Amor fati
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Apparently, it's hard to get heat because there are no real heels, there are more tweeners.
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Apparently, it's hard to get heat because there are no real heels, there are more tweeners.
because most people or it seems like WWE abides by the rule of as long as they're reacting in any way shape or form its 
Jmare007
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I read somewhere else that nowadays fans treat wrestlers they perceive as bad in ring performers like heels and nothing else matters. On the other hand, wrestlers perceived as great or very good in the ring are cheered and treated like faces no matter what. Character work means very little and no matter how people are booked, the heel/face dynamic is mostly dependent on perceived wrestling ability 
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Amor fati
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I read somewhere else that nowadays that fans treat wrestlers they perceive as bad in ring performers like heels and nothing else matters. On the other hand, wrestlers perceived as great or very good in the ring are cheered and treated like faces no matter what. Character work means very little and no matter how people are booked, the heel/face dynamic is mostly dependent on perceived wrestling ability
You are spot on it seems that way Jinder is a good example of this he's a heel but his ring work is below average if you ask me.
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So the guy that used to wrestle in a superhero cape and mask has an opinion on what's wrong with wrestling?
Ok...
Nah, KO consistently gets heat. Neville gets when paired in something worthy.I read somewhere else that nowadays fans treat wrestlers they perceive as bad in ring performers like heels and nothing else matters. On the other hand, wrestlers perceived as great or very good in the ring are cheered and treated like faces no matter what. Character work means very little and no matter how people are booked, the heel/face dynamic is mostly dependent on perceived wrestling ability
It's that whole 50/50 "wins and losses don't matter" bullshyt imo. That rule certainly doesn't apply when it comes to certain guys they want to make sure get/stay over.
There isn't because they don't let heels be true heels.
Have someone feud with Cena by insulting make a wish and cancer kids, ripping up signs and insulting every single city they're in... you think he'll be a tweener then?
Have someone feud with Cena by insulting make a wish and cancer kids, ripping up signs and insulting every single city they're in... you think he'll be a tweener then?
unfortunately people legit complain about their sign being ripped and then WWE apologizes for itThere isn't because they don't let heels be true heels.
Have someone feud with Cena by insulting make a wish and cancer kids, ripping up signs and insulting every single city they're in... you think he'll be a tweener then?
Austin never liked that tweener shyt.
NYChase718
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The iwc ruined everything in the 2000's when they brainwashed everyone on what real wrestling is. Aka if it wasnt a ring of honor type match then it automatically sucked. And inherited these shytty bingo hall chants such as the worst one of all..."you deserve it".
Most of these guys are the same. Have the same moveset and same regular names and regular gimmicks. Trying to do the same corny matches. Finish spams kickouts and flips.
In 2001 when jericho beat austin and rock...he was a heel and actually got booed when he beat them two.
In todays world id imagine him getting "you deserve it "chants . like kevin owens that time. Makes the show shytty.
Most of these guys are the same. Have the same moveset and same regular names and regular gimmicks. Trying to do the same corny matches. Finish spams kickouts and flips.
In 2001 when jericho beat austin and rock...he was a heel and actually got booed when he beat them two.
In todays world id imagine him getting "you deserve it "chants . like kevin owens that time. Makes the show shytty.
Sasha Banks ripping up signs..lolThere isn't because they don't let heels be true heels.
Have someone feud with Cena by insulting make a wish and cancer kids, ripping up signs and insulting every single city they're in... you think he'll be a tweener then?
Nothing but truth being said in this clip.
The internet is to blame, but it ultimately falls on the WWE. They don't treat it as a real competition anymore so the fans don't either. Kayfabe is completely dead, so nobody cares about the stories or the wins and losses, all they care about is the guy they followed on the indies getting a "push"
The internet is to blame, but it ultimately falls on the WWE. They don't treat it as a real competition anymore so the fans don't either. Kayfabe is completely dead, so nobody cares about the stories or the wins and losses, all they care about is the guy they followed on the indies getting a "push"
Real talk: fans are the problem.
It should be where you cheer a good face, boo a good heel, and be silent on people who suck. Fans try to control the show and don't know how to do it. These dummies pay their money to go and boo the faces they think suck, thereby giving them the treatment of good heels. It's fukking retarded.
It should be where you cheer a good face, boo a good heel, and be silent on people who suck. Fans try to control the show and don't know how to do it. These dummies pay their money to go and boo the faces they think suck, thereby giving them the treatment of good heels. It's fukking retarded.
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Say that one more time for the people in the back that swear the fans can do no wrong.