Stephen A Smith said Lebron is better than Bird about 15 months ago

[Standing on business]

If Lebron played in the 80s/90s, not to mention the east back then was bEASTly, his game would have been good but nothing more than a Larry Johnson/Anthony Mason hybrid.

negged for stupidity


illegal defense woulda been called 50 times a game trying to guard bron.
Bron is bigger than karl malone and quicker than damn near all the point guards back then but im supposed to believe he wouldnt dominate?

 

[Panther]

Bron bigger faster stronger than nikkas now...
If it was the 80 he would still mash on the league.... And he's already better than Bird

 

[FTBS]

They averaged like 120ppg in the 80s.

Just because you saw 4 or 5 Youtube clips of guys getting clotheslined doesn't mean that's how they were playing 24/7. Jesus christ I hope you were being sarcastic. A freak like LeBron would light the 80's up and have every record known to the league.

Lebron in up and down league with no zone? nikkas would really say he was stat padding .

ass nikkas in 1985 if Bron somehow magically got transported back there: Yeah that nikka nice now but he wouldn't be shyt 30 years in the future in a slower game, with zones and 24 hour media coverage and social media.

you're making the same fallacy everyone else does, that LeBron would be the same person mentally if he grew up in the late 70s/early 80s. You gotta remember this was during the Iran Hostage Crisis and then Reagan's Reign of Alzheimer's Terror and the days before high speed internet. Completely different world, we would all be completely different people in another era.

This. It's the same thing nikkas do with Russell and Chamberlain. You put an ATG in a different era he's gonna adapt and take advantage of the benefits of said era. Russell and Chamberlain with modern nutrition, training, and medicine would be bigger, stronger, and faster and dominate this era. Bron in the 80s would have been still been a physical freak with a great IQ.

 

[King Poetic]

case closed

 

[Reggie]

It's not a fallacy to say that Bron is better then Bird. Other then rebounding I think he beats Bird in all other relevant averages and he has more MVP's then him and one less title. Taking nothing away from Bird who is a legend and will always be cemented as an all time great. But after 12 years and more games and minutes played can't we say the same thing about Bron now.

 

[Ceazy]

I don't understand how people think LeBron is better than larry bird like seriously if this year didn't prove it or the finals against the mavs then idk what will. The east is so soft and he just keep jumping around to try to make the best team possible I cant run with that. Wade in his prime was carrying duke and you telling me the guy whose better than larry legend was getting shut down by

couldn't score in the 4th quarter of the finals how we dismissing that .Then lets not talk about him getting ran out the gym in his prime vs the spurs. All that athlete ish I get Lebron is probably the greatest athlete in not NBA history but maybe sports so of course he gets the nod. As a pure basketball player Im taking larry legend. Shooting vision defense savy clutch all in the playoffs and if we talking stats Bird had better stats at 30 then LBJ

 

[god shamgod]

80's were overrated I don't know why people gas that wakk ass era.Lebron woulda dominated in the 80's

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Wait cats really think Bird is better than Lebron? Jesus fkin christ the coli sometimes.

 

[Kings County]

He' would retire after getting close lined with his one trick head down attacking rim.

jordan came into the league getting punked by them nikkas to dont forget he had to change

 

[Propaganda]

Close to me.

Bird ain't never not show up in the playoffs lebron flat out is the reason dirk got a ring.


Bird is a better scorer but Bron is better all around. :ghhghghg:

uhh...bird had plenty of bad series in the playoffs.

a lot of you guys have literally no idea what you're talking about. you just run with the nostalgic old clown narrative about the 80s and it got y'all acting like it was some war zone filled with the most intimidating, unyielding, unbreakable, battle-hardened warriors the world ever saw every night out there on the court.

then you add the other stupid narrative about bron being some soft lame that can't handle contact...completely ignoring the fact that guys have been getting physical with him and bodying him hard in the paint his whole career and he's always kept coming back for more. yeah, lebron james, the guy y'all also claim doesn't do anything but bullrush to the rim...is the same that soft lame who can't take a hit. oochie wally or one mic?

he'd have the size, strength and athleticism to thrive in the up-and-down "fight-to-the-death" 80's. he (just like the other greats) would do fine in any era, really.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

uhh...bird had plenty of bad series in the playoffs.

a lot of you guys have literally no idea what you're talking about. you just run with the nostalgic old clown narrative about the 80s and it got y'all acting like it was some war zone filled with the most intimidating, unyielding, unbreakable, battle-hardened warriors the world ever saw every night out there on the court.

then you add the other stupid narrative about bron being some soft lame that can't handle contact...completely ignoring the fact that guys have been getting physical with him and bodying him hard in the paint his whole career and he's always kept coming back for more. yeah, lebron james, the guy y'all also claim doesn't do anything but bullrush to the rim...is the same that soft lame who can't take a hit. oochie wally or one mic?

he'd have the size, strength and athleticism to thrive in the up-and-down "fight-to-the-death" 80's. he (just like the other greats) would do fine in any era, really.

He is the sole reason his team lost the finals which year?

 

[Coli Hoecomb]

uhh...bird had plenty of bad series in the playoffs.

a lot of you guys have literally no idea what you're talking about. you just run with the nostalgic old clown narrative about the 80s and it got y'all acting like it was some war zone filled with the most intimidating, unyielding, unbreakable, battle-hardened warriors the world ever saw every night out there on the court.

then you add the other stupid narrative about bron being some soft lame that can't handle contact...completely ignoring the fact that guys have been getting physical with him and bodying him hard in the paint his whole career and he's always kept coming back for more. yeah, lebron james, the guy y'all also claim doesn't do anything but bullrush to the rim...is the same that soft lame who can't take a hit. oochie wally or one mic?

he'd have the size, strength and athleticism to thrive in the up-and-down "fight-to-the-death" 80's. he (just like the other greats) would do fine in any era, really.

Maybe you're right but I don't think Bron has that 80's mental toughness but he would be the most impressive athlete by far. His can't beat em/join em attitude exhibits a mental weakness when faced with adversity. He's constantly the biggest /most physical guy on court but always flopping. the hand checking physical nature of the rules back then may or may not work in his favor but comparing across generations so far apart is all conjecture and debate anyway so. Bron could very well have a couple rings in the 80's as he has now but who knows?

The reality is that he's a Ray Allen 3 pointer away from being 1-5 in the finals

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Brehs are forgetting the pace they played at during the 80s.

The Celtics were one of the slowest teams in the league and still were at 98.6. The Cavs were one of the slowest and were at 92.6.

LeBron averaged 30/11/8.5 these playoffs while having his worst shooting in years.

In 1987 he would have averaged 32/12/9 playing at the Celtics pace .

That's while playing with a new team/new coach.

Compare LeBron and Bird at 29 when they on championship mode squads.

The Celtics pace was at 101.2

The Heat were at 91.2

LeBron in the 80s would have averaged 30/8/7 with excellent efficiency on a team with great chemistry.

Bird at 29 averaged 26/10/7. Great, but LeBron's slightly better.

 

[bigillwill06]

do some of yall watch basketball? Lebron gets hammered all the time driving to the lane.

 

[ajnapoleon]

Nah

do some of yall watch basketball? Lebron gets hammered all the time driving to the lane.

Nah they don't for some reason the say he soft but get mad and wonder why he bull rushes the basket...... And when he gets hit he never fights because why should he be stupid and get kicked out..... What really is funny is they say he left when the going gets tough .... Maybe just maybe he seen the FO as people he knew could not get it done and he would have to carry that team with no other player that create Their own shot.... Yeah that's a great way to win a chip.... And sit there and look at the celtics load up and he looking at mo Williams and Kevin durant have Westbrook harden and serge .... If he stayed he would have been a could have been .... To bad lakers and celtics never drafted him and got to sit on the bench for a couple of years and loaded up on players