So Greek Freak had the largest negative (-17) in the entire game against Cleveland. So does that mean it’s his fault the Bucks lost? Analatyic nerds have ruined basketball. GMs actually look at these stats to determine whether they’ll sign a player or not. Players will be stigmatized as "not playing winning basketball" when everyone else in the lineup with them is trash.
Stop Looking At the Plus/Minus Stats to Guage Player Effectiveness
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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You're preaching to the choir, my breh. I've been saying this for the longest. Same applies to the box score in general.
I would guess Demarcus Cousins' plus/minus is in the high negatives because his teams has largely sucked. Let’s say he gets traded to a good team. The narrative would be "he finally learned how to win and stop playing for himself." Lol
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
That’s not analytics. Plus minus has always been around. There is something to be said when a team plays better without you than with you which clearly ain’t the case with Antetokounmpo and you damn sure can’t determine stuff like this off one game
Giannis was the best player on the court yesterday
Taking 1 Stat from 1 game and forming an opinion is not analytics
This thread is a straw man
This thread is a straw man
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
you have to take into context stars vs bench/role players obviously but it says alot when your star player(s) has the worst impact on the game/team even when getting numbers.
3rd Koast Kang
Superstar
Its exactly why you dont look at one game and make judgements off of it.
That falls on the coaching, not a single player. Certain lineups simply don’t work as well. Plus/minus is a flawed way to determine player impact, period. Lonzo Ball was the reason the Lakers won, yet he had the lowest plus/minus in that entire starting lineup.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
They have stats that show how good certain lineups are when they're on the court, but (gasp) that's analytics.
Middleton had to be -100
Let me edit my post for most of the game cause Bron was the perfect orchestratorNot in the 4th.
SadimirPutin
Superstar
absurdly transparent too...
You know the funny thing.....................people knock analytics until it proves what they want it to prove..
But somehow barbershop experts and eye test claims will get 100 daps..
Analytics is for nikkaz who go to the store and buy their lady tampons