Styles P calls out Troy Ave for his suicide comments

[Frida Giezman]

What am i saying that is so though?

Im not even talking about this joey badass troy culdesac styles p thing anymore....like that needs to be addressed.

I just get tired of this victim shyt y'all be on on here

Y'all give white people WAY too much power

I could just imagine a racist white person reading your post about black dudes offing themselves because they can't deal with living in this "white man's world" with the face on

Man up

 

[Frida Giezman]

it takes more balls to face your problems head on, suicide is absoutly a cowards way out

Yall both right

 

[Zero]

I'ma say this much, this is most I've ever played a Troy Ave song that wasn't Cigar Smoke

 

[SoulController]

ive never seen a diss track backfire like this. literally everyone in NYC hates this dude now

 

[Wacky D]

styles p daughter?

man im gettin old.

RIP tho.

 

[Unknown Poster]

I just get tired of this victim shyt y'all be on on here

Y'all give white people WAY too much power

I could just imagine a racist white person reading your post about black dudes offing themselves because they can't deal with living in this "white man's world" with the face on

Man up

If that's what you get from my post, im sorry, we have nothing to continue discussing.

You expect black people to be happy all the fukking time after dealkng with 250 years of slavery and colonialism? 150 of disenfranchismen...

Never mind im done


Man up....while another black man or woman without a gun is probably gonna get killed by a cop tonight or tomorrow.

This environment be making black people snap and go crazy.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Do some of ya'll really think that people that become suicidal actually want to die? Usually it's one of two things:

1. Chemical imbalances that can't be helped without medication.

2. The person is in so much pain that they just don't want to feel it anymore. It's not usually that dying seems like a good idea, it's just that it seems like a better idea than whatever is going on. And most people that survive suicide attempts say that as soon as they stepped off the ledge, kicked out the chair, etc, that they instantly regretted it and wanted to live.

So yeah. Hating suicide or thinking it's cowardly is fine, because it is a selfish act. But it's also not usually done under rational or normal circumstances. So whatever is takes to help someone out that has suicidal thoughts, or draw attention to it or let someone else know, for sure do what you think you should do.

 

[spliz]

It's people out here dying who want to live longer bit they can because of some type of illness. You have perfectly healthy people out here killing themselves.

I don't care what he said in the interview. Dude has his own opinion on the matter. He shouldn't have to be PC.

If SPOILER daughter didn't commit that, would we even be having this discussion?

If u wanna take what other people dealing with and apply it to urself. Than u can do that across the board. UR issues and the way u handle it is on u. That's as simple as saying. "There's people in Africa starving and u complaining about this and that". The fukk does the people in Africa starving have to do wit ur situation? Does that mean ur situition ain't hard cause someone else has it harder? It's retarded logic. And implies that u can't feel a way about what u goin thru. Like I said before. Alotta suicides stem from a mental illness. The way these people think ain't the same as a rational normal thinking person. A normal persons thinking "imma stay alive cause people need me in their life and love me". Suicidal depressive person. "Imma kill myself because the people I love are better off without me." The train of thought is completely different. And Capital Steez was like 18 years old I believe. nikka was still a kid basically. Troy is a grown ass man. Him goin on the radio and wilding out on somebody he doesn't know and ain't here to defend himself for basically no reason is uncalled for. shyt wasn't that deep in the first place.

 

[spliz]

it takes more balls to face your problems head on, suicide is absoutly a cowards way out

Is what a normal person who's rational would say. We ain't talkin bout that kinda person.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Yeah, you can say anything you want. Be ready to get touched though. Their camp and Steez's family is justified in doing whatever to dude now.

(Looking beyond rap and street needs... There are even rules in war though... whether international law, even though that often gets ignored, or unspoken norms. Part of the reason why nukes weren't used in Vietnam for example)

There is only 1 rule in society, you can only do as much as what the power you have and those that are given to you by other Humans allow you to do...

Codes of Ethics change or are ignored ALL the time...

Think about this, White Doctors been saying the Hippocrates Oath for many years "First, do no harm" but even with that "code of ethic" they experimented on people with deadly and/or debility diseases and other methods...

Codes of Ethics and Rules/Laws are there to protect powerful people and keep them in power...They are there to maintain an elitist social hierarchy...

If you can get away with it (on a personal and social level), then you didn't anything wrong...That's what I believe...

 

[Still Benefited]

If Troy Ave said this in a diss how the hell is Styles mad about that shyt?I'm sorry his daughter commited suicide,but I'm pretty sure he's killed a couple children in his records irrc....He could've hit that man privately instead of trying to get on his highhorse publically,especially when he really isn't in much of a position too as much as he's said on wax,and threats he's implied off wax....Oh you offended,go see that man or drop a record

fukk tweets condemning other rappers for they opinion,sucka move on Styles part.

 

[Gravity]

fukk outta here with this fake outrage over suicide. at Styles being on some moral authority shyt when he's made a career of being the ignorant street cat that glorifies black dysfunction. People are so selfish and fake.

 

[HoldThisL]

I just get tired of this victim shyt y'all be on on here

Y'all give white people WAY too much power

I could just imagine a racist white person reading your post about black dudes offing themselves because they can't deal with living in this "white man's world" with the face on

Man up

Trust me, saying "Man up" to a person with mental illness is the last thing you want to say. That is why their is a lot of therapist and psychatrist around. These guys need to be guided back to the light through the darkness. So many things happen to people, that you or I would not understand what they are going through. Its not that simple of just saying "Man Up". Man Up is what you would say to a dude with a one time moment or short duration of them being scared to do something, you cant say that to a dude who has been depressed for a long period of time. Your words will hold no weight.

 

[Ironman]

Yeah, I have it on my old CPU

I'll upload it when I get home

The mixtape I had back in the day I remember hearing that line. I lost that cd though but I know the file is somewhere

 

[RC998]

fukk outta here with this fake outrage over suicide. at Styles being on some moral authority shyt when he's made a career of being the ignorant street cat that glorifies black dysfunction. People are so selfish and fake.

dog he a old nikka, he probably not rapping about that no more