

 

[feelosofer]

Stephen A really shot himself in the foot, this is why I don't respect him anymore, he is obsessed with keeping the paycheck that ESPN pays him. As a result he has to backtrack on any tangents he goes on that go against the grain. Whats worse is that he seems to be the go to Black guy when we deal with issues involving African Americans and sports, so we basically have a talking head asked to speak on 'our' issues who is no longer really one of us, especially as he comes from an almost apologist angle when it comes to these subjects. Unfortunately the only viable option is for him to backtrack, as the fans will for this white woman. He messed up bad with this one, he's just gotta swallow this bitter pill.

 

[winb83]

what is a c00n?if you were in his position would you take an L on this or be a real (jobless) nikka?

these are computer chair analysis talking about what some dude that likely makes hundreds of thousands a year on TV does. Smith can't go on TV and be real he has to "c00n" to an extent to have that job because the truth of the matter is you can't speak freely on TV.

a lot of these people calling Smith a c00n would take his same job and say his same stuff for his same pay but since they don't have that job its easy to criticize. the problem with Stephan A he he likes to get on TV every now and then and say something real like he did here and he should just not comment on certain things but yet he does.

I wouldn't have apologized to Beadle. she pulled a scumbag move. she effectively created this controversy with her response. real talk if i ran any media company it would be company policy that my on air personalities don't have twitter accounts. all twitter really does when it comes to celebs is expose idiots.

 

[mrken12]

Stephen A really shot himself in the foot, this is why I don't respect him anymore, he is obsessed with keeping the paycheck that ESPN pays him. As a result he has to backtrack on any tangents he goes on that go against the grain. Whats worse is that he seems to be the go to Black guy when we deal with issues involving African Americans and sports, so we basically have a talking head asked to speak on 'our' issues who is no longer really one of us, especially as he comes from an almost apologist angle when it comes to these subjects. Unfortunately the only viable option is for him to backtrack, as the fans will for this white woman. He messed up bad with this one, he's just gotta swallow this bitter pill.

He didn't really mess up though. It basically came down to her having a bad day and making SAS a target. This isn't the first time he's made these comments.

 

[Costanza]

these are computer chair analysis talking about what some dude that likely makes hundreds of thousands a year on TV does. Smith can't go on TV and be real he has to "c00n" to an extent to have that job because the truth of the matter is you can't speak freely on TV.

a lot of these people calling Smith a c00n would take his same job and say his same stuff for his same pay but since they don't have that job its easy to criticize. the problem with Stephan A he he likes to get on TV every now and then and say something real like he did here and he should just not comment on certain things but yet he does.

I wouldn't have apologized to Beadle. she pulled a scumbag move. she effectively created this controversy with her response. real talk if i ran any media company it would be company policy that my on air personalities don't have twitter accounts. all twitter really does when it comes to celebs is expose idiots.

you cant speak freely your right.

but there's a difference between tony kornheiser and michael wilbon...... and skip bayless and stephen a. smith...

And this issue wasnt created by Beadle, she jumped on it way after it caught fire on twitter... deadspin had an article up on it in a matter of minutes after he said it...

Your twitter point tho, makes sense... but I think as a society were past that point.

 

[Davin Black]

My problem with you, him or anybody else is a beating is now 1 lick? Its not like he Molly whopped her again and again. Even if you don't agree with that my point and most others are if she doesn't spit, put hands on him in the first place this situation doesn't happen. Telling people you should keep your hands to yourself isn't some "victim blaming" don't matter how others choose to twist the words.

I'm pretty sure you don't leave your door wide open even though people aren't supposed to be thieves right? Same stuff IMO. You're telling people things that can potentially stop or make it harder for something negative to happen and that's bad? Nah some just being crazy as usual so they can be on the "right" side of history.

The fukk? I have no clue how big his wife is, but average woman is 5'4" and 160 lbs. Feel free to imagine that you were that size and got "1 lick" from a 5' 8"/205 lb. man who is paid to stay standing/moving when other larger men run into him

But you're right, that's besides the point. If you can say that the situation wouldn't have happened if she'd kept her mouth shut, you can equally argue in favor of the situation being avoided if Rice hadn't hit her. He sure as shyt wasn't suspended because his wife said mean things to him.

Your door lock analogy is just wrong. Saying that his wife should've expected a violent response isn't that far removed from saying "all black men are violent."

Bruh, I don't think there's anyone in here that's suggesting it's ok to hit a woman under these circumstances. In this I agree that a man should never hit a woman when it's based on an argument, or even a slap.

But there's dudes on here stating extremes such as there's never a reason period to defend yourself as a man. This sort of logic is flawed and very short-sighted.

There's dudes on here who would disagree with YOUR idea of it being acceptable to hit a woman even in the case of your life being in danger

The dudes who would disagree with me and not act against a woman threatening their life have (a) never been in a fight, or (b) are dead, because they let a woman kill them.

I have no problem with this mentality if you're consistent with it and apply it to men as well. If a woman can't give you a reason to put hands on(which is different from beating btw) her outside of the kind of examples that you listed then you should feel the same about men too. In which case it's just easier to say "outside of threatening your life blah blah...there's nothing that anyone can do to justify putting your hands on them". Why it's so difficult for people with your mentality to just say that I don't know.

I do apply the same standard to men - especially if they're demonstrably weaker than I am. Just because I'm way more likely to hit a man than a woman doesn't mean I wouldn't be in the wrong if my response to some man's words were to hit him.

 

[Bilz]

He didnt say that at all. Just because someone is gettin beat on dont mean they aint partially responsible GTFOH

What he said was very open for interpretation, that's the problem. You're just assuming you know what he actually meant.

Of course it is possible that both parties in a scuffle could have responsibility. It's even possible that the one who got beat down was the aggressor in all of it. That's a different issue and has nothing to do with what he said though.

 

[philmonroe]

The fukk? I have no clue how big his wife is, but average woman is 5'4" and 160 lbs. Feel free to imagine that you were that size and got "1 lick" from a 5' 8"/205 lb. man who is paid to stay standing/moving when other larger men run into him

But you're right, that's besides the point. If you can say that the situation would've have happened if she'd kept her mouth shut, you can equally argue in favor of the situation being avoided if Rice hadn't hit her. He sure as shyt wasn't suspended because his wife said mean things to him.

Your door lock analogy is just wrong. Saying that his wife should've expected a violent response isn't that far removed from saying "all black men are violent."

The dudes who would disagree with me and not act against a woman threatening their life have (a) never been in a fight, or (b) are dead, because they let a woman kill them.

I do apply the same standard to men - especially if they're demonstrably weaker than I am. Just because I'm way more likely to hit a man than a woman doesn't mean I wouldn't be in the wrong if my response to some man's words were to hit him.

I didn't say it wouldn't have happened 100% I just said people except at times when they want to be stupid usually avoid doing things that can result in violence. When it comes to this situation folks getting all brand new with it. Also stop strawmanning ain't nobody said she should expect a violent response at all. Last the door lock analogy is perfect from my pov because the point in both cases is advice to minimize potential dire consequences period.

 

[Davin Black]

I didn't say it wouldn't have happened 100% I just said people except at times when they want to be stupid usually avoid doing things that can result in violence. When it comes to this situation folks getting all brand new with it. Also stop strawmanning ain't nobody said she should expect a violent response at all.

No one's acting brand new; I said early on that any man who feels like they want to smack the life outta some woman (or man) who gets in their face is 100% NORMAL. But if that person in your face is acting stupid (your words), then they're already beneath you - and this whole argument is essentially about someone in a position of power abusing that power against someone in a lower position.

Last the door lock analogy is perfect from my pov because the point in both cases is advice to minimize potential dire consequences period.

Whether the door is locked or unlocked is irrelevant when a bigger issue - in this case getting robbed - has been introduced. If you had left the door to your house unlocked and someone discovered it was unlocked yet didn't rob you, then yes - someone could justifiably lecture you about the risks of leaving your door unlocked.

But if it was unlocked and you were robbed, and you called the cops and explained what happened, would the response be exactly the same? Would they somehow penalize you for leaving your door unlocked? Would the robbers, if found, get a lighter punishment if they were to say "B-b-but officer he left his door unlocked and I needed a flat-screen so YOLO" ?

No. The person who robbed you would still get the maximum punishment, because that person was demonstrably wrong. Anyone with a scrap of sense knows that the door should've stayed locked, but literally the last thing you should say to a person who just got robbed is some condescending bullshyt about how they should've locked their door - especially if it wasn't a frequent occurrence.

 

[CACtain Planet]

these are computer chair analysis talking about what some dude that likely makes hundreds of thousands a year on TV does. Smith can't go on TV and be real he has to "c00n" to an extent to have that job because the truth of the matter is you can't speak freely on TV.

a lot of these people calling Smith a c00n would take his same job and say his same stuff for his same pay but since they don't have that job its easy to criticize. the problem with Stephan A he he likes to get on TV every now and then and say something real like he did here and he should just not comment on certain things but yet he does.

I wouldn't have apologized to Beadle. she pulled a scumbag move. she effectively created this controversy with her response. real talk if i ran any media company it would be company policy that my on air personalities don't have twitter accounts. all twitter really does when it comes to celebs is expose idiots.

most reasonable post in this thread

 

[CACtain Planet]

@MAKAVELI25 come out and play you bytch motherfukker

 

[JahBuhLun]

these are computer chair analysis talking about what some dude that likely makes hundreds of thousands a year on TV does. Smith can't go on TV and be real he has to "c00n" to an extent to have that job because the truth of the matter is you can't speak freely on TV.

a lot of these people calling Smith a c00n would take his same job and say his same stuff for his same pay but since they don't have that job its easy to criticize. the problem with Stephan A he he likes to get on TV every now and then and say something real like he did here and he should just not comment on certain things but yet he does.

I wouldn't have apologized to Beadle. she pulled a scumbag move. she effectively created this controversy with her response. real talk if i ran any media company it would be company policy that my on air personalities don't have twitter accounts. all twitter really does when it comes to celebs is expose idiots.

The bolded is correct, but the first 2 paragraphs demonstrate the tightrope that Black men have to walk on a day to day basis. It was fine and dandy when Smith was telling Black men to wear suits and that will end racism, while retelling a story about how he was in a suit and a white women clutched her purse while around him.

Had Smith prefaced his statement by applying the situation to only Black women, then there wouldn't have been such an uproar. But by him applying his statement as a blanket, across the board approach, he received the ire of white women.

They don't pay Smith to talk shyt on Black people, he just chooses to do that on his own because he's really the only one at ESPN that does it, Wilbon doesn't even go that hard against Black society. He attacked women and he fukked up, because even though he used logic in his reasoning, women don't use logic in debates, so all they hear is; "keep your mouth full of dikk and you wont be able to talk back and get beat the fukk down."

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The bolded is correct, but the first 2 paragraphs demonstrate the tightrope that Black men have to walk on a day to day basis. It was fine and dandy when Smith was telling Black men to wear suits and that will end racism, while retelling a story about how he was in a suit and a white women clutched her purse while around him.

Had Smith prefaced his statement by applying the situation to only Black women, then there wouldn't have been such an uproar. But by him applying his statement as a blanket, across the board approach, he received the ire of white women.

They don't pay Smith to talk shyt on Black people, he just chooses to do that on his own because he's really the only one at ESPN that does it, Wilbon doesn't even go that hard against Black society. He attacked women and he fukked up, because even though he used logic in his reasoning, women don't use logic in debates, so all they hear is; "keep your mouth full of dikk and you wont be able to talk back and get beat the fukk down."

what everyone forgets is this is a debate show... they can't be on there having 5 topics, and agreeing on them... then what's the point

they pick out the topics.. and each picks a side.. and they definitely know skip can't EVER go against blacks... so they have SAS do it... for about 6 figures a year

nikkas in here talking bout "oh if i was on there i'd say....." shut the fukk up... you'd say whatever espn told you to say, or you'd be out of a fukking job... ask SAS.. they already fired his ass once for speaking what he thought he could say

 

[Steezy]

the fact she told that nikka to #communicatebetter has me & at the same time

 

[pete clemenza]

Stephen A really shot himself in the foot, this is why I don't respect him anymore, he is obsessed with keeping the paycheck that ESPN pays him. As a result he has to backtrack on any tangents he goes on that go against the grain. Whats worse is that he seems to be the go to Black guy when we deal with issues involving African Americans and sports, so we basically have a talking head asked to speak on 'our' issues who is no longer really one of us, especially as he comes from an almost apologist angle when it comes to these subjects. Unfortunately the only viable option is for him to backtrack, as the fans will for this white woman. He messed up bad with this one, he's just gotta swallow this bitter pill.

I'm no SAS supporter at all but he has a hell of a gig breh. That's a dream job. Who wouldn't fight to keep that job?