Subliminal Shots in hip hop

[FreshAIG]

"Who would ever, ever ,ever make a nikka try me
What you think something tangy bout Mase I see
What it take for blood to clog nikkas IVs
For cats to sit back and think bout me
Now why you, better yet how you
Be a light skinned nikka that get found sky blue
Either all summer long you been ducking Piru
Or half y’all cats just scared to by blue
Wit Mase your rival, Mase is liable
Put Blink beside you, then tape and tie you
Rape and hide you, in the lake they find you
With no prints cops cant trace what I do" - Mase going at Jay-Z

 

[FreshAIG]

Cam'ron - Let Me Know

First verse going at Jay-Z:

"Damn it's a miracle, thought y'all was veterans
Wish your flow was ill huh?
Mine was your medicine
Now you're in the game
Lame sound the best you've ever been
Play right I'll catch you late night nikka like Letterman
Get thirty thou now your actions begun
Actin and fun nikka after taxes you're done
Cars impounded, New York must stop bitin and start writin
And start malice
When the fukk we start bouncin?"

Second verse going at Drag-On

"Yo I get dough any way
I can flow any way
Yo you rap about money, man, who are you anyway?
C'mon, all my jewels ice and gray
And nikka might I say
I'm Mister Rogers status, change twice a day
Any beef you let me know, I'll be there right away
And when I'm rhyming, I've always got the right of way
I got some cats that'll come down here right away
To take your ass right away
Believe me you could die today
We explode and bullets we reload and killers speak in code
So please let me know"

Third verse going at Mase:

"You the type of cat, wanna marry your lover
And to the end of earth for her like Mario Brothers
Better carry your rubber
Now you done this street, Me I gun this V
Somethin to see, and man, ain't nothin to me
Not my man, not my style
Not my fam, not my pal
Not my clique, not my type
Hell no we not alike
You get knocked, you sit in a cell
Get raped, bytch, and you yell
Turn homo, kiss and you tell
bytch nikka, walk with a switch nikka
Why you switch nikka?, talk high pitched nikka?"

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

I'm talking to you is about multiple people, mostly lil flip.

TI going at Shawty Lo and Luda in the umma do me remix

Thesee nikkas talking cane, but they pockets clean
We spendin money getting money nuttin in between
Chasin a hundred mil ain't gon let nuttin intervene
Respect da hustle bustas gon do dat by any mean
Ay dis I really mean put dis on anything
Dey say I start a lot of shyt I say I finish things
Jus like sum dental cream I go in nikkas mouth
And like da limousine I stretch a nikka out
Dis ain't watchu want now u betta take a different route
I ain't bankhead bytch nikka wat is dis about
Use to be bowing when u c me oh we dissin now
Ay stop da music listen dude I come get witcha now
But once dem hammaz seen u know it's not a dream
We handlin thangs jus like holla mean naw mean
You hearin sayin dat about me you hearin sayin it
New Orlean nikkas in ya face you ain't sayin shyt
Money you say u get 30 mil. in six yrs
Listen Forbes put me down for 20, dat was dis year
And let's get dis clear
Jus between you and me
Dat apology was fa B.E.T not D.T.P
I'm doin me

 

[vino]

[Mase]
Yo, you cats never want no problem like we want it
When Harlem World doubled up, we put G's on it
I'm pushin' new 700 M.G.'s on it
And if you can't see the ice, that means my sleeve's on it
You know I dress as I'm suppose to
Stretch Lex with a shouffer
Never sober, red Testarossa, cherry Rover
Baguettes in my Jehovah
Me and Puff at the Grammy's, sittin' next to Oprah
(And the winner is)
What we hear is platinum that, platinum this
Platinum whips, nobody got no platinum hits
Cats know with me platinum always wrap my wrist
I come to the awards, quadruple platinum chicks
Little ones like twenty five, what cats get smacked with
Big ones like fourty five, what cats get clap with
I react sick whenever my dough ain't accurate
Harlem World, Jr. Mafia, yeah and that's it, come on


Mase dissing Jigga

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Nicki to Lil Kim
“Shoulda sent a ‘thank you’ note you lil’ hoe/Now I’ma wrap your coffin with a bow/(Nicki she just mad ’cause you took her spot)/Word that bytch mad ’cause I took the spot/Well, bytch, if you ain’t shyttin’ then get off the pot/I got some nikkas out in Brooklyn that’ll off your top.”


Ross to Jeezy
YA shyt PUSHED BACK CUZ IT AIN'T BUZZIN

 

[wire28]

[Verse 1]
I could spot you a mile away
I could see your insecurities written all on your face
So predictable your words, I know what you gonna say
Who you foolin'? Oh, you assuming you can just come and hang
With the homies but your level of realness ain't the same
Circus acts only attract those that entertain
Small talk, we know that it's all talk
We live in the Laugh Factory every time they mention your name

[Bridge]
Askin' "where the hoes at?" to impress me
Askin' "where the moneybags?" to impress me
Say you got the burner stashed to impress me
It's all in your head, homie
Askin' "where the plug at?" to impress me
Askin' "where the juug at?" to impress me
Askin' "where it's at?" only upsets me
You sound like the feds, homie

[Hook] x2
You ain't gotta lie to kick it, my nikka
You ain't gotta lie, you ain't gotta lie
You ain't gotta lie to kick it, my nikka
You ain't gotta try so hard

[Verse 2]
And the world don't respect you and the culture don't accept you
But you think it's all love
And the girls gon' neglect you once your parody is done
Reputation can't protect you if you never had one
Jealousy (complex), emotional (complex)
Self-pity (complex), under oath (complex)
The loudest one in the room, nikka, that's a complex
Let me put it back in proper context

 

[HearNoEvil]

You're more about showing off, I'm more about show and prove
Ya'll braggin about so and so, like "Oh, he really it?
The new nikka in rap? Well, can he really spit?"
Or do he just hide behind his skits like half of these rappers do
And then ya'll fukking go and praise him and his bytch like they savior of this shyt
I'm like "Aw, man. Here we go"
I'm not the same man I was a year ago
I learned that life could be a merry-go

Big Sean trying to get at Kendrick. Boy Control just got you salty.

 

[DarkmanX]

Cam'ron - Let Me Know

First verse going at Jay-Z:

"Damn it's a miracle, thought y'all was veterans
Wish your flow was ill huh?
Mine was your medicine
Now you're in the game
Lame sound the best you've ever been
Play right I'll catch you late night nikka like Letterman
Get thirty thou now your actions begun
Actin and fun nikka after taxes you're done
Cars impounded, New York must stop bitin and start writin
And start malice
When the fukk we start bouncin?"

Second verse going at Drag-On

"Yo I get dough any way
I can flow any way
Yo you rap about money, man, who are you anyway?
C'mon, all my jewels ice and gray
And nikka might I say
I'm Mister Rogers status, change twice a day
Any beef you let me know, I'll be there right away
And when I'm rhyming, I've always got the right of way
I got some cats that'll come down here right away
To take your ass right away
Believe me you could die today
We explode and bullets we reload and killers speak in code
So please let me know"

Third verse going at Mase:

"You the type of cat, wanna marry your lover
And to the end of earth for her like Mario Brothers
Better carry your rubber
Now you done this street, Me I gun this V
Somethin to see, and man, ain't nothin to me
Not my man, not my style
Not my fam, not my pal
Not my clique, not my type
Hell no we not alike
You get knocked, you sit in a cell
Get raped, bytch, and you yell
Turn homo, kiss and you tell
bytch nikka, walk with a switch nikka
Why you switch nikka?, talk high pitched nikka?"

Has he said the 2nd verse was about Drag? I know i've heard some lines that i felt was going at Drag on Cam's 2nd album, but the lines you quoted seems very general. Dont see what in those lyrics would specifically be aimed at Drag, unless im missing somethin.

I know about the 1st @ Jay tho with that "bounce" shyt that Jay was doing around '98.

 

[DarkmanX]

[Mase]
Yo, you cats never want no problem like we want it
When Harlem World doubled up, we put G's on it
I'm pushin' new 700 M.G.'s on it
And if you can't see the ice, that means my sleeve's on it
You know I dress as I'm suppose to
Stretch Lex with a shouffer
Never sober, red Testarossa, cherry Rover
Baguettes in my Jehovah
Me and Puff at the Grammy's, sittin' next to Oprah
(And the winner is)
What we hear is platinum that, platinum this
Platinum whips, nobody got no platinum hits
Cats know with me platinum always wrap my wrist
I come to the awards, quadruple platinum chicks
Little ones like twenty five, what cats get smacked with
Big ones like fourty five, what cats get clap with
I react sick whenever my dough ain't accurate
Harlem World, Jr. Mafia, yeah and that's it, come on


Mase dissing Jigga

How is this a Jay-Z diss? What line in the song is a diss? Some of yall be reaching.

I bet its cuz Jay-Z went at Mase on "Ride Or Die" quoting some of the lines from this verse right? If so, then its still doesnt make THIS a diss. Theres not even a line in it going at somebody. But yeah Jay went at Mase quoting some of those lines.

 

[FreshAIG]

How is this a Jay-Z diss? What line in the song is a diss? Some of yall be reaching.

I bet its cuz Jay-Z went at Mase on "Ride Or Die" quoting some of the lines from this verse right? If so, then its still doesnt make THIS a diss. Theres not even a line in it going at somebody. But yeah Jay went at Mase quoting some of those lines.

Nah that's a Jay diss from Mase. The Platinum That, Platinum this was a shot at Jay-Z who was constantly rapping about wearing Platinum but not having any Platinum albums. Both Jay and Mase acknowledge this as a diss. Jay even said on Flex the line kinda hurt him at the time because his album had only went Gold.

 

[vino]

How is this a Jay-Z diss? What line in the song is a diss? Some of yall be reaching.

I bet its cuz Jay-Z went at Mase on "Ride Or Die" quoting some of the lines from this verse right? If so, then its still doesnt make THIS a diss. Theres not even a line in it going at somebody. But yeah Jay went at Mase quoting some of those lines.

Platinum this platinum that and nobody got any platinum hits. That was to Jay. Jay z always talked about platinum but his albums at that time were only gold.

 

[FreshAIG]

Has he said the 2nd verse was about Drag? I know i've heard some lines that i felt was going at Drag on Cam's 2nd album, but the lines you quoted seems very general. Dont see what in those lyrics would specifically be aimed at Drag, unless im missing somethin.

I know about the 1st @ Jay tho with that "bounce" shyt that Jay was doing around '98.

He went at Drag because Drag was sending subliminals to him at the time and they were going back and forth because people said they sound alike. I guess 16 years later, that can read kinda general, I feel you, but if you were listening to their songs and freestyles back then it seemed pretty much like a "Calm down little nikka before I do you dirty" verse. I guess it's one of those you had to be around during the tension to feel it.

 

[AJtheOne]

That party and bullshyt will get your ass popped
Don't believe me? Ask fam (Cam)
That got his ass shot

Cam'ron was shot during an attempted carjacking in Washington, D.C. on October 22, 2005. He was driving a blue Lambourghini and, according to friends, wore $200,000 worth of jewelry, when a burgandy SUV pulled up alongside him. An armed man jumped out, and while Cam'ron attempted to speed away, fired into the car, hitting the rapper in both arms.

After the shooting, when asked for a quote while leaving Howard University Hospital, Cam'ron famously said "I got shot three times and my album comes out November 22."

maybe but alot of rappers get shot, so that line can be about anybody
would make a lil more sense if he got shot at a party

Nah 50 says names and replaces it all the time.

When the song dropped there was a unofficial video and it had a pic of camron the when he said it

brehs its "ask fab, that got his ass shot"

he's talkin bout fabulous after fab got shot, remember

 

[AJtheOne]

A lot of people think this was aimed at Puff but I still think this was aimed at P also. Dude always rocked the Versache with those glasses (remember I Got The Hook Up and the girl was like "diamonds in you glasses?) and talked about how much bread he had, how he had all the whips, how he sold hella coke etc.


I spit that other shyt
That's the nice motherfukker shyt
Fed time follow me around, deep cover shyt nikka
You beer money, I'm all year money
I'm popping, you ain't got to count it, it's all there money
I never change money 'cause nikkas got strange money
Knocked up, marked up, fukked up in the game money
I got bail money, XXL money
You got flash now, one time we'll reveal money
I spit the hottest shyt, you need it I got it shyt
That down South Master P, Bout It Bout It shyt
I got blood money, straight up thug money
That brown paper bag under your mattress drug money
You got show dough, little to no dough
Sell a bunch of records and you still owe dough
I got 900 and 96 plus 4 more dough
You crazy, you full gazy, and loco with dough papo

I always thought imaginary player was dissin Mase

or maybe even Nas

 

[DarkmanX]

He went at Drag because Drag was sending subliminals to him at the time and they were going back and forth because people said they sound alike. I guess 16 years later, that can read kinda general, I feel you, but if you were listening to their songs and freestyles back then it seemed pretty much like a "Calm down little nikka before I do you dirty" verse. I guess it's one of those you had to be around during the tension to feel it.

Yeah i know about what people said at the time about them sounding alike and such. I understand ur point too but that isnt something thats been confirmed or anything by either one, right?