Steve Harvey Invites Paula Deen Mentor 100 Black Boys :dahell:

[flo]

This.

Especially since their handlers/agents/business partners/producers are white/Jewish.

Can we name JUST ONE free famous black man who speaks his mind and whites can't touch him? I'll wait.

I was going to say Jesse Williams but he's biracial

 

[semtex]

Tae c00n do and jeet c00n do black belt

 

[mrken12]

This added on to the shyt he said about atheists has made me lose all respect for him.

His sitcom tho

Like what? It probably wasn't even that serious.

 

[Kane]

Like what? It probably wasn't even that serious.

It was honestly whatever to me. He has absolutely no concept of evolution, and that's fine. What made me feel some type of way was that he was revelling in his ignorance. Calling atheists idiots? Not even wanting to talk to one and have an open discussion about their beliefs? Dude is a dumbass and he's proud of it.

 

[mrken12]

It was honestly whatever to me. He has absolutely no concept of evolution, and that's fine. What made me feel some type of way was that he was revelling in his ignorance. Calling atheists idiots? Not even wanting to talk to one and have an open discussion about their beliefs? Dude is a fukkin dumbass.

A lot of people don't like people pushing their beliefs and insulting others for not agreeing. Whether the person is religious or atheist.

And have you seen discussions with atheists? With the exception of scientists, those discussions are unbearable to witness.

 

[Kane]

A lot of people don't like people pushing their beliefs and insulting others for not agreeing. Whether the person is religious or atheist.

And have you seen discussions with atheists? With the exception of scientists, those discussions are unbearable to witness.

Steve didn't even know what an atheist was until that point. The reason he walks away from them is because he doesn't like hearing anything that challenges his beliefs. Religions need their followers to reject opposing viewpoints in order for them to thrive.

In regards to atheists being unbearable to argue with, the same can be said for religious people. My only issue was with him choosing to insult something he knew absolutely nothing about.

 

[mrken12]

I'm a staunch Tariq Nasheed supporter & fan, but I can't endorse or ride with Tariq on this one when it's apparent he's trying to give Steve Harvey a pass by rationalizing his actions & absolving him of any responsibility or involvement in this Paula Dean fiasco.

That didn't sit well with me at all. He's always trying to make excuses for c00ns but at the same time condemning them.

We know Tariq is all about hustling but all money isn't good money. Especially if it's earned at the expense of the black community and further damages our image.

 

[Savior]

Imagine ANY other group doing this.

Imagine some anti-semite being asked to speak to jewish kids.

Or someone that spoke against hispanics being asked to lecture hispanic kids.

Or gays.

Or Ray Rice being asked to mentor young girls.

You can't in a MILLION years imagine some shyt like this happening....EXCEPT for black people.

And it's NOT just Steve...that should be made clear. He's just the "dumb ******" being used to promote this garbage. How many agents/lawyers/publicist/handlers/producers have their hands in this? How many people from different camps got together to put this shyt in motion.

God DAMN am I getting sick of the propaganda.

Exactly....look like how they did Mel Gibson who was one of the biggest stars in hollywood before that anti jew rant. But not for blacks no.....even D list celebrity bytches like Paula Deen can spout an apology, get a couple of c00ns to trot out for her and all is forgiven. Im sick of this shyt. And the worst is that theres so many black celebrities that are waiting in line to cosign this type of fukkery. Why is it that black celebrities are so fukking eager to sell out? These nikkas need to be ostracized and completely shunned cause they're more dangerous than any Paula Deen.

 

[tmonster]

Exactly....look like how they did Mel Gibson who was one of the biggest stars in hollywood before that anti jew rant. But not for blacks no.....even D list celebrity bytches like Paula Deen can spout an apology, get a couple of c00ns to trot out for her and all is forgiven. Im sick of this shyt. And the worst is that theres so many black celebrities that are waiting in line to cosign this type of fukkery. Why is it that black celebrities are so fukking eager to sell out? These nikkas need to be ostracized and completely shunned cause they're more dangerous than any Paula Deen.

because we don't end their careers when they do

 

[marcuz]

its not that their eager to sell out, it's that cacs are signing their paychecks.

if you had a 7 figure income, and some higher ups wanted to use you as a pawn. most of you nikkas would put on ya tap dancing boots as well.

 

[No Sleep]

I've truly lost hope when it comes to black celebs. I think the realist nikka is probably Denzel Washington. He keeps his shyt together.

 

[Box Cutta]

Decent article on this fiasco : http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/10/03/whats-really-behind-paula-deen-steve-harvey-partnership

What’s Really Behind That Crazy New Paula Deen/Steve Harvey Partnership

Beyond the obvious ($$$!), it’s actually a brilliant alignment of brands. And it just might rehabilitate the butter queen’s image for good.

If you haven’t yet reached your weekly quota of “who greenlighted this madness?” news, we’ll top you right off. On Thursday, fallen Food Network star Paula Deen appeared on Steve Harvey’s talk show to announce that Deen would be appearing at Harvey’s camp for fatherless (and predominantly African American) boys as a culinary arts instructor next year.

Like having a frat brah deliver the keynote at a NOW convention, the incongruous pairing raised plenty of thorny questions. Is a white multimillionaire who’s admitted to using the N-word multiple times (and once tried to plan a plantation-themed wedding complete with all-black servers!) really the best front-facing rep for minority youth mentorship? Should these kids be learning how to create Deen's calorie-bombs when the prevalence of obesity among black youth (20.2 percent) is higher than white youth (14.1 percent), according to the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention? And why now, more than 15 months after Deen’s racist testimony became public?

You already know the answers to all of the above: Money. Just last week Deen launched a new digital enterprise, pauladeennetwork.com, that costs between $7.99 and $9.99 per month for access. Now more than ever she needs supporters beyond Deen die-hards to pony up.

“I can tell you for a fact that her team has been planning this comeback so strategically for more than a year now,” says Jo Piazza, the author of Celebrity, Inc.: How Famous People Make Money. She’s a reporter who’s spent years chronicling the bizarre phenomena of Hollywood image management. Though Deen has cultivated a folksy image among her supporters, “it’s such a typical celebrity move and one that’s incredibly disingenuous, but I think it may actually work,” says Piazza.

Here’s why it’s a strangely perfect alliance: Deen and Harvey share a very similar fan base of women, many Christian, who admire pleasant, hardworking moms. (Don’t forget that Deen raised two boys alone. This gives her a valuable perspective on the challenges facing fatherless youth.)

Their demo is also one that prizes the virtue of forgiveness, even if it requires piggybacking on a name that’s big in the black community. “It’s almost forgiveness by the transitive property,” Piazza says. “She’s banking on ‘if Steve forgives, me, you should forgive me. And in your forgiveness of me you should buy my products and tune into my new digital venture.’”

Championing the comeback of a disgraced star is not without its risks for Harvey or any celeb. Plenty of Internet commenters have labeled Harvey an Uncle Tom or c00n, characterizing Harvey as Deen’s “ghetto pass.” And, apart from Jodie Foster’s weirdly effective burnishing of Mel Gibson’s image, vouching for a broken soul rarely takes. Just look at the dismal result when Oprah Winfrey gave Lindsay Lohan her OWN reality show.

But Harvey is an absolute juggernaut in the black community, with multiple TV shows, books and film franchises to his name. You need only look at his Q score, a commonly-used metric of a celebrity’s consumer appeal, to see his star power. Among African Americans, Steve Harvey has a positive Q score of 46, astronomical compared to the average positive score of 18.

Deen’s numbers, by contrast, are basement level. Before the scandal, she had average- to above-average ratings for her positive Q score, says Henry Schafer, the executive vice president of Marketing Evaluations, the firm behind the Q scores. Her positive Q score among African American population was actually higher than among the overall population. Just after the racism scandal broke in the summer of 2013, her positive Q score dropped 15 and the negative Q score ballooned from a respectable 21 to 34.

A year filled with messy mea culpas but no concrete charitable efforts from Deen has done little to correct that. She’s rebounded to a mere 11 positive Q score and a 33 negative Q score. As you’d expect, her scores are much worse when you isolate African-Americans’ perceptions: 7 for the positive Q score, a whopping 40 for the negative.

Schafer says that it may take more than buddying up with Harvey to fix Deen’s numbers. “The strength of someone else’s celebrity rubbing off on someone doesn’t make much as an impact as what someone does personally with fixing their lives,” says Schafer. Even so, devotedly working the charity is no guarantee of a comeback.

Take Michael Vick. He served jail time, lobbied for the Animal Fighting Spectator Prohibition Act, and worked with the Humane Society in the aftermath of his dog-fighting scandal. Yet his Q score hasn’t budged: This summer, his positive Q score was a mere 7, the negative a whopping 47.

Vick’s lesson is that if you employ the redemption by association strategy, whether charitable or celebrity, it’s important your intentions seem pure. There might still be work to do on that front. Taffy Brodesser-Akner’s recent investigation into Deen’s image rehab is a must-read, if only for observations from her time on last winter’s week-long Paula Deen Cruise: “[Deen’s] breath a tobacco-Breath Savers layer cake, the icing of which was a seemingly endless supply of wintergreen gum, chewed loudly and for emphasis; her hair smelled like Binaca. But underneath it was the rotten cancer smell of the cigarettes. This is the way it is with Paula. If you get close enough and stay long enough, it is hard for her to keep anything that is underneath covered up.”

In a just world, Deen should have to do more than fly in boys for a one-on-one cooking lesson. It just seems a little too close to using black men as props, something we all know she was once cool with when planning her bro’s wedding.

But in Hollywood, all that Deen’s resurrection may require is sticking to her own personal—and personable—brand. That’s the trick that Piazza attributes to Reese Witherspoon’s successful glide past her drunken on-camera rant to a cop last year. All it took was a cheerful apology and reference to her Legally Blonde persona on Good Morning America and it was basically history. Whereas a guy like Charlie Sheen can claim his crazy and still get his TV shows, a woman like Deen just has to stick to the Southern charm script. “Paula Deen’s brand depends on her likeablility because nice women make more money,” says Piazza.

If she can pull that off, maybe good old Steve will invite Deen back to camp in 2016, this time as the entrepreneurship mentor. Goodness knows she’s got savvy to spare.

The thing about her high-calorie food is minor...but is actually a really good point. Young black kids get enough messages from fukking McDonalds and Coke and Burger King etc...without having to be taught that 8 sticks of butter is acceptable for one loaf of bread. She's the last bytch that needs to be teaching kids how to cook, black or otherwise.

The most interesting shyt is the Q-Score stuff....that's pretty much what it comes down to. Just one big PR stunt, using at-risk kids as PROPS to regain her popularity. fukking disgusting.

@marcuz while I agree 100 percent with you that without the ability to sign the checks that we ultimately lack control...I don't think that we should underestimate the greed of these people. We can still influence *some* aspects of our representation through power of the dollar. If Steve Harvey's reputation drops because of this for example....you think he'll pull another stunt like this?

We just have to show some fukking CONVICTION for once. Can we change the channel? Can we stop buying products that continue to degrade our livelihoods? It takes some actual sacrifice....

 

[marcuz]

Decent article on this fiasco : http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/10/03/whats-really-behind-paula-deen-steve-harvey-partnership



The thing about her high-calorie food is minor...but is actually a really good point. Young black kids get enough messages from fukking McDonalds and Coke and Burger King etc...without having to be taught that 8 sticks of butter is acceptable for one loaf of bread. She's the last bytch that needs to be teaching kids how to cook, black or otherwise.

The most interesting shyt is the Q-Score stuff....that's pretty much what it comes down to. Just one big PR stunt, using at-risk kids as PROPS to regain her popularity. fukking disgusting.

@marcuz while I agree 100 percent with you that without the ability to sign the checks that we ultimately lack control...I don't think that we should underestimate the greed of these people. We can still influence *some* aspects of our representation through power of the dollar. If Steve Harvey's reputation drops because of this for example....you think he'll pull another stunt like this?

if the money is right, you're damn right he will. fact is, everyone knows blacks are quick to forgive and forget.

 

[TMNT4000]

That is the only one I can think of

Why do you think nobody touched him yet?

What did he do to make sure white powers didn't cross his path?

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Didn't Steve Harvey try to pull some sly shyt with getting Bernie's role in Ocean's Eleven.



fukk that guy.