So Angela Davis, Assata Shakur, Elaine Brown, Ella Baker, Catylyn Cleaver, and all the other women instrumental to black liberation were only in it for themselves at the expenses of men and boys?
Betty Spates, black woman,was the girlfriend/concubine to white klansman racist Loyd Jowers who admitted in the 90s to being apart of a plot to kill Martin Luther King jr. in fact the King family won its case and a judgment against Loyd Jowers in 1999 but Betty Spates with her six oow kids remains silent to this day. Carrie Butler was the black concubine and abandoned baby mama of racist Jim Crow politician, Strom Thurmund, who she is on record as describing as a "good man".
Even of the minority of fully black slave owners the majority were black females freed by white male slave owners, the mullato majority slave owners were by and large the children of black women and white men.
The majority of urban black slaveowners were women. In 1820, free black women represented 68 percent of heads of households and 70 percent of slaveholding heads of colored households. The large percentage of black women slaveowners is explained by the combined effects of manumission (being freed by their white masters for whom they fathered children), inheritance (receiving slaves from their white masters, relatives, and even husbands who had a higher mortality rate than women), and personal industry once they were free (buying slaves themselves).
Black women were the majority of slaves emancipated by white slave owning men with whom they had had sexual relations. The miscegenous nature of South Carolina society is nowhere better revealed than by the fact that 33 percent of all the recorded colonial manumissions were mulatto children and 75 percent of all adult manumissions were females.
UWEC Geog188 Vogeler - Free Black Slaveowners in South Carolina
A number of black women collaborated with white men in enslaving black men and black children. While black men, who had a much higher death rate, took the majority of the beatings, were much more likely to do back breaking field work, and were castrated, had to fight with blood sweat and tears for their own freedom and even the freedom of black women and chidlren as in the case of madison washington who risked his life to go BACK DOWN THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD into slaveholding territory in the south to look for his wife, before being capture and leading a SUCCESSFUL slave revolt on a ship.
Every single actualized slave revolt in the US was started by black men, none were started by black women or abolitionist white people(only planned insurrections), while black women on the other hand got to lay on their backs for slave holding white men to gain their freedom, thus why they got special treatment on the plantations and had a much higher manumission(being freed) rate than black men.
It's not an issue of "black men are inept" and such. But I believe there are some biological truths when it comes to women. They are hypergamous by nature. In a white supremacist patriarchy, white men are the dominant figure in general society. Asian women are a good example of hypergamous tendencies in such a system.
- Up until 1970 census there were more recorded marriages between black women & white men than black men and white women. And these marriages happened during a time when one of the most shameful things a white man could do was marry a black women. Most prominent black females at the time had relations with white men such as Madam CJ Walker, Lena Horne, Pearl Baily, Josephine Baker, Dorothy Dandridge, Lorraine Hansberry, and even "Pro blk" women like Maya Angelo and Alice Walker were married to or involved with white men. And as mentioned before Betty Spates, a black woman, was the girlfriend/concubine to white klansman racist Loyd Jowers who admitted in the 90s to being apart of a plot to kill Martin Luther King jr, and Carrie Butler was the black concubine and abandonded baby mama of racist Jim Crow politician, Strom Thurmund.
https://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/ms-la/tabms-3.txt
(Last three zeros are redacted- Numbers are in the thousands)
- It was a black woman with a white man who first fought tooth and nail all the way to a federal court ruling to legalize interracial marriages the nation-over, by riding the coattails of the civil rights movement that black MEN started with the Loving vs Virginia court case of 1967. So, I can't understand why they would be mad at black men and white women for taking advantages of rights that THEY fought for.
Loving v. Virginia - Wikipedia
Conversely, while the termination of slavery ended white male ownership of black female bodies, when white male-black female sexual liaisons or sexual victimization did occur, these acts were generally unacknowledged and ignored by white society and law enforcement. Biracial children born before the middle of the twentieth century were most often the children of black mothers and white men who were not involved in the rearing of their children. Biracial children were frequently raised by their mothers within the black community and socially identified as monoracially black.
http://etd.fcla.edu/CF/CFE0001361/Fontenot_Kara_J_200612_MA.pdf
Up until relatively recently in this country the ball HAS been in black women's court with them having the majority of opportunities to cross romantic racial boundaries via interracial miscegenation and they rolled with it until their wheels fell off and over-saturated themselves(and put asian women to shame especially considering the time in which it happened and the polar opposing foe whites are to black people) and more white women started to open themselves up to black men, and then the tables turned in black men's 'favor'(depending on how you look at it). It is what it is. I'm not saying good or bad for the black community overall, but that black women have no moral superiority over us in this regard.
Using IR marriage rate to judge in group loyalty is a terrible metric, especially for women, seeing as it's MEN who propose marriage to women, not the other way around. Non-black men, especially white men, simple aren't checking for black women as long term marriage prospects anywhere near as much as they do for asian women, thus why asian women don't form obnoxious swirler movements out desperation for non-asian, particular white, male validation.
Further proof that black women jump when given the opportunity to cross racial lines in marriage is the fact that numerous studies show that as black women increase in education and income they are far more likely to marry white men, while the median income for black men is more or less the same for those who marry black and white women.
And not only that, but black women tend to marry down when they marry white men, while asian women marry up. White men who marry asian women have the highest median income while white men who marry black women have the lowest median income. Asian women aren't the ones settling for white men out of "self-hate".
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2012/02/SDT-Intermarriage-II.pdf
(Table A6)
I'd say your analysis regarding asian women is flawed historically as well(who I even predicted you would bring up), because we can compare the aforementioned track record of black women above to that of asian women to see who's been shown more endogamous loyalty and stood by their male counterparts through thick and thin throughout history, and if they deserve to be painted as pathological traitors and self-haters as you seem to be implying.
This is how chinese women in Macau received white portuguese colonizers:
"Rarely did Chinese women marry Portuguese. The majority of marriages between Portuguese and natives was between Portuguese men and women of Tanka origin, who were considered the lowest class of people in China and had relations with Portuguese settlers and sailors, or low class Chinese women.
Western men like the Portuguese were refused by high class Chinese women, who did not marry foreigners."
With that said I'd say East-Asian women have historically been very steadfast in their morals and principles in resisting the advances of their white male oppressors despite the being tempted by the opportunity to climb the racial hierarchy leaving asian males behind to suffer. Can't say the same for black women historically. Only very recently have we seen this explosion of asian women interracial dating at the rates that they do.
As far as voting statistics you're probably right about voting a black woman over a black man that's not saying anything. The men would vote for the men too. Also a black man has already been president. But white women's support of Trump over Clinton has major external factors at play. The West is going through a period of right wing resurgence. White women voting for Trump is them upholding their status as white women. America was also the most barbaric form of slavery and racism in the West. White nationalism had a stronger pull than feminism this election. And that doesn't account for Hillary being a shyt candidate altogether. Even then it was a 53% majority Trump. When Clinton ran against Obama in the 2008 primaries, black women voted for Clinton 15% and black men 12%, smallest gender gap between any of the races.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjASegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw0jlvOUoB883xJ1vDrH_xR8
So, you concede that white women put white male centered white nationalism over white female feminism then? Right, okay, and black women would never support a blatantly sexist black male "nationalist" who was alleged to have sexually assaulted many black women in the past over a black female black feminist. It just wouldn't happen.
White women are BLINDLY loyal to white men even at their own expense, hence why the feminist movement was in the first place. They are the polar opposite of black women in terms of their loyalty to their male counter parts.
About that whole "speaking of which" though.
White feminists are the loudest ones in the mainstream talking about "white cis men are trash" The tweets with sentiments going viral talking about "Call him what he is, a White Christian Radical Terrorist" whenever some shyt happens, white women are on that wave so so heavy.
They're saying call white male terrorist what they really are. I don't see a problem with that, seeing as many of those white male terrorist murder white females, like the girl who was run over and killed in Charlottesville. That's completely different from saying that "white men ARE terrorist" in a broadly generalized manner. Show me where one white woman has written an article saying that white men ARE terrorist.
The rest is nothing, but right wing fear mongering conspiracy non-sense. Fertility rates of a nation have much more to do with development, cost of living, and access to birth control than "in group loyalty".
And since you decided to go all the way to what's happening in europe as proof of white women's level of loyalty, let me reference Africa as a gauge of black women's loyalty.
Black African women help Chinese colonize their nations, through citizen benefits scams via marriage.
Here's a notorious anti-bm AA swirling shill glorifying it.
White European women greet refugee with hugs and kisses. Black African women greet Chinese colonizers with their legs open.
Black women are not like this. They aren't like Asian women. What Dave Chapelle said in The Bird Revelation is true.
Yep, they're clearly much worse.
A lot of black dudes haven’t been getting “me too-ed.” I don’t want to jinx myself. You know why, though? Obviously, black women go through the same thing, right? The reason is because black women from slavery won’t tell on us. Because they know that no matter how bad we black dudes are, white dudes are very mean. They’re scared to see us get punished. My wife is Asian. She’d tell on me in a goddamn second. [laughing] [laughs] Ain’t no fukking up in the Chappelle household.
You do know that black men are falsely accused of rape all the time, right? In fact according to the national registry of exonerations black men make up %61 of prisoners exonerated for being falsely accused of rape. And while a DISPROPORTIONATE amount of the accusers may have been white women, it's only reasonable to assume that black women make up the majority of them. In fact there were two major cases last year of black women falsely accusing black men of rape.
The first is from a black woman in accussing her ex-boyfriend of kidnapping and raping her.
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/…/shreveport-woma…/784793001/
The second is from a black woman who made up a story about 3 black males dragging her into a bush and raping her at a park in broad daylight.
http://wspa.com/…/police-woman-filed-false-report-of-spart…/
This is from the original article from when the story first broke. She purposefully played on the savage black male stereotype and had a whole town in a notoriously racist state(South Carolina) scared to death that there were three imaginary big bad black males out there raping women. The police actually picked up and held three innocent brothers until the girl finally fessed up and confessed she lied about the whole thing.
Duncan Park Sexual Assault