Steph's 3 point shooting VS Russ triple doubles - Which impresses you more?

[KillerB88]

I'm sorry. I should have emphasized that he CAN'T do it. When Bron averaged a near 3D in the 2015 Finals his splits were terrible. 39/31/68. And he had to play 45 minutes a game to do it.

I'm glad as hell Bron didn't do what Westbrook did.

If LeBron spent a season pulling the shyt that Westbrook pulls he would deserve all the criticism he gets and far more. And likely end up with the same ass results. You really think Bron (or Bron fans) would choose rebound-hunting and 1st-round exits over annual trips to the Finals?

Correlation is not causation.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What does throwing KD in there mean? Is that supposed to diminish Russ? After Russ was mauled by Pat Bev did KD drag that team to the WCF or something? No. They lost in 5 to the Grizz after Tony Allen locked KDs ass up all series.

If you're trying to compare a guy to GOATs, then bragging about reaching WCFs when one of the actual GOATs was leading the team seems like poor praise.

After Russ got hurt that year, KD still finished off the Rockets with some great games and then won a WCSF game against the Grizzlies. Both accomplishments that Russ has never managed as the #1 at any time in his entire career even when he had better rosters than that one.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm sorry. I should have emphasized that he CAN'T do it. When Bron averaged a 3D in the Finals his splits were terrible. 39/31/68. And he had to play 45 minutes a game to do it.

What the fukk does a triple-double have to do with shooting splits?

The best part is that your dumb ass is wrong, when Bron averaged a triple-double in the Finals his splits were an impressive 56/39/66, far better than anything Russ has ever done in any season or postseason. So whatever stupid point you were making just got destroyed.




Last year Bron was 2 rebounds/game away from averaging a triple-double for the season. If he forced his bigs to give him 2-3 extra freebounds a game like Russ does he easily good have averaged it. AD/Dwight/McGee had tons of rebounds last year and easily could have let Bron grab a few of them. Do you seriously doubt that?

 

[KillerB88]

If you're trying to compare a guy to GOATs, then bragging about reaching WCFs when one of the actual GOATs was leading the team seems like poor praise.

After Russ got hurt that year, KD still finished off the Rockets with some great games and then won a WCSF game against the Grizzlies. Both accomplishments that Russ has never managed as the #1 at any time in his entire career even when he had better rosters than that one.

Russ has not had better rosters than what he had when he was playing with KD. And in the game that the Rockets won in the WCSF against the eventual champion Lakers, Russ was the best player that game. The Grizz are a tough out, but it's not like KD snatched a win against a contender.
Rockets vs. Lakers - Box Score - September 4, 2020 - ESPN

 

[KillerB88]

What the fukk does a triple-double have to do with shooting splits?

The best part is that your dumb ass is wrong, when Bron averaged a triple-double in the Finals his splits were an impressive 56/39/66, far better than anything Russ has ever done in any season or postseason. So whatever stupid point you were making just got destroyed.




Last year Bron was 2 rebounds/game away from averaging a triple-double for the season. If he forced his bigs to give him 2-3 extra freebounds a game like Russ does he easily good have averaged it. AD/Dwight/McGee had tons of rebounds last year and easily could have let Bron grab a few of them. Do you seriously doubt that?

I edited my comment. I was referring to his near 3D in 2015. Yes, when he had a healthy team he was more efficient. I was pointing out that when trying to really push and having to carry a team-- his splits were nothing special.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Russ has not had better rosters than what he had when he was playing with KD.

Westbrook
PG13
Carmelo
Brewer
Adams

With Jeremi Grant, Felton, Patterson off the bench.

THAT is a better roster than what KD had after Westbrook got hurt in 2013. And Westbrook couldn't even push Gobert and a 21yo Donovan Mitchell to 7.

I edited my comment. I was referring to his near 3D in 2015. Yes, when he had a healthy team he was more efficient. I was pointing out that when trying to really push and having to carry a team-- his splits were nothing special.

So Bron with an absolute shyt team and dealing with back issues all year beat the 51-win Bulls, beat the 60-win Hawks, took the 67-win Warriors to 6 while averaging 35-13-9 with TT and Shump as his top minutes guys and Delly #2 in shots in the starting lineup....and you're saying that proves he couldn't average a triple-double because.....wait for it....his shooting splits were poor.

You missed that Bron's shooting splits that Finals while playing with a bad back and being loaded up on by the best defense in the league were basically the same as what Russ gets in EVERY PLAYOFFS.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

@FAH1223 was on point when he said that Westbrook stans are something else.


They've totally deluded themselves into thinking that when Westbrook coasts on defense all game, floats to the basket waiting for rebounds no matter where his man is standing, and makes his bigs box out for him so he can reach 10, its because he has to work so hard to "carry the team".

 

[Mindfield333]

You're mistaking correlation for causation.

Triple doubles don't translate into wins, in any fashion, for anyone.

Since Westbrook is a ball-dominant guard, his teammates are going to get scoring opportunities off his passes (that's the main source of offense), so it only makes sense if he's getting a high amount of assists that his team his going to be a greater position of winning (because they're making shots), as opposed to if his team isn't scoring off his passes, which leads to low assists, they're going to be in a worse position of winning. But there's another part to this: just because a player accumulates a high amount of points, assists and rebounds doesn't that they're putting their team in the best position of winning. Far too often folks think that because x-player has a game with a tally of 18 points, 12 assists and 12 rebounds that they played well, or that they were the main reason their team won the game, or that they're not to blame if their team lost.

And there's another part too: assists aren't the only way you can create scoring opportunities for your teammates; assists are only what is essentially the last pass, and they're not even based on setting your teammate up to score. It's simply a pass before a basket is scored, in black and white.

Same goes for rebounds.

Westbrook grabbing an uncontested rebound off a missed shot doesn't translate into winning. His teammate that exhausted himself for half the shot-clock defending the primary ball-handler and forcing him into a tough shot does translate into winning, yet it's not reflected in the box score stats.

You gotta argue with statstics not me. You didn’t really refute the win percentage.

Why are you talking about rings when I'm talking about him going 5 years since the last time he won more than 2 games in a playoff series?

because rings ultimately matters the most when you’re talking about playoff success. If you didn’t win ultimately you lost... that’s what the new nba era is all about and that’s why these players are teaming up

 

[KillerB88]

Westbrook
PG13
Carmelo
Brewer
Adams

With Jeremi Grant, Felton, Patterson off the bench.

THAT is a better roster than what KD had after Westbrook got hurt in 2013. And Westbrook couldn't even push Gobert and a 21yo Donovan Mitchell to 7.





So Bron with an absolute shyt team and dealing with back issues all year beat the 51-win Bulls, beat the 60-win Hawks, took the 67-win Warriors to 6 while averaging 35-13-9 with TT and Shump as his top minutes guys and Delly #2 in shots in the starting lineup....and you're saying that proves he couldn't average a triple-double because.....wait for it....his shooting splits were poor.

You missed that Bron's shooting splits that Finals while playing with a bad back and being loaded up on by the best defense in the league were basically the same as what Russ gets in EVERY PLAYOFFS.

PG13 has been a chronic playoff underperformer. Or did you forget that Kawhi has failed to win with him. Melo? Really? Even Bron wasn't willing to give Melo a job on his team. The Thunder were beating the Jazz when Carmelo was off the floor. We also can't forget they lost their best perimeter defender in Andre Roberson. Corey Brewer? Stop it. And for some strange reason, despite no longer having to tolerate Russ stealing his rebounds, Adams didn't increase his rebounding average after Russ was traded.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Russ wins 75% of the time when he gets a triple dub. It does have impact

Draymond won 97% of the time when he gets a triple double

 

[Mindfield333]

With a talented team he went to 4WCFs and a Finals. And those teams all had trash spacing to boot. CP3 has had 6 first round exits. Russ has sent him home twice in the playoffs.

Theres a couple of otherwise good posters who are in here posting garbage because they are blinded by their hate for Russ. It’s sad to see. Russ isn’t perfect by no means and it’s cool to critique any player but post KD he really hadn’t help on that level. PG13 just ain’t it to me. Dope player during the season tho.

 

[ISO]

I'm sorry. I should have emphasized that he CAN'T do it. When Bron averaged a near 3D in the 2015 Finals his splits were terrible. 39/31/68. And he had to play 45 minutes a game to do it.

Correlation is not causation.

His splits weren’t terrible if taken under proper context.

Just based off the fact you rounded his stats down I know you a hater. He did 40/31/69.

 

[KillerB88]

His splits weren’t terrible if taken under proper context.

Just based off the fact you rounded his stats down I know you a hater. He did 40/31/69.

I'm a huge Bron fan. I dropped 4K on tickets just to see his debut game at Staples.

 

[010101]

Brodie is a prolific stat padder y’all nikkas are funny

you know when Brodie was that dude? When he wasn’t focused on stat Paddington and actually getting results hence why they went to the finals against Miami

not even talking about the triple dubs so much

or the wins & losses

talking about level of intensity for a whole season

playing through wear & tear bouncing back from injury

brodie.sabotage be on some nut shyte

but it's impressive because nobody else is psychotic enough to even attempt it

anybody else try & play like brodie they'd put themselves in a coffin ha

Bro it’s not difficult when you lining up at the foul line as guard camping for rebounds come on man shyt is sus

ha you chatting talking about it's not difficult*

 

[Pimp]

Westbrook
PG13
Carmelo
Brewer
Adams

With Jeremi Grant, Felton, Patterson off the bench.

THAT is a better roster than what KD had after Westbrook got hurt in 2013. And Westbrook couldn't even push Gobert and a 21yo Donovan Mitchell to 7.





So Bron with an absolute shyt team and dealing with back issues all year beat the 51-win Bulls, beat the 60-win Hawks, took the 67-win Warriors to 6 while averaging 35-13-9 with TT and Shump as his top minutes guys and Delly #2 in shots in the starting lineup....and you're saying that proves he couldn't average a triple-double because.....wait for it....his shooting splits were poor.

You missed that Bron's shooting splits that Finals while playing with a bad back and being loaded up on by the best defense in the league were basically the same as what Russ gets in EVERY PLAYOFFS.

That Utah team has the best record in the league right now. Terrible example.