I think Kading's theories match up the best from what ive seen so far.
"Suge had nothing to do with 2Pac's Death" - Stormey Ramdhan
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I think Kading's theories match up the best from what ive seen so far.
yep, not only Lil Cease and Eugene, but D-Roc, and security guard for Bad Boy described Amir as the shooter.........
the rhyme king
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and the reason why the poochie thing is bullshyt because numerous witnesses said they saw the shooter as being muslim at that party so where people are getting this poochine nikka from is completely bullshyt imo.
not only that but d-roc said he seen david mack standing outside the doit or as they were going inside the party
so it wasn't just amir it was the entire lapd helping amir pull this thing off if it was just poochie doing this they would have been caught dude a long time ago.
No they really didn't. That documentary was complete bullshyt fam
Interview: Former L.A.P.D. Detective Says He Knows Who Killed The Notorious B.I.G. | Complex
“The name Amir Muhammad was published in the Los Angeles Times as a suspect in Biggie’s murder. One of the biggest problems in the whole Biggie Smalls murder investigation was that there never was [any mention of] Amir Muhammad.
“There was a jailhouse informant in L.A. county jail named Michael Robinson, who provided this very problematic slew of different descriptors of the shooter. But he never mentioned an Amir Muhammad, he just put down the name Amir.
“Actually, Robinson said there was a guy named either Abraham, Ashmir, Amir, Kenny, or Keke. So we actually got fivedifferent names associated with this potential shooter. Then he gives all these other descriptions; He’s this Fruit of Islam guy, he’s from Compton, and all of these different descriptors of the shooter.
There was all this exaggeration of information, and a whole theory was built on it, which never had a basis but captured the popular imagination.
“Coincidentally, there’s a whole other investigation going on behind a rogue cop named David Mack who had robbed a bank. Russell Poole—the L.A.P.D. investigator, who was investigating Biggie’s murder—finds out about David Mack. There’s these very circumstantial indicators that maybe this rogue cop was involved [in Biggie’s murder]. Coincidentally, Mack has a friend named Amir Muhammad. That circumstantial connection, put this investigator down a rabbit hole.
“Now, if Russell Poole would have been responsible with that clue, he would have known that Amir Muhammad a.k.a. Harry Billups could not have been the person that was being discussed in that clue. Harry Billups had no association with Compton, no association with Crips, and no association with the Fruit of Islam.
“All of these supporting identifiers disqualify him as a possible suspect. The only thing that Russell Poole has to hold onto is simply four letters: A-M-I-R. That’s it. That’s the only thing that has ever been even circumstantially compelling. And it’s based on Russell Poole’s inability to properly treat a clue. He finds one name: A-M-I-R, and builds a whole theory behind that, because there’s a dirty-cop who has a friend named Amir.
“There was all this exaggeration of information, and a whole theory was built on it, which never had a basis but captured the popular imagination. Actually, the individual who brought that information to the L.A.P.D. recanted and said, 'I made it all up. It was all bullshyt.’
“Remember, Michael Robinson never says any cop [was involved with the murder]. All the clue is, is an Amir. If you take selective information and you ignore the information that refutes your theory, you can put together a conspiracy theory and convince people of it. You’re just selecting the information that works for you.
“The L.A.P.D. always knew the problems with Russell Poole’s theory. They knew his jailhouse informants were discredited, they were unreliable, and they were lying. The L.A.P.D. knew that there was no basis whatsoever to [Poole’s] theory. Even though the public picked up on it and [author/journalist] Randall Sullivan was running with it, with his book LAbyrinth, and Russell Poole had convinced himself that it was such, the L.A.P.D. knew there was nothing behind it.”
drugxglory
Street Struck
Just got caught up in some bullshyt after a Tyson fight
Shoulda shot who? Orlando Anderson
To think all this time I thought he said "Suge"
infamousred
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i was going to post 2 blogs from jsonline.com that completely chronicled each killing down to a t. for some reason they are no longer available? here's the link to the 2pac one i had posted before(that no longer works)
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/169460476.html
the biggie one said that poochie was indeed the killer and both of the blogs were the most in depth i've ever seen on the subjects.
here's the 2nd best thing since i can't find either of those anymore:
The 'Keffe D' Tapes: 10 Highlights of Confession From Gangster Who Says Sean Combs Hired Him to Kill Tupac | The Informer | Los Angeles | Los Angeles News and Events | LA Weekly
biggie was pay back for 2pac simple and plain. on top of that i don't buy suge having anything to do w/ 2pac's murder not only for the simple fact that he was the biggest artist at deathrow, but more importantly...if you look at the pictures of the bmw...there's one certain part near either the front of the vehicle or the actual windshield where you can see the one shot that orlando sent at suge. you know the one that people say is fake but frank alexander says he actually saw himself? orlando's aim was pretty fukking bad considering all the shots that he let off at 2pac and only hit him w/ a few, but the one that was going for suge could've ended him.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/169460476.html
the biggie one said that poochie was indeed the killer and both of the blogs were the most in depth i've ever seen on the subjects.
here's the 2nd best thing since i can't find either of those anymore:
The 'Keffe D' Tapes: 10 Highlights of Confession From Gangster Who Says Sean Combs Hired Him to Kill Tupac | The Informer | Los Angeles | Los Angeles News and Events | LA Weekly
biggie was pay back for 2pac simple and plain. on top of that i don't buy suge having anything to do w/ 2pac's murder not only for the simple fact that he was the biggest artist at deathrow, but more importantly...if you look at the pictures of the bmw...there's one certain part near either the front of the vehicle or the actual windshield where you can see the one shot that orlando sent at suge. you know the one that people say is fake but frank alexander says he actually saw himself? orlando's aim was pretty fukking bad considering all the shots that he let off at 2pac and only hit him w/ a few, but the one that was going for suge could've ended him.
infamousred
All Star
what's always been more important to me is...how much of a "coincidence" is it that both times puffy was involved? the first time it was from people extorting bad boy and supposedly puffy wanted 2pac to join bad boy and he refused. next time is when a well publicized beef with bad boy is going on. anyone remember the 2 of amerikaz most wanted video w/ the fake big n puffy where biggie thinks 2pac is pulling out a gun and he really pulls out a cig? "please don't kill me, it was puffs idea"
matter of fact here it is:
matter of fact here it is:
Nino Soprano
Superstar
Suge baby mama is fine
Just how I like em
Just how I like em
the rhyme king
truth.com
what's always been more important to me is...how much of a "coincidence" is it that both times puffy was involved? the first time it was from people extorting bad boy and supposedly puffy wanted 2pac to join bad boy and he refused. next time is when a well publicized beef with bad boy is going on. anyone remember the 2 of amerikaz most wanted video w/ the fake big n puffy where biggie thinks 2pac is pulling out a gun and he really pulls out a cig? "please don't kill me, it was puffs idea"
matter of fact here it is:
puffy was being extorted breh he was just following suit
yeah that Poochie guy came out of nowhere... and Suge's Ex put it on him, because Poochie is dead, so the LAPD wouldnt investigate it further
the rhyme king
truth.com
exactly my dude meanwhile david mack is still alive and so is suge and amir rafael perez.
I don't think so, it's the version that makes the most sense. There is also an interview of Jimmy Henchman in vibe at later reused for the book queens reigns supreme, where he speaks about meeting tupac at the mtv awards in 96 and basically telling him to shut the fukk up or he was going to have him shot again.
Bad Boy had Tupac shot for running his mouth and possibly ruining their business, suge had biggie shot in retaliation.
Keffe D: "We met the boy [Combs] at the -- he gave a BET party, or the BET awards, its like '92 or '93, at the club on Santa Monica. And uh, Mary J was [there]. And the tall dude, used to have the dreads, he's with Aftermath now, what's his name?"
Federal agent: "Busta Rhymes?"
Keffe D: Busta Rhymes. ... Me and him almost got in a fight. I was suited ... He thought he was all big shyt. I was all, 'We going to beat the fukk out of that boy.' He threw his drink on me, and I was like, 'Motherfukker!' Yeah, that's the first day I met Puff [Combs]. ... And after that they used my car in the video."
Detective Dupree: "Which car was that?"
Keffe D: "A '64 Chevy I had."
Detective Dupree: "What color was it?"
Keffe D: "Brown. "Usher, he had Usher... It was Usher's video, and Puff [Combs] was driving the car."
Detective Dupree: "You remember the song?"
Keffe D: "'Can I Get With It.' That was his first song ever -- Usher's first song ever. He was in a Lakers uniform, and [Combs] had the little kid dancing on the car. When I got it back, it was fukked up, and he paid to get it repainted. He sent me $2500 for that."
Federal agent: "Busta Rhymes?"
Keffe D: Busta Rhymes. ... Me and him almost got in a fight. I was suited ... He thought he was all big shyt. I was all, 'We going to beat the fukk out of that boy.' He threw his drink on me, and I was like, 'Motherfukker!' Yeah, that's the first day I met Puff [Combs]. ... And after that they used my car in the video."
Detective Dupree: "Which car was that?"
Keffe D: "A '64 Chevy I had."
Detective Dupree: "What color was it?"
Keffe D: "Brown. "Usher, he had Usher... It was Usher's video, and Puff [Combs] was driving the car."
Detective Dupree: "You remember the song?"
Keffe D: "'Can I Get With It.' That was his first song ever -- Usher's first song ever. He was in a Lakers uniform, and [Combs] had the little kid dancing on the car. When I got it back, it was fukked up, and he paid to get it repainted. He sent me $2500 for that."