Subliminal Shots in hip hop

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i remember hearing irv gotti/ja rule interview i think it was juan epstien
but i remember him saying saying jay z sayin
"the R-O-C-, aint no "i" in that"(murder I-N-C)
dont recall the song
 

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Now that I'm here nikkas wanna wrap the ROC up
Nah, backslash wrap the rocks up, back the block up
Cop killers, clap at coppers, blast at choppers
Pass the vodka, listen, don't ever mention Dash or Hoffa
It's a Harlem thing dog, you'll clash with Mobsters

Cam getting at Nas.

And what's crazy about this sub. Nas hosted a Flex mixtape (big truck series 4) and did a intro for this very song. I found that weird when I heard the tape. Why is Nas bigging up Cam when he clearly dissed him in the 1st few bars? I was like :wtf: then I figured Nas never heard the record. I always wondered was this the reason Nas went at Flex & Cam in his epic radio rant:ohhh:
 
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Growing up, I was told that the verse in Machine Gun Funk -

So you wanna be hardcore
With your hat to the back
Talking about the gats in your raps
But I can't feel that hardcore
Appeal that you're screaming


Was aimed to Nas.

Is this true ?
 

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This one has always been debated
DMX-Party up in here (@ Kurrupt or Eminem?)
nd I don't know who the fukk you think you talkin to but I'm not him, aight slim?
So watch what you do


off the name First of all, you ain't rapped long enough to be fukkin with me
and you, you ain't strong enough
So whatever it is you puffin on that got you think that you
Superman
I got the Kryptonite, should I smack him with my dikk and the mic?
Y'all nikkaz is characters, not even good actors
What's gon' be the outcome?
Hmm, let's add up all the factors
You wack, you're twisted, your girl's a hoe
You're broke, the kid ain't yours, and e'rybody know
Your old man say you stupid, you be like,
"So? I love my baby mother, I never let her go
"I'm tired of weak ass nikkaz whinin over p*ssy that don't belong to them,
fukk is wrong with them?



i think it was a response to this

Eminem -Forget About Dre
I don't give a fukk if it's dark or not(dark man X)
I'm harder than me tryna park a Dodge
But I'm drunk as fukk
Right next to a humongous truck in a two car garage
Hopping out with two broken legs tryna walk it off
fukk you too bytch call the cops
I'ma kill you and them loud ass motherfukking barking dogs



Or


Mothafukk D
Mothafukk M
Only X i know is xzibit or rbx
Extraordinary, trynna snatch my bytch
You can have the bytch
, two bytches gettin' rich
Just to come to the west coast and get stripped down
Beat to death and stripped, all over a bytch
 

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Growing up, I was told that the verse in Machine Gun Funk -

So you wanna be hardcore
With your hat to the back
Talking about the gats in your raps
But I can't feel that hardcore
Appeal that you're screaming


Was aimed to Nas.

Is this true ?

idk im trying to think of a rapper from that time that always had his hat to back & rapped about guns
ghost/raekwon maybe?
 

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idk im trying to think of a rapper from that time that always had his hat to back & rapped about guns
ghost/raekwon maybe?

Tbh i think that was a general diss line but to no one in particular. Plus i'd guess that Machine Gun Funk is one of the joints recorded at the time of Uptown Records, where the production was different & even Biggie's voice & style was a bit different. Dont think he was familiar with Ghost & Rae when he did those records, and depending on when it was recorded Wu Tang may not have been OFFICIALLY out just yet.

I just think its a general line to rappers who do that.

@ the DMX "Party Up" line:

Been discussed since then. Crazy how time flys. Think its a reach that it was at Eminem though. Eminem was new (on the scene). What made people think it was Em the most was the "slim" thing, especially since white folks dont know that slim is a old ass slang term.

I'd say it was at Kurupt & some say it might've been towards Ja. But its either them 2.

But those 2 Em lyrics definitely sounded like a reference to X i remember. But i dont think it was. Maybe it was a reference but i dont know. Eminem was actually a fan of DMX at those times. Of course it doesnt mean rappers still dont diss each other, but i doubt it. Seems unreasonable, at least to us. Unless theres stuff behind the scenes that happened.
 

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Dmx-They want war (@ ja rule)

"Yo, you remember the first time we rocked sound stage
When the world was ready to let the dog out the cage?

Covered the whole crowd rocking from here to there
All you said was "throw your hands in the air!"

You'se a hype man nikka (What) I started you dude
You have bytches part of your crew that's harder than you

Let me tell you what nikkas in jail say across that table
That you are the cutest bytch on your label

Only records you got are the ones you signing on (la la la)
Never been to jail, never had a block you were slanging on
We all rode with killers just think

But you, come on dog, the only thing you murdered was inc
You got to watch the shyt you say to nikkas
Sitting over there smiling, but p*ssy, I don't play with nikkas
I'm about to make you a fukking believer
Next time send your man in your place cause I don't battle divas
 
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Dmx-They want war (@ ja rule)

"Yo, you remember the first time we rocked sound stage
When the world was ready to let the dog out the cage?

Covered the whole crowd rocking from here to there
All you said was "throw your hands in the air!"

You'se a hype man nikka (What) I started you dude
You have bytches part of your crew that's harder than you

Let me tell you what nikkas in jail say across that table
That you are the cutest bytch on your label

Only records you got are the ones you signing on (la la la)
Never been to jail, never had a block you were slanging on
We all rode with killers just think

But you, come on dog, the only thing you murdered was inc
You got to watch the shyt you say to nikkas
Sitting over there smiling, but p*ssy, I don't play with nikkas
I'm about to make you a fukking believer
Next time send your man in your place cause I don't battle divas

Thats different tho. That was a song aimed at Ja. So it was a diss song, not really subliminally diss lines.

Speaking of X, as Gotti said, Jay was subliminally going at X on Mic Geranimo's "Time To Build" from 1995.

"Verse 3: Jay-Z
Yeah, fresh on the scene-a with the fukking next nikkas demeanor
You know my work I bless and press more skirts then the cleaners
I'm damn relaxed cause you cats can't stress the G
Ain't a enough jump in 'em to make you high enough to test me
Gone, nikkas is moist like Duncan Hienz
Choice when I'm voicing my poise I got poison lines
So flame on I turn my game on the expert
nikkas get chills when you hear my name on the network
fukk what you nikkas kickin on the mic
You chicken like you don't know what an ass whippin feels like
I'm living flashbacks, I blaze nikkas split like ass-cracks
It's the J to the A, smoother than jazz tracks, yeah
So when I'm browsing through your housing projects
nikkas get 5,000 shyt is rough
(Ruff)
Time to close I hit you with 16 of those
Next time maybe more, but who the fukk knows?"
 

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drake-charged up @ meek

I did some charity today for the kids
But I'm used to it cause all y'all charity cases
All y’all stare in my face in hopes you could be the replacement
nikkas snitching on us without no interrogation
I stay silent ‘cause we at war and I’m very patient
Six God is watching, I just hope you’re prepared to face him
I’m charged up, I’m charged up

[Verse 1]
Wow, I’m honored that you think this is staged
I’m flattered man, in fact, I’m amazed
The perfect start to the summer, man this shyt is a doozy
This shyt the twist in the movie but don't jump to conclusions
You boys are getting into your feelings on me
You should embrace it this could be one of our realest moments
Okay the flow’s starting to feel familiar, don’t it?
Must I remind you that Jimmy got 20 million on it
Need DJ Clue to drop a bomb on it
None of them want this shyt more than I want it
I seen it all coming, knew they were pushing buttons
Easter egg hunting, they gotta look for something
Done doing favors for people
Cause it ain’t like I need the money I make off a feature
I see you nikkas having trouble going gold
Turning into some so and so’s that no one knows
But so it go
Come and live all your dreams out at OVO
We gonna make sure you get your bread and you know the ropes
I get a ring and I bring it home like I’m Corey Joe
No woman ever had me star struck
Or was able to tell me to get my bars up

I’m charged up
Oh no we eating, nikkas ain’t about to starve us
Nah, nikkas ain't about to starve us
I'm charged up

[Verse 2]
I bought my nikkas rollies off of Thank Me Later
While these boys was stanky legging
Trust me this information is vital
I’m trying to take the high road
I still got love for my idols
I got me a deal with Apple and I still feel entitled
Rumor has it, there’s something that only I know
Rumor has it, I steer this shyt with my eyes closed
Rumor has it, I either fukked her(nikki) or I never could
But rumor has it, hasn’t done you nikkas any good

It’s sound, sound, sound ‘til the day I die
We going live to keep this shyt alive
Cops are killing people with their arms up
And your main focus is tryna harm us?
And you think you ‘bout to starve us?
nikkas ain’t about to starve us
Nah, I’m charged up

[Outro]
Have you seen me?
I’m doing so good
Everytime I leave
Oh, I’m so sorry (six)
 

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could be reaching...malik b on datskat

we blast off like launchers, launchin off the rockets
if you bugs, if you wack like plugs, you get pulled out of sockets
 
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