Support for Democrats Crash To A 35 Year Low - WSJ Poll

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Controlled opposition.


always was always will be.


that's why because their would be base hates them and smart enough to realize they are not doing shyt.

and all the GOP as to do is throw a few bones to make the racist cacs not realize their

retarded and broke as shyt as well.




other words we need this timeline to get nuked into a black hole and never return.
 

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The worse republicans are, the more people blame democrats for not doing something about them.

which is crazy to me

The Democrat party is inclusive and made up of a coalition of different ethnic groups and people. They have a much harder task at messaging because as a pro-civil rights, egalitarianist party they are beholden to and held to a much harsher standard then their right wing counterparts. Republicans are good at viscious bigoted messaging because they have no responsibility to anyone but rich billionaires and white yee haw racist conservatives, and most people are too politically inept ro recognize that. This dichotomy easily fools masses of "me me me" dumbasses just desperate to be on the wrong side of history, like @the cac mamba abovr into believing that supporting basic civil rights is somehow "crashing out for others." It makes sense if you have the intellect and humam empathy of a toddler.

With that said the party is in desperate need of new bold leadership. They dont need to throw trans people or immigrants or black activism or latinos or whoever the next person believes the party is "crashing out" for under the bus. Because why vote for the diet Republican Party when you can have the real thing. They need to stand on the right side of history, stand up for policies for the working class, and simply forget about decency and decorum at this point.

They need to go out there and match Trumps energy. play a lil dirty. Make an immature spectacle over everything you do. Make it known to the public what the party is actually doing instead of just attacking the other side for what they're doing. Get at Trump. Not about bad policy, or fascism, or democracy, or some intellectual shyt. I shouldnt have to wait for an episode of South Park to finally feel heard. The fact Democrats aint shouting from the rooftops that the President is clearly a damn pedophile is a disgrace. Because you best believe if Joe Biden was this close with Epstein down to love letters, Republicans and Fox News would have no problem announcing to the world that he is a creepy predator on a daily basis. I need Democrats to actually hate their opponents.
 

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The worse republicans are, the more people blame democrats for not doing something about them.

which is crazy to me
I don't think it's crazy. The democrats are proving completely inept at dealing with this crisis or learning from their past mistakes. Instead they double down on what got them in this position in the first place: failed centrism, gerontocracy and politics of decorum.
Chuck Schumer saying they wrote Trump a very sternly worded letter in reaction to him burning down democracy and rule of law encapsulates everything that is wrong with their approach to doing politics, so it's understandable that people lose patience.
 

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The worse republicans are, the more people blame democrats for not doing something about them.

which is crazy to me
Yep, thats America in a nutshell for like the last 30 or so years.

That death spiral is going to just accelerate.
 

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New Jersey’s electric bills tripled this summer — and could cost Dems the state​


It’s now costing her more than $1,000 a month to keep her modest home running.

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Poll finds NJ is split on who to blame for rising electricity rates​

 

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New Jersey’s electric bills tripled this summer — and could cost Dems the state​


It’s now costing her more than $1,000 a month to keep her modest home running.

i had to get the fukk outta the northeast. these dark blue, total Dem control states are just raping taxpayers at this point. it's obscene
 

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i had to get the fukk outta the northeast. these dark blue, total Dem control states are just raping taxpayers at this point. it's obscene
I can't understand why Dems don't believe in lower taxes for constituents. Who the hell wants to pay all that money in taxes and receive basically nothing in return. I could see if these places we're so much better than red states. But their almost always much worse.
 

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I can't understand why Dems don't believe in lower taxes for constituents. Who the hell wants to pay all that money in taxes and receive basically nothing in return.
because their priority is giving huge promises and pensions to the public unions, who turn around and donate to the Democrats. a disgusting, corrupt cyle that leaves taxpayers and property owners holding the bag; someone has to pay for it
 

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I can't understand why Dems don't believe in lower taxes for constituents. Who the hell wants to pay all that money in taxes and receive basically nothing in return. I could see if these places we're so much better than red states. But their almost always much worse.
Because they’re literally stupid I see it everyday in a blue city and state. They’re just fukking dimwitted stupido fuks with money. Keep up mucho fukkery in “urban areas” to say - what about the less fortunate see? Everybody goes “aww”.
 

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The Democrat party is inclusive and made up of a coalition of different ethnic groups and people. They have a much harder task at messaging because as a pro-civil rights, egalitarianist party they are beholden to and held to a much harsher standard then their right wing counterparts. Republicans are good at viscious bigoted messaging because they have no responsibility to anyone but rich billionaires and white yee haw racist conservatives, and most people are too politically inept ro recognize that. This dichotomy easily fools masses of "me me me" dumbasses just desperate to be on the wrong side of history, like @the cac mamba abovr into believing that supporting basic civil rights is somehow "crashing out for others." It makes sense if you have the intellect and humam empathy of a toddler.

With that said the party is in desperate need of new bold leadership. They dont need to throw trans people or immigrants or black activism or latinos or whoever the next person believes the party is "crashing out" for under the bus. Because why vote for the diet Republican Party when you can have the real thing. They need to stand on the right side of history, stand up for policies for the working class, and simply forget about decency and decorum at this point.

They need to go out there and match Trumps energy. play a lil dirty. Make an immature spectacle over everything you do. Make it known to the public what the party is actually doing instead of just attacking the other side for what they're doing. Get at Trump. Not about bad policy, or fascism, or democracy, or some intellectual shyt. I shouldnt have to wait for an episode of South Park to finally feel heard. The fact Democrats aint shouting from the rooftops that the President is clearly a damn pedophile is a disgrace. Because you best believe if Joe Biden was this close with Epstein down to love letters, Republicans and Fox News would have no problem announcing to the world that he is a creepy predator on a daily basis. I need Democrats to actually hate their opponents.
Two things can be true - Democratic malfeasance contributed heavily to the situation we’re in AND you should have voted for Harris considering the alternative. As someone who has voted Democrat my entire life I’ve become highly disillusioned with the party for many reasons. They have unfortunately made it easy for bad faith actors to do the both sides thing causing millions to become disaffected and say a pox on both houses - even if the more discerning understand Republicans are far worse

Lockstep support of Israel even as the vast majority of their base now objects

Unending support of our bloated military budget

Members of leadership- Biden,Hillary supporting the Iraq War which they knew was based on lies

Fealty to donor interests over substantive policies that help the masses (not band aid shyt. After 40 years of trickle down economics the country needs bold policy proposals not tinker around the edges “nothing will fundamentally change” shyt).

Adopting right wing views on immigration as a reactionary attempt to blunt conservative criticism instead of making the case that immigration is not the cause of societal ills and is largely Republican fear mongering to stop the finger from being pointed at the true culprit oligarch take over of society.

Etc.

It’s playing out now with Mamdani. Despite polling indicating the base overwhelmingly supports his policy proposals, despite the Dems having a 19% approval rating and despite 62% of Democratic voters wanting new leadership- oh and despite a historic primary win they have been lukewarm at best and hostile at worst to him. This is because their corporate interests are against him due to the fact that he obviously wants to tax them more. He’s also very clear about his feelings on the tragedy in Gaza. This is a non starter to many of them. So instead of taking this gift they’ve been given (50,000 volunteers!!!) throwing their support behind him (vote blue no matter who right) and trying to repeat it they will fight him every step of the way.

Meanwhile Harris campaigned with Liz Cheney to chase the elusive Never Trumper Republican vote - which netted her basically no additional Republican voters than Biden. Republicans by and large vote Republican. The focus should have been on disaffected Democrat leaning voters and new ones. Whatever Republicans you get is gravy. Ever notice how Republicans NEVER try to pick up Democratic voters? Instead they demagogue Democrats every chance they get.

There is a reason 18-44 now has a positive view of socialism. It’s because they understand their future has been taken by 40 years of trickle down, trillions spent in wars of choice, wages not meeting productivity and numerous other things. They feel the political process has let them down and they want a new direction.

Whether the establishment even likes Mamdani is largely irrelevant. I haven’t liked any of the candidates that won the primary post Obama. I still dutifully voted blue no matter who. Now that the shoe is on the other foot these same types do what they always do- fight progressives harder than Republicans. And that’s because they want to kill the baby in the womb as far as there being a surge in interest in progressive candidates. There is no other explanation as to why a party in such abysmal shape politically doesn’t look towards one bright spot it’s gotten in a long time. That has energy, enthusiasm youth support support across various demos. Problem is that candidate is open about what he believes is the cause of most current societal ills - the oligarch take over of this country.

My belief is that after Trump is done with this country and finished selling and hollowing it out, only a massive transfer of wealth top down will have any chance at starting to right the ship - if it’s even possible at this point and we’re not on some last days of Rome shyt. Who is going to fight for that? Schumer? Pelosi? Jeffries. Only way out is a reduction in power and wealth for those that have stolen from the nation for so long.

The proper lesson to learn is that we’ve lost 2 out of 3 to an idiot and the other was due to a once in a lifetime pandemic. Maybe time to at least try something different. Couldn’t be worse than these outcomes.

I used to balk at the idea that they would rather lose than win with a progressive but I think that should be clear to all but the most non critical devotees at this point.
 
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