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You're using a guilt by association fallacy to dismiss my OP because of an imaginary connection with Tariq Nasheed.:dead:

These persuasive tactics of yours are invalid :scust:


like the politrix used by conservatives to cause rifts between different ethnicities that vote democratic

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people always think the grass is greener on the other side, but American whites are actually good people compared to other groups around the world :manny:

Only in America can a 12% minority protest like they did on a holiday no matter the injustices associated. America is the GOAT country. plus, most americans try to be kind and non-racial
 
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I don't have any measuring stick on racism but so many posters here and real life think they fux with us when they don't
I know first hand because I was fukking with this Hispanic chick in HS, when her moms found out she beat shyt out of her.
 

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There are only about 10 or so statements but they are random, which implies representation. There are studies which conclude high racial resentment amongst Mexicans toward blacks, so the established science using more subjects and more complex methodology basically says the same thing as my (admittedly) flawed observation. As such, you shouldn't dismiss what OP says.


Breh I can probably find 10 random statements from Hispanics who are in full support of blacks and as much against racism and injustice as any of u. Would that be representative too?
 

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Sure, but there are African Americans who agree too. The proportions are wildly different for each group though, which is what's important to remember here.

It doesn't matter why they are how they are; all that matters is that they are the way they are. It makes no more sense to question the motivations of a racist than it does to question the motivations of an alligator. The normal Mexican state is to hold disdain for blacks just as the normal alligator state is to hunt antelope.

I do know better and most of the condoslidated data points to the same thing. Your reply is basically *feel good anecdotes and fallacies*, which don't stand to numbers.

There are no allies outside the Carribean and nearby population areas. Mexicans and people like them are no allies, if LA, science and statistics has anything to say about it. Base your assertions on facts, not bullshyt and illusions. It is no more efficacious to talk to Mexicans than cacs. Given the economic and social repercussions, there's no reason to support illegal immigration, which Mestizo Hispanics overwhelmingly benefit from.

You know, I think it has become clear that your politics are essentially a brand of fascism. You support patriarchy and the subjugation of women (and try to pass it off as a natural state of affairs); you support the suppression of class struggle and believe an economy of hierarchy is natural and desirable; and you support the primacy of the idea of race and racial/national unity over all else. You have no conception of the idea of intersectionality and how different oppressions interact.

Wikipedia entry on class collaboration said:
Class collaboration is one of the main pillars of social architecture in Fascism. In the words of Benito Mussolini, fascism "affirms the irremediable, fruitful and beneficent inequality of men."[2] Given this premise, fascists conclude that the preservation of social hierarchy is in the interests of all classes, and therefore all classes should collaborate in its defense. Both the lower and the higher classes should accept their roles and perform their respective duties.

In fascist thought, the principle of class collaboration is combined with strong nationalism. The stability and the prosperity of the nation was seen as the ultimate purpose of collaboration between classes.

My politics don't come from "feel good anecdotes and fallacies," but rather the scientific analysis of how society is structured and how it operates. From this, it is clear that the working-class is the historical agent of change under capitalism, and that working-class unity is necessary to fight racism, sexism, imperialism, etc. Indeed, overcoming capitalism is the only way for these things to be eradicated. So when working-class people - especially working-class people of Color - are divided over bullshyt racism and other lowest common denominator, divisive ideas and ideologies, I can recognize them for what they are and not engage in tit-for-tat nonsense. If these working-class Mexicans, who you claim are "stealing" Afrikan jobs (but you curiously never, ever point to the capitalists who exploit everyone :mjpls: another sign of your fascist tendencies), were united with working-class Afrikans - since both groups are in the same boat - that would be a serious threat to the :win:/capitalist power structure. And if white working-class people ever got their heads out their asses and realized racism is just a divisive ideology that keeps the ruling class in power, it would be a wrap.

So I have no reason to get down in the gutter with your anti-human, racist, and sexist drivel. Neither does any other working-class or decent Afrikan. Racism is wrong because it is racism, not just because you happen to be the victim of it.
 

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people always think the grass is greener on the other side, but American whites are actually good people compared to other groups around the world :manny:

Only in America can a 12% minority protest like they did on a holiday no matter the injustices associated. America is the GOAT country. plus, most americans try to be kind and non-racial

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Sooo...are you guys willing to protest at demonstrations against illegal immigration or are you just going to continue getting chippy about it online and behind closed doors?
 

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Breh I can probably find 10 random statements from Hispanics who are in full support of blacks and as much against racism and injustice as any of u. Would that be representative too?

The statements are not random in the sense I picked them up on the internet; they are just randomly selected within the sample, which lends legitimacy to the conclusion. Finding random statements on the internet doesn't mean anything. You need to find a similar Mexican leaning sample as well as a similar context. If you can find 10 random examples of Hispanic (Mexican leaning) supporting blacks in this sample or another like, I will concede, but everything points to replication and generalization across the group. Not every generalization is untrue by the virtue of being a generalization.

Now, in this sample, there is no more or less reason to think the Mexicans should show more or less disdain thanwhites. In my opinion the average Hispanic comment seems more virulent than the whites' (you may look at the Facebook post yourself for confirmation) ), which is what scientists have found to be the case as far as bias and resentment is concerned too. The fact random labs correlate with what I found is eerie and presupposes the observation is true.
 
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