Stephen Jackson Calls Out AB For His Comments on Shannon

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People obviously don't understand the difference between minstrel and c00n which AB never called Shannon
 

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I don’t know how nikkas in here co-signing somebody portraying something they ain’t for the entertainment of others. Literally definitely of a clown / actor.

If that was what sharpe did then there wouldn’t be an issue with the shyt but that’s fake as hell and cringeworthy from 50 year old man to be doin what you think others would like to see you do, that you don’t even believe in, just for shyts and giggles. If bein yourself ain’t good enough at that stage in your life with the amount of success you had then :hubie:
 

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I don’t know how nikkas in here co-signing somebody portraying something they ain’t for the entertainment of others. Literally definitely of a clown / actor.

If that was what sharpe did then there wouldn’t be an issue with the shyt but that’s fake as hell and cringeworthy from 50 year old man to be doin what you think others would like to see you do, that you don’t even believe in, just for shyts and giggles. If bein yourself ain’t good enough at that stage in your life with the amount of success you had then :hubie:
That's why I barely watch these shows, they all gimmicks
 

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I don’t know how nikkas in here co-signing somebody portraying something they ain’t for the entertainment of others. Literally definitely of a clown / actor.

If that was what sharpe did then there wouldn’t be an issue with the shyt but that’s fake as hell and cringeworthy from 50 year old man to be doin what you think others would like to see you do, that you don’t even believe in, just for shyts and giggles. If bein yourself ain’t good enough at that stage in your life with the amount of success you had then :hubie:
:snoop:I’d really like to see you nikkas interact in real life. This can’t be real :mindblown:
 

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That was different. For one that shyt wasn’t even funny. 2 wtf you know be kickin it with the homies and wear a fried chicken helmet as any type of joke/shyt talk? Reachhhhhhhhhh that Hennessy/black thing is something I’d do to rub in a W in spades or something. Y’all nikkas man
Clearly different levels of cloning but what person pulls out blacks and henny at work? Even if Shannon was white that would make him look like an idiot. And when you're black making yourself look like an idiot to the laughs of a majority white audience, that equals c00ning to me. Jerry's was worse but it's in the same vein to me:manny:
 

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Yea, I'M upset the same guy that does this.



Jerry Rice says 'All Lives Matter,' Kaepernick should 'respect the flag'

Meanwhile, while Dez Bryant was talking "responsbility" during the height of the kneeling and police shootings;



No eye bucking, no hen, no Club Shay Shay

My father taught me that you play after you work

Shannon can be as goofy as he wants because he does the work

Again, ya'll too worried about white people's eyes

You see I'm saying even without Jerry's comments that video wouldn't have been a good look. Are you saying if Jerry never made that all lives matters comment youd have no problem with that commercial:dahell:? I'm pretty sure that commercial outdates his Kap comments and even when it first came out people were disgusted. And the reason why is because it's flagrantly perpetuating a silly stereotype for laughs and giggles.
 
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c00ning is denigrating your race for acceptance by the majority right?
How does this definition apply to folks that aren't in the media and don't share their business on social media?


You are trying to say there is a difference between c00ning for a check and just naturally being a c00n.

I disagree, you are a c00n whether you do it for a check or if you do it for free. In my opinion, even worse if you know what you are doing is wrong but are doing it for a check.

I see no seperation with Shannon, to me the act that Shannon portrays is that he is about pro Black power, when in reality when its time to step up and speak out when it cost something he is quiet as a church mouse, again look at Romanowski, look at Lavar Ball - Leahy situation.

AB is a stereotypical out of touch athlete, but I've yet to see him publicly denigrate the black race, rather than just being a delusional egomaniac.

Save all the distinction without a difference with sleeping with white people and having children with white folks for someone who believes in that non-sense. If you will sleep with a white woman its no different than having a kid with one. to me, the rest is just trying to justify why its okay to sleep with one without taking a hit from groups who are anti race mixing.

Talking about money is just talking about money, typically if it has nothing to do with race it isn't c00ning. But again if you want to bring it up and say it is c00ning, Shannon does the same thing as AB. So again keep your standard consistant.
What is the stereotype of Hennessy and Backwoods? What's different when a non-Black person use it as props?

I'm not trying to say nothing, I've given you clear and precise meanings and standards so that I'm held accountable to not recklessly apply judgement based on my human flaws(insecurity/discomfort/ego etc)
You're using generic and loosely defined words so that you could reach/equate/categorize as the same, anything at your leisure. I tried warning you that this tactic wasn't going to work, using "mix with whites" allows you to call any Black person with white friends a koon, which is silly and self-serving

For instance,
-you're still trying to equate a Shannon's twitter response about money, with no context, to AB wealth signalling arrivals to training camp
-remove race from the conversation, fawking and breeding are different, add race, now they are the same

You talmbowt Shannon not speaking despite the various videos, so again this isn't about facts, it's about you and your human flaws
Speaking on Black issues doesn't make you a "pro-Black power," cause you wouldn't categorize Tim Wise as that, so why do that with Shannon?
I never/would never call Shannon pro-Black because there are distinct meanings/goals for being "woke," Black advocate, and pro-Black lifer
 

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How does this definition apply to folks that aren't in the media and don't share their business on social media?

How does it not apply?
People have been c00ning for acceptance , who aren't fameous or in the media since black folks have been in this country.
Your added criteria that it needs to be in the media, makes no sense to me, because historically that has never mattered.
You can c00n in private or in public, if the goal is to denigrate the race for majority acceptance is c00ning non the less.

What is the stereotype of Hennessy and Backwoods? What's different when a non-Black person use it as props?

I'm not trying to say nothing, I've given you clear and precise meanings and standards so that I'm held accountable to not recklessly apply judgement based on my human flaws(insecurity/discomfort/ego etc)
You're using generic and loosely defined words so that you could reach/equate/categorize as the same, anything at your leisure. I tried warning you that this tactic wasn't going to work, using "mix with whites" allows you to call any Black person with white friends a koon, which is silly and self-serving

For instance,
-you're still trying to equate a Shannon's twitter response about money, with no context, to AB wealth signalling arrivals to training camp
-remove race from the conversation, fawking and breeding are different, add race, now they are the same

You talmbowt Shannon not speaking despite the various videos, so again this isn't about facts, it's about you and your human flaws
Speaking on Black issues doesn't make you a "pro-Black power," cause you wouldn't categorize Tim Wise as that, so why do that with Shannon?
I never/would never call Shannon pro-Black because there are distinct meanings/goals for being "woke," Black advocate, and pro-Black lifer
I've said the same thing about Shannon repeatedly.
If he really smoked blunts and drank I wouldn't call it c00ning, he would just be himself.
But he doesn't do that personally, he doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, so his need to portray himself as a "character" that does so signifies he is sending a signal to people for a reason and I disagree with that and I think its c00ning.

I have used your standards, I literally stopped saying mixing with whites and specifically said sleeping with whites, to be exact for your benefit so there would be no confusion.

What is wrong with AB showing up to training camp in extravagant fashion. How is that degrading to the race of black people? How is that acting outside of himself?
You talk flashing money, yet you want to say I"m taking Shannon out of context when he literally calls people who disagree with him broke on twitter, but AB is wrong for spending his money on him self and not calling someone broke? Logically that is inconsistant breh.

I don't think Tim Wise speaks on black issues, I think he and other whites speak on how to code white talk. To better hide from blacks their intentions.

As for Shannon, he likes to put himself out there politically as speaking truth to power and being the black voice on Skip's show, you take that banner you need to ride with it all the way. If not get ready for when people call you out for not holding position.
 
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How does it not apply?
People have been c00ning for acceptance , who aren't fameous or in the media since black folks have been in this country.
Your added criteria that it needs to be in the media, makes no sense to me, because historically that has never mattered.
You can c00n in private or in public, if the goal is to denigrate the race for majority acceptance is c00ning non the less.
To learn how does your definition apply to non-media/non-public behavior that has nothing to do with wanting white acceptance, but is still denigrating


I've said the same thing about Shannon repeatedly.
If he really smoked blunts and drank I wouldn't call it c00ning, he would just be himself.
But he doesn't do that personally, he doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, so his need to portray himself as a "character" that does so signifies he is sending a signal to people for a reason and I disagree with that and I think its c00ning.

I have used your standards, I literally stopped saying mixing with whites and specifically said sleeping with whites, to be exact for your benefit so there would be no confusion.

What is wrong with AB showing up to training camp in extravagant fashion. How is that degrading to the race of black people? How is that acting outside of himself?
You talk flashing money, yet you want to say I"m taking Shannon out of context when he literally calls people who disagree with him broke on twitter, but AB is wrong for spending his money on him self and not calling someone broke? Logically that is inconsistant breh.

I don't think Tim Wise speaks on black issues, I think he and other whites speak on how to code white talk. To better hide from blacks their intentions.

As for Shannon, he likes to put himself out there politically as speaking truth to power and being the black voice on Skip's show, you take that banner you need to ride with it all the way. If not get ready for when people call you out for not holding position.

Like Kevin Hart's Oscars fiasco should remind us, there needs to be freedom of speech/creative freedom when dealing with media folks. Why is it that Shannon cannot play a character, whose authenticity wouldn't matter to you, if another actor/media personality portrayed it? because since there's no Henny and Blackwoods stereotype, you feel a certain way about what non-Blacks may think

a human fawking is different than a human breeding, with or without race context

AB, who is calling someone a koon, arrivals to training camp, compliments the other check marks for the Black professional athlete stereotypes
Again, contextless twitter exchanges aren't the same, especially when Shannon isn't calling anyone a koon and his other actions don't compliment the check marks for the Black professional athlete stereotypes

smh. So now speaking about "coded white talk" isn't speaking about systemic racism, a Black issue? You're arguing just to argue. The point is that Shannon speaking on Black issues OR "putting himself out there" doesn't mean he's "pro-Black power."
The fact that you're trying to use these efforts against him to equate it with AB, further proves this is all about you
 

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To learn how does your definition apply to non-media/non-public behavior that has nothing to do with wanting white acceptance, but is still denigrating

c00ning can be personal benefit, you can be a co-worker who will point out faults and vilify your same race co-workers to "get ahead" or atleast make sure others don't pass you up, for example. That is c00ning. That is probably the most common form of c00ning most blacks have, other blacks in the workforce sabotaging the rest of us.

Like Kevin Hart's Oscars fiasco should remind us, there needs to be freedom of speech/creative freedom when dealing with media folks. Why is it that Shannon cannot play a character, whose authenticity wouldn't matter to you, if another actor/media personality portrayed it? because since there's no Henny and Blackwoods stereotype, you feel a certain way about what non-Blacks may think

a human fawking is different than a human breeding, with or without race context

AB, who is calling someone a koon, arrivals to training camp, compliments the other check marks for the Black professional athlete stereotypes
Again, contextless twitter exchanges aren't the same, especially when Shannon isn't calling anyone a koon and his other actions don't compliment the check marks for the Black professional athlete stereotypes

smh. So now speaking about "coded white talk" isn't speaking about systemic racism, a Black issue? You're arguing just to argue. The point is that Shannon speaking on Black issues OR "putting himself out there" doesn't mean he's "pro-Black power."
The fact that you're trying to use these efforts against him to equate it with AB, further proves this is all about you
Kevin Hart and the oscars is a losing battle of a failed ideology.
fukk the oscars, they mean nothing but what c00ns put into it.
The 60s notion of white acceptance should have hit the dead end it was destined for with the presidency of Barack Obama.

As for Shannon and the blunts and liqour, again my point is why portray yourself in a manner that you proudly do not live by because he himself views it as a negative. Thats why I don't understand why it should be acceptable, he doesn't even endorse the way of living he is portraying, so to me the question becomes why is he doing this.

I disagree with you regarding fukking and having children, no difference at all in my opinion, but thats my moral view and if you have a different one, we probably aren't going to agree.

I don't care about athlete stereotypes, Deion came to college training camp in limos, that isn't c00ning, just like when the latin baseball players were showing up in different exotic cars. Calling actions you disagree with c00ning makes no mistake. Trying to assign typical narcassitic arrogant athlete behavior to black behavior is also incorrect.

That said again, I've yet to see AB denigrate black americans or play into negative stereotypes of black americans, like Shannon is doing.
 
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