Stephen A. Smith catching hell on twitter right now from his own Colleague at ESPN

[USSInsiders]

im going to be completely honest. i have been a victim of female on male DV. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR IT, and men have almost zero resources for dealing with it. My situation went to the point where i got hit in the head with a hammer and had to call the law.
before that, i had gotten beaten with a pipe and left unconcsious. as a man, i felt i had nowhere to turn to, i had my own real father making fun of me calling me al green. i slipped into a deep depression. finally i called the law after the aforementioned situation. she got counseling and a year probation.

so when i say that the provoked argument is bullshyt, its because there have been 100's of times that i have been provoked. and honestly if i had reacted violently, i might not still be going through that shyt. BUT, i know that if i hit her, i am not a man. thats why i say there is no excuse.

My man got piped n/h

Spoiler: :whoa:

Not trying to belittle your situation but I had to do it breh, sorry

 

[Tony D'Amato]

I hope Kellerman is on Sportsnation and this topic comes up. Kells is #HOH

 

[kingofnyc]

Im legit pissed. All this equal opportunity/equal rights sh1t, but a bish can do whatever they want to a dude and he has to take it How many district attorneys tryvnot to lock a n1gga up? Ray musta been provoked and his woman married him after getting her azz beat. That tells me she know she had it coming. She probably one of them hood bishes that respects him more after he touched that chin

What Stephen said was right. It needs to go both ways. Some men can be provoked, all men are not the same. Women need to realize that. I know some n1ggas that would send a bish to the er with the quickness if they get provoked(getting hit first, getting cheated on, get cursed out). Its dangerous to give these women the impression that they can do no wrong. All battered women are not doves. Some are and those situations are obviously different. The situation should matter.

Michelle Beadle needs a punch to the mouth and so does Stephen A after that weak azz sh1t. I didn't take him serious b4, so its hard to lose anymore respect for him, but I did

i had to watch this shyt after all this fukkery

we all pretty much ... agree/know ms rice attacked him in the elevator
and like tommy said -jay gets shytted on & laughed at like its a fukking joke for holding back while nikkaz who dont hold back get their careers taken away or locked up

 

[Easy-E]

He had no problem going in on other nikkas when they got in trouble @MVike28 is right. Only problem is that the person criticizing him is a fake who says low key things all the time


Let this be a lesson to SAS


And let me say how sad I am this has 1000 posts and counting...

That's not problem.

Take that old clip I posted; Stephen A. turned the actions of 6 men into a referendum on black men who play sports.

That racist idea that the actions of every black person reps all black people. You dehumanize ppl, went you do that, and it's an excuse not to get to know folk.

Plus, SAS comes off as a dude who ain't "down," but, plays the role to get ahead.

Twice this dude said "nikka" on air, denied it and blame the black community for him sayin' it--the last time he did it. He's a wolf in sheep clothes.

 

[Davin Black]

They're a bunch of snarky cacs, of course they're going to go against the media conglomerate that is ESPN. Their shtick is just as bad as ESPN. Only thing I like about them is they report shyt ESPN would never touch n/h

I like Deadspin better than most sport sites but yeah - they and their parent company Gawker are a different flavor of the same bullshyt. First and loudest ones to call out racism or discrimination in sports, yet only two black writers (four minorities total) on DS staff, plus no women or openly gay writers. The last female writer they had, now runs the feminist site Jezebel - a position that should've gone to the longtime (black) deputy editor.

So yeah - same bullshyt.

 

[the next guy]

That's not problem.

Take that old clip I posted; Stephen A. turned the actions of 6 men into a referendum on black men who play sports.

That racist idea that the actions of every black person reps all black people. You dehumanize ppl, went you do that, and it's an excuse not to get to know folk.

Plus, SAS comes off as a dude who ain't "down," but, plays the role to get ahead.

Twice this dude said "nikka" on air, denied it and blame the black community for him sayin' it--the last time he did it. He's a wolf in sheep clothes.

Of course, which is why I don't feel for him at all. He should be more careful and realize what he does and says.

 

[the next guy]

My man got piped n/h

Spoiler: :whoa:

Not trying to belittle your situation but I had to do it breh, sorry

you nasty!

 

[Gravity]

I'm not?

nikka I just did

Unless the woman has a weapon or is a trained fighter, something that 99% of women don't engage in because its considered masculine behavior, she has no chance against the average man.That's not anybody saying women are inferior because brute strength is not what anybody who knows the way the world works measures superiority/inferiority by. But when you are in a position of power you have the responsibility to not abuse it, that goes for men and women.

Now thats not always going to happen, cause plenty weak dudes are going to abuse that power and beat a broad's ass because they're easy targets. But when they do and get thrown in jail or shytted on publicly after, I'm having a hard time understanding how the fukk they have sympathizers. nikkas know the way the law works but want it to be one way when its the other way. I still bet they wouldn't be so easily 'provoked' to swing if it was a dude twice their size and strength talking that shyt too.

Saying something doesn't make it true. You're making a false equivalence. You're arguing against a straw man anyway because I haven't condoned a man abusing women. The point of contention here is whether women new any responsibility in getting into physical confrontations with men. My position is that women can sometimes be responsible for provoking physical altercations with men. Your positions seems to be that women bear no responsibility in getting into physical confrontations with men and it's all on men. I find that position extremely problematic for several reasons. Your position is unfair to men and women. You are painting women as inferior whether you admit to it or not. You hold men to a "you're never justified in putting your hands on a woman" while pretending as if women aren't capable of living up to that same standard. Again, you compared women with children in the sense that they shouldn't be expected to able to control themselves as well as men. Your whole "men have a physical advantage therefore should bear the responsibility of never getting physical with women" mentality is bullshyt. All adults should be held responsible for themselves. If a 6'3 290lb guy and a 5'10 165lb guy got into an disagreement that led to the 5'10 guy slapping the 6'3 guy would you fault the 6'3 guy for retaliating? People shouldn't be expected to take abuse from those smaller than them regardless of the sex/gender.

Stop with the straw man arguments and goal post moving. This isn't about condoning woman beaters or bullies. I wouldn't condone a man going around picking fights with women just because he has the physical advantage the same way that I wouldn't condone bigger men going around picking fights with smaller men. This is about acknowledging the reality that women do indeed provoke physical altercations with men at times. Perpetuating the idea that women should never bear any responsibility for actions that lead to physical altercations with men is problematic for both men and women. This gives women a false sense of unentitled security because not all men go for that bullshyt.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Saying something doesn't make it true. You're making a false equivalence. You're arguing against a straw man anyway because I haven't condoned a man abusing women. The point of contention here is whether women new any responsibility in getting into physical confrontations with men. My position is that women can sometimes be responsible for provoking physical altercations with men. Your positions seems to be that women bear no responsibility in getting into physical confrontations with men and it's all on men. I find that position extremely problematic for several reasons. Your position is unfair to men and women. You are painting women as inferior whether you admit to it or not. You hold men to a "you're never justified in putting your hands on a woman" while pretending as if women aren't capable of living up to that same standard. Again, you compared women with children in the sense that they shouldn't be expected to able to control themselves as well as men. Your whole "men have a physical advantage therefore should bear the responsibility of never getting physical with women" mentality is bullshyt. All adults should be held responsible for themselves. If a 6'3 290lb guy and a 5'10 165lb guy got into an disagreement that led to the 5'10 guy slapping the 6'3 guy would you fault the 6'3 guy for retaliating? People shouldn't be expected to take abuse from those smaller than them regardless of the sex/gender.

Stop with the straw man arguments and goal post moving. This isn't about condoning woman beaters or bullies. I wouldn't condone a man going around picking fights with women just because he has the physical advantage the same way that I wouldn't condone bigger men going around picking fights with smaller men. This is about acknowledging the reality that women do indeed provoke physical altercations with men at times. Perpetuating the idea that women should never bear any responsibility for actions that lead to physical altercations with men is problematic for both men and women. This gives women a false sense of unentitled security because not all men go for that bullshyt.

A woman's mouth shouldn't provoke a beat down. Do you agree? I don't think most have argued that if a woman puts her hands on a man then to expect what comes with it. But her mouth though?

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

My man got piped n/h

Spoiler: :whoa:

Not trying to belittle your situation but I had to do it breh, sorry

you nasty!

its all good, thankfully mentally i have found the strength to move past that shyt and while talking about it earlier rehashed some old, compartmentalized feelings, i aint tripping and i know no ill will is meant by it. that, and at the end of the day its just the internet.

 

[pickles]

Noone here is seeing the big picture. I will give you guys a hint.

1. Coach Dungy
2. Stephen A.

Think about it,
hint ( it not about domestic abuse)

 

[Gravity]

A woman's mouth shouldn't provoke a beat down. Do you agree? I don't think most have argued that if a woman puts her hands on a man then to expect what comes with it. But her mouth though?

That is what this all about though. The speculation is that the elevator video shows the woman striking Ray first which is why both were arrested the night of for simple assault. If that's not true and Rice just knocked the woman out for something she said then obviously I don't condone that. If she hit him first tho then yea she provoked getting herself knocked out.

I don't condone beating men women my man but I can't go with that "a man should never put hands on a woman" bullshyt either. I've seen and lived through too much to perpetuate that. Nobody Is above an asswhipping. Anybody can give you a reason to whip their ass. I don't condone men going around hitting women just for saying things that they don't like but we can't pretend that women never do things to provoke physical altercations with men. Can you admit that?

 

[NYC Rebel]

That is what this all about though. The speculation is that the elevator video shows the woman striking Ray first which is why both were arrested the night of for simple assault. If that's not true and Rice just knocked the woman out for something she said then obviously I don't condone that. If she hit him first tho then yea she provoked getting herself knocked out.

I don't condone beating men women my man but I can't go with that "a man should never put hands on a woman" bullshyt either. I've seen and lived through too much to perpetuate that. Nobody Is above an asswhipping. Anybody can give you a reason to whip their ass. I don't condone men going around hitting women just for saying things that they don't like but we can't pretend that women never do things to provoke physical altercations with men. Can you admit that?

You seem to continue skirting around what I specifically asked. I'm not asking what "this is about." I"m asking a specific question...so I'm going to ask you again.

A woman's mouth alone shouldn't provoke a beat down. Do you agree?

 

[Gravity]

You seem to continue skirting around what I specifically asked. I'm not asking what "this is about." I"m asking a specific question...so I'm going to ask you again.

A woman's mouth alone shouldn't provoke a beat down. Do you agree?

Your question is a deflection but I'll answer it anyway. It depends. It depends on what a "beat down" is and it depends on what exactly is coming out of her mouth.

No let me ask you a question that's back on topic. If Ray Rice's wife did in fact hit him first, do you think she is in anyway responsible for what happened?

All it takes is that scene in "He Got Game" with Denzel for a niqqas entire life to change.

Let's train our boys to know better and avoid it rather than looking for women to change. They are who they are. We are men....we run shyt...we have balls...lets act like it and direct our boys by telling them what to avoid.

a woman's biggest weapon is her mouth. At no point should her mouth allow you to put the beats on her.

You beat around the bush but you're basically saying that men are superior to women. Do you have the courage to directly admit that?

 

[Roid Jones]

SAS caught hell fire, I knew an apology was on the way. I have never understood why ESPN tries to enter issues such as race or domestic violence, when the talking heads are woefully unqualified to do so, keep it sports please