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[Ol’Otis]

R&B singers>>>>rappers

 

[re'up]

Good comment

Exactly right. Most of the younger generations don’t know (and don’t care) about the history of hip hop and how they were robbed of this innovative musical artform stagnating.

When NWA blew up and white suburban kids loved the shock value and how it pissed their parents off all record labels wanted to sign in the mainstream was some version of the street kingpin shooting rivals, fukking hoes etc. Radio stations only wanted to play it. It became the face of hip hop. In the early 90s you had all of these acts as the mainstream:

Kid N Play

Heavy D

EPMD

KRS

EPMD

Public Enemy

Big Daddy Kane

LL Cool J

Beastie Boys

Chubb Rock

Tribe

De La Soul

3rd Bass

Etc

By the mid 90s it was

Jay Z

Biggie

Snoop

Tupac

Mobb Deep.

Onyx

DMX

The West Coast gangsta rappers

Nas with the Escobar personna

Wu Tang

Etc

there were still some great acts but most were considered “underground” and not given the same push or attention. The criminal street dude became the face of hip hop.

I enjoyed some of those acts because they excelled at what makes a great emcee - lyrics, flow, cadence, charisma, storytelling ability etc. However gone was the variety in the mainstream. Replaced by a version of the same rapper with similar subject matter. And it wasn’t just a phase it just kept going until we got actual hardcore murderers in the form of drill.

As someone who loved hip hop and thought it would continuously grow and innovate, it’s been profoundly disappointing. And as mentioned entire generations grew up knowing nothing different. This isn’t just about things change. This was almost like self sabotage.

That's really insightful. I'm about to be 40, and I was reflecting on all this the other day. I don't feel connected at all to the last decade or so of rap. I listen to way more Drake than I used to. Never got really into drill. It's like the great artists of the 90's and early 2000's were street guys with some intelligence. Some more than others. But, it was never cool to be like a fukking retard, and now it is.

As much as I liked them in real time, 50 and G-Unit went a long way towards commercializing and marketing a certain street type of rapper. 50 was masterful at leveraging that, the vests, the drama, his posturing on diss songs and DVD's about killing people. Then it felt like the Drakes, the Kanye, the Wayne's were the way rap was headed, and drill kinda divided the genre into two categories. Kodak. The dude from Frorida who died. 21 Savage. It became about attention and no substance.

 

[L $ C]

That's really insightful. I'm about to be 40, and I was reflecting on all this the other day. I don't feel connected at all to the last decade or so of rap. I listen to way more Drake than I used to. Never got really into drill. It's like the great artists of the 90's and early 2000's were street guys with some intelligence. Some more than others. But, it was never cool to be like a fukking retard, and now it is.

As much as I liked them in real time, 50 and G-Unit went a long way towards commercializing and marketing a certain street type of rapper. 50 was masterful at leveraging that, the vests, the drama, his posturing on diss songs and DVD's about killing people. Then it felt like the Drakes, the Kanye, the Wayne's were the way rap was headed, and drill kinda divided the genre into two categories. Kodak. The dude from Frorida who died. 21 Savage. It became about attention and no substance.

pretty accurate

 

[Mac Ten]

Is that why he said ATL isn't the south?

Nah…

Pimp was coked up when he said that plus he noticed howlgg tho


If IG was around in 07, Pimp would have went viral

 

[BK The Great]

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Tell it to Kiss

 

[MicIsGod]

All the weed smoke bussin my lungs

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

I happen to know personally that u are wrong.

!!!

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

rap fans can be weird as hell.

Only know or judge an artist is "gangsta" or "real" by how much of a fan they are of them.

If they don't like them like that, the juelzing and rationalizing comes out.

" his daddy a cop! He came from a good home! The people in his hometown that don't like him saying that he not! "

Every single time.

 

[L $ C]

All the weed smoke bussin my lungs

harder than the cocks in the prison

 

[MicIsGod]

harder than the cocks in the prison

Cots you freakazoid

 

[L $ C]

Cots you freakazoid

what