Styles P Says That Jay-Z Never Reached The Level Of Lyricism Of The Notorious B.I.G.

[SunZoo]

Nah Jay was/is better lyrically

Big just had a way more potent delivery/voice.

 

[Metal Face]

why is Nas in this convo of JAY vs BIG

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

Pun on Capital Punishment
Nas on It Was Written
Prodigy on Hell on Earth
those 3 are closest not named Hov i’ve heard to Biggie

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

Lupe is more skilled then nas imo

I used to think this but after Nas run these last few yrs..hell no

 

[Pop123]

Big Lupe supporter, but this is insane. Nas is clearly a better lyricist

Lupe is more skilled then nas imo

 

[iamduval]

Biggie knew Jay was better than him

 

[RasNas]

Everyone knows Jay wouldn't be shyt without Big

 

[prince_peoples]

Imagine if big had more time, look at what he did at his age with only two albums.

 

[mikishere]

why is Nas in this convo of JAY vs BIG

this, then we got nikkas in here derailing the thread saying nas impacted the culture recently because they heard spicy (a song that never charted) once during the nba playoffs

 

[The War Report]

Big’s flow is what put him on top. Combine that with his vocals and the way he would paint pictures.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Nas tried to make records like big/Jay and has never succeeded when trying

Nas is more creative like I said he was Lupe fiasco of the 90s

Lupe did Nas better than Nas since.

This is wild. If you want to argue Biggie and Jay were better at making those records than Nas fine, most people would agree with that. But let's not act like Nas never succeeded at those records. Hate Me Now is clearly one of those records, and probably would have been a Biggie record if he had lived. Nas Is Like too. And if we go back further you can't deny If I Ruled The World was clearly the type of shyt Biggie/Diddy were doing at a high level. Street Dreams and The Message too. Nas showed an ability to make those records. A better criticism would be that he stopped trying to make those records at some point and it hurt his career.

Do I think Nas and Lupe (and Eminem) have some similar music autism where they don't care about production or structure to the detriment of the song at times? YES. But let's be really clear: Nas has multiple hit records that he created. Lupe's hits were literally given to him by Atlantic, with no creative input from him beyond the verses. And if we look at non-commercial shyt...nah. I'll give Lupe credit for releasing a good album with T&Y but he's largely been trash since The Cool.

 

[Surreal]

Lupe is more skilled then nas imo

 

[King Kai]

Big is Hov's biggest influence so I don't think he'd take this comment as a slight anyways

 

[TheWiseWon]

Big’s flow is what put him on top. Combine that with his vocals and the way he would paint pictures.

Biggie had the talent to transition into screenwriting if given enough time.

 

[Awesome Wells]

B.I.G. actually thought Jay was better than him, and said so a lot to the people around him.

But I don’t think Jay was ever on B.I.G.'s level either. So SP is right.