SUPERMAN by James Gunn (OUT now)

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Oh you're back? What happened to the source you were going to share about the supposed quality of the film? :jbhmm:

Uh, I never said I had a source about the quality of the film. I said it did not look good, and and the hype is low. And I still believe that. But, I do wonder what your excuse will be if Superman isn't a hit???


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The superhero renaissance happened post Superman returns. MOS was in the thick of it when things were good. I mean in the same year that MOS dropped Iron man 3 made a billy.

This also was the height of executive greed and Avengers and TDKR did a Billy alone with IM3.

It was a hard sell on a reboot, Batman, IM3, and Avengers, Spider-Man, are all ATM machines.

Anyone not them is hitting 400-500 Milly...

Superman Returns and MoS were 600 Milly films. Even the Donner films didn't crack a Billy adjusted for today's dollars.
 
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I don't know if it'll be a hit or not but I see MAGA is already crying to their viewers about it :mjlol: @jay211 probably watches shows like this...



I'm bout to pre-order IMAX tickets just to hear people bytch. Superman has been an illegal immigrant since Fred Trump was a slum lord. Somebody should have sterilized him back then
 

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This also was the height of executive greed and Avengers and TDKR did a Billy alone with IM3.

It was a hard sell on a reboot, Batman, IM3, and Avengers, Spider-Man, are all ATM machines.

Anyone not them is hitting 400-500 Milly...

Superman Returns and MoS were 600 Milly films. Even the Donner films didn't crack a Billy adjusted for today's dollars.
How does a Superman V Batman film not crack a billy then in their first cinematic outing ever? Bear in mind that you said it yourself that Batman himself made a billy twice on his own. It’s because Snyder tainted that pool that Nolan had cleansed after Batman and Robin. Also Superman the movie adjusted for inflation is definitely a billy, where did you get your info?

 

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I'm bout to pre-order IMAX tickets just to hear people bytch. Superman has been an illegal immigrant since Fred Trump was a slum lord. Somebody should have sterilized him back then
Really wish Gunn shut the fukk up about this movie being political, the last thing you want is to give fukking grifters any excuse to jump on the hate wagon and misusing the word “woke”.
 

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How does a Superman V Batman film not crack a billy then in their first cinematic outing ever? Bear in mind that you said it yourself that Batman himself made a billy twice on his own. It’s because Snyder tainted that pool that Nolan had cleansed after Batman and Robin. Also Superman the movie adjusted for inflation is definitely a billy, where did you get your info?


I stand corrected, I was using Superman II's numbers by mistake and got 700 million. The OG Superman in the 70s made a billion, which was an outlier event since it was the first major Superman movie, no other Comic Book Competition/Fatigue, and the GA was comprised of Greatest Generation/Baby Boomer comic fans who were locked in to the property. Parts 3 and 4 were unmitigated disasters and took decades to bring him back to the big screen.

In 2025, GA just isn't into him as GenX, Millennials, Gen Z, would spend money on any other property but Supes....

Numbers don't lie.

As for BvS, WB rushed and tried to make Avengers DC version and crashed. It didn't crack a Billy because there was no build up(and the fan backlash of Affleck as Batman also didn't help). The result would have been the same if we did Iron Man and just went to Avengers without any of the other setup films.

Also WB waited almost a decade to reboot Batman to cleanse the horrible stench of B&R from the GA's nose ..
 
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