1.)How was that the best iteration, by what measure? They won 47 games in a shytty west, Malone/Stockton weren’t even at their peaks.Yes. The 1988 version of the jazz with Stockton/jeff and karl malone ended up being the best iteration of that team. THAT is who the Lakers faced “in the 80s.” How am I deviating from anything? You mentioned the 80s that jazz team was the best they ever was which happened to be that time and that’s who the Lakers faced.
The thread is about their overall years together. What are you not getting?
I consider that team to be a good team, which “at the time” many thought was on the way to becoming a great team. They never became a great team. That was their peak.1.)How was that the best iteration, by what measure?
2.)You consider the 1988 Jazz to be a great team? If that’s the best team they beat in the west during that run that’s kinda pathetic
3.)The Lakers competition in the west during their run was mostly trash, it was basically a free ride to the finals every year. I just highlighted 1987 to make my point
2 of the 5 best players ever at their position played for 18 years and went out in round 1/2 13 of the 18 seasons? This is basically unprecedented.
Imagine if Steph Curry/Dirk Nowitkski were together for 18 years with a HOF coach and never won a ring? You wouldn’t believe that.
The only explanation they weren’t as good as people said
1.)How many of these guys played together though . Imagine if Dirk played with Steph curry for 18 years they won zero chips and got Eliminated in round 9 times?How many times did Dirk get eliminated in the 1/2 rounds? He played 20 years and has 2 Finals appearances, 3 Conf Finals. Look at Hakeem. He was being ousted routinely early. Hell, Sonics were their weakness. Moses. KD & Russ, Shaq, Wade. Barkley. KG and countless others.
In fact, there's only a handful of players you cannot say it about - Russell, Cousy, Jordan, Steph, Lebron. Duncan, Logo. Wilt. Magic. Doc & Bird, Kobe..and perhaps 2 other names
Jerry Sloan became a HOF coach because of them, and they had already been to playoffs 5 or so years before he came.
On to 1989. 51 win team, swept in the 1st round.
Six straight playoff losses to the Warriors.
All the typical complaints are ALREADY here…in 1989. Dry spells on offense, 5 points in 14 possessions, Malone scoreless for long stretches, no ability to score, etc.
NBA scoring drought era began
They were horrible defensively though. MJ ate off them in the Finals more than any finals team he faces.
Oliver Miller being their best low post defender
If shooters back, then shoot, as well as they do now, defensive will be extended, and we’d see the same type of scoring.
I don’t wanna hear shyt about the 90s anymore. I was disgusted watching the middling Davis boys battle in Charles Oakley in the low blocks. Throw that 90s ball in the trash.
I posted this in here years ago… “And that is Knicks first field goal and over 5 minutes and 37 seconds!!” - Marv Albert.
The 80s and now shyt all over that trash era.
Michael Jordan covered the complete fall off from 80s NBA quality I saw from the league in the 90s. shyt was atrocious and I said it in real time.
Even you have to admit he's 100% correct.