Stupidity or morality?

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so I withdrew about 800$ from my bank a few days ago.

Then I get home count the money and had I 1000$. The next day I check my online statement, and sure enough, I only showed a 800$ transaction.

My first thought was to call the bank and notify them that they made a mistake. I was told that A teller did show a 200 shortfall for the day. I returned the money on my lunch break. Why? Because I didn't earn the money, and I had no rightful ownership of that money. The moment that I knew I had 200$ that didn't belong to me I considered it thievery to keep the money.

To be honest, when I jumped to public practice, I took pay cut. I definitely could the money. But I refuse to be a thief.

However, the reactions i got from co-workers were straight up shocking. So many were surprised that I did that, or said," most people wouldn't do that." It seemed to me that they were implying that they wouldn't do that.

Someone else told me, "dude, banks are greedy and evil,". Whether or not it was a bank never once entered into my mind.

Am really one of the few people who would do something like that? I would feel really disappointed in humanity if that is true.

So was what I did the sign or someone who is principled or someone who is stupid?
 

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right thing to do. most ppl wouldn't do that. i know i most likely wouldn't. i always preach ppl do the right thing.

now because it's you i have to wonder you'd return the money if it were a black teller. cause with me that'd be a factor in returning the money. i wouldn't wanna jeopardize another black person's job. even though i've gotten black ppl fired for poor service. i can't stand ppl who don't take their job seriously.

they probably could pin it down to giving you the money but i doubt they'd do anything about it. they'd most definitely fire the teller. that was a good act on your part.

we should reward good deeds so take the rep fakkit.
 
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I would return it only because a teller could lose their job, not because I didn't "earn it". Banks don't "earn" any of their money either. fukk them.
 
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so I withdrew about 800$ from my bank a few days ago.
Then I get home count the money and had I 1000$. The next day I check my online statement, and sure enough, I only showed a 800$ transaction.
My first thought was to call the bank and notify them that they made a mistake. I was told that A teller did show a 200 shortfall for the day. I returned the money on my lunch break. Why? Because I didn't earn the money, and I had no rightful ownership of that money. The moment that I knew I had 200$ that didn't belong to me I considered it thievery to keep the money.
To be honest, when I jumped to public practice, I took pay cut. I definitely could the money. But I refuse to be a thief.
However, the reactions i got from co-workers were straight up shocking. So many were surprised that I did that, or said," most people wouldn't do that." It seemed to me that they were implying that they wouldn't do that.
Someone else told me, "dude, banks are greedy and evil,". Whether or not it was a bank never once entered into my mind.
Am really one of the few people who would do something like that? I would feel really disappointed in humanity if that is true.
So was what I did the sign or someone who is principled or someone who is stupid?
Everything we do is selfish, even if it seems moral or helpful to others....

At the end of the day, we do it for the self...You are the type of person who couldn't live peacefully knowing that you got an extra bit of money through a banking error...To avoid psychological distress, you took the path of least resistance (for yourself) and returned the money...For another individual, keeping the money would have been the path of least resistance...

You were only trying to protect yourself from psychological distress...There is NO Universal good/bad and right/wrong in the action that you chose to take..It can only be judged on an Individual level...

I would have had no problems keeping that extra $200, and I would have had a million and one rationalizations for why I chose to keep the money...

Everything goes in the GRAND scheme of the UNIVERSE...

Morality is BS...At one point in human history, it was perfectly moral and lawful to own a another human being as a slave, based on the colour of their skin...It went on for hundreds of years...

The point is, moral values are fickle and arbitrary and your moral values don't make you better than the person who would chose to keep the money...
 

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I would return it only because a teller could lose their job, not because I didn't "earn it". Banks don't "earn" any of their money either. fukk them.
teller probably still lost her job..
 

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right thing to do. most ppl wouldn't do that. i know i most likely wouldn't. i always preach ppl do the right thing.

now because it's you i have to wonder you'd return the money if it were a black teller. cause with me that'd be a factor in returning the money. i wouldn't wanna jeopardize another black person's job. even though i've gotten black ppl fired for poor service. i can't stand ppl who don't take their job seriously.

they probably could pin it down to giving you the money but i doubt they'd do anything about it. they'd most definitely fire the teller. that was a good act on your part.

we should reward good deeds so take the rep fakkit.

the teller was south Asian and most likely Indian.
 

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I would return it only because a teller could lose their job, not because I didn't "earn it". Banks don't "earn" any of their money either. fukk them.
I don't see how this would prevent the teller from losing the job. A fukk up is still a fukk regardless if the person returned the money or not.
 

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They take peoples houses for pennies and generally just petty.


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Everything we do is selfish, even if it seems moral or helpful to others....

At the end of the day, we do it for the self...You are the type of person who couldn't live peacefully knowing that you got an extra bit of money through a banking error...To avoid psychological distress, you took the path of least resistance (for yourself) and returned the money...For another individual, keeping the money would have been the path of least resistance...

You were only trying to protect yourself from psychological distress...There is NO Universal good/bad and right/wrong in the action that you chose to take..It can only be judged on an Individual level...

I would have had no problems keeping that extra $200, and I would have had a million and one rationalizations for why I chose to keep the money...

Everything goes in the GRAND scheme of the UNIVERSE...

Morality is BS...At one point in human history, it was perfectly moral and lawful to own a another human being as a slave, based on the colour of their skin...It went on for hundreds of years...

The point is, moral values are fickle and arbitrary and your moral values don't make you better than the person who would chose to keep the money...


I am a moral absolutist. I did because I felt it would be wrong.

Does that make me better than you? I would never commit fraud or rationalize murder (not in self-defense) ever. I would never torture someone. I would never enslave someone. In the days when slavery was allowed, there were groups of absolutists who shunned slavery.

There are few psychological experiments that test people's ability to resist peer pressure or consequentialist rationalism. Usual only 10-20% can resist those pressures. I guess I am one them.

If was a German in Germany, I die before I'd turn a Jew into the authorities.
 

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I don't understand this type of mindset? How does their behavior factor into my behavior?

their actions affect you and the people around you

I could give a damn about corporate actors especially ones that I see negatively.


if a teller gave you an extra two hundred dollars should she still have a job?

are you protecting the teller or the bank?


enjoy your morning ego wank
 
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I am a moral absolutist. I did because I felt it would be wrong.
Does that make me better than you? I would never commit fraud or rationalize murder (not in self-defense) ever. I would never torture someone. I would never enslave someone. In the days when slavery was allowed, there were groups of absolutists who shunned slavery.
There are few psychological experiments that test people's ability to resist peer pressure or consequentialist rationalism. Usual only 10-20% can resist those pressures. I guess I am one them.
If was a German in Germany, I die before I'd turn a Jew into the authorities.
(1) So, if a friend or family needed a life changing treatment that cost $200, you would still return the money and roll the dice on getting your family or friend the treatment that they needed...?

So, if you lived during the Slave days or in Nazi Germany, and a Jew/African person was hiding in your barn, you would tell the TRUTH and point that person out to the authorities...?

What if that Jew/African hiding in your barn needed $200 to escape and start a better life, you would rather return that money to the Banks financing the persecution, rather than giving it to the Jew/African to escape...?

(2) Moral Absolutism only works when you are living in a nice cushy environment where the hardest choice you have to make in your daily life is whether to buy an iPhone or a Galaxy cellphone...

People who have been through or going through "life or death" situations learn to be more adaptable...

Morality is relative...How exactly can we determine that a specific set of moral values is universally right and beyond reproach...?
 
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