Swedish Multiculturalism Goes Awry

[Type Username Here]

For the record, I don't think that Islam is the reason for this. Let me specify: there is nothing in the texts that advocates this. Most Muslims I encounter are the opposite of what is being portrayed here.

That being said, I feel religious devotion, mixed with lack of education and coupled with secularism is a dangerous mix. I'd argue that Israel is experiencing this with Orthodox Jews. Hell, there are Orthodox Jews only towns in the state of NY that receive massive benefits yet are constantly hostile.

 

[88m3]

that phrase is sorta out of context in a socialist environment.

But about the article.. we are HL, so we have eyes everywhere and assume everything.
Realistically, We don't know how the Muslim community feels about the police in their neighborhood or how they are treated. I know that when I see a cop roll down my street, I get uncomfortable - so we know that cops aren't the heroes in every situation (neither is the government). A little girl who is fukked at night by her stepdad... also is taken to private school, fed good food (besides the dikk), taken to the hospital, given shelter and given everything she needs to survive by that Stepdad... So is she supposed to be happy when she has a miscarriage at 12 years old because this a$$hole raped her then beat her?

I don't think so.. lets not act brand new about how the majority treats a minority group (they are only 5%) in areas that are concentrated w that minority group. NTM these are kids.. youth who are tearing shyt up there. If they can see fukkkery at young ages... Then it's worth considering that the situation may be more complicated than.... (ENTER whatever Chris B. says and u all Cosign)

We have the largest Arab population out side the middle EAst 15 min from where I live. They don't fukk w anyone but themselves. Signs are all written in Arabic.. madd mosque. No one is opening their mouths and taking giant shyts in them and telling them to be happy w shyt in their teeth- because they have a certain form of government to enjoy - so they stick to themselves and provide addition tax dollars for all to enjoy.

so basically all of u can gtfoh with all the BS know it all talk. We don't know about random ass Sweden.

No, it's not at all. If they don't want to live where they are, get jobs and move to another part of the city or country. They have plenty of resources and opportunities.

I'm not sure how incest relates to this... or how that can even be alluded to as the root cause for what is going on here.

Chris B. is a bigot and a troll.

These peoples parents are at fault.

I'll call a friend tomorrow if you want a first hand account.

Stockholm, Sweden isn't rural Asia or Africa it's not some gray area.

 

[Blackking]

Stick to topic please..got a problem with capitalism? start a new thread.

I'm still trying to figure out why someone will protest while living in free housing, gets free food and gets taken care of by the government.
What exactly is there to protest...the only wildcard here is Islam

So we can harp on the benefits of socialism that these Muslims have... but we can't mention capitalism or socialism? So basically ur trolling... Again.

So why hasn't this wildcard protested in the 70 80 or 90s? Why is it that Muslims in Sweden are just now coming to our attention.
Do you actually believe they are protesting because they are Muslim?
that's the only factor that you're brain can imagine?

Let's remember that this nation is low key antagonistic towards Muslim culture. If there is something they know for a fact would irritate a Muslim (orthodox) the citizens will do it. They will do something like draw a pic of Muhammad on the side of a Mosque with a dikk in his mouth... then say "I think u guys are overreacting".

The nation claims to be new age Collectivism and not socialist or capitalist. The are like Jesus which is y I put up the quote. The difference is Jesus didn't claim multiculturalism then turn around and place stigmas on certain cultures. And it's not like Sweden is some Utopia that you all are pretending it to be.
It's poorer, per person, than any one state in the US. The average person there is more economically fukked than the average black person in the US..... and we are on the bottom of the economy here.

NTM the place has the highest taxes in the world.. and doesn't promote creating businesses at all. Immigrants do good in places they can come in, set up shop and make cash. The don't do good in places like Sweden... especially when u combine that with the fact that Sweden has been featured with Vice as being one of the most racist craker ass craker arab hatting nations in Europe and possibly the world.

So we can hype of their socialist policies... and labor rights... but on their May day's Neo Nazis come out to riot.
I think these kids have other reason besides the Qur'an to riot.

 

[Blackking]

No, it's not at all. If they don't want to live where they are, get jobs and move to another part of the city or country. They have plenty of resources and opportunities.

I'm not sure how incest relates to this... or how that can even be alluded to as the root cause for what is going on here.

Chris B. is a bigot and a troll.

These peoples parents are at fault.

I'll call a friend tomorrow if you want a first hand account.

Stockholm, Sweden isn't rural Asia or Africa it's not some gray area.

point is, u can't say, they have everything and pretend like there aren't issues and underlying reasons why these kids rioted.

That's y I used to incest. The fact that the stepdad doesn't all this shyt and provides everything for the girl doesn't make it ok that he's fukking her.

 

[88m3]

Life isn't perfect, these people have been handed a silver spoon and yet still riot.

It's absurd to justify their behavior.

Your analogy is crude and wildly absurd.

Sweden =/ child rape

I'm too tired for this.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

But they are setting themselves up for failure by placing all the poor people/refugees in one place and basically let them have their own little society. Sweden is a large country, they should spread them around the entire country, give them a chance to become a swede.

THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING IDEA, BROTHER!

 

[88m3]

THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING IDEA, BROTHER!

It's ghastly

 

[Tikal]

Can any swedes chime in on this matter. Sounds like sweden lost if sharia law is taking over.

It's no where near that. Seems like you guys are getting you info from some right wing websites. But it is true that there is some tension and unemployment is higher for immigrants and second generation immigrants than "ethnic" swedes. Add that to the fact that in most cities they end up segregated a lot due to gentrification.

As far the riots and some of y'all blaming all the muslims reminds me of racist cacs saying all blck people are savages after riots that occur in black neighborhoods after police shots someone there.

 

[mbewane]

So anyone know why ol dude was walking around with a goddamn machete?

 

[Chris.B]

So we can harp on the benefits of socialism that these Muslims have... but we can't mention capitalism or socialism? So basically ur trolling... Again.

So why hasn't this wildcard protested in the 70 80 or 90s? Why is it that Muslims in Sweden are just now coming to our attention.
Do you actually believe they are protesting because they are Muslim?
that's the only factor that you're brain can imagine?

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The Muslims started running their mouth's after the numbers increased. These immigrants can go back to where they are from if the have it so bad in the west.

 

[Family Man]

There needs to be a policy by the west to prevent these Bronze Aged Barbarians from immigrating to their countries.
You muthaphuckas need to realize that Islam is incompatible with the modern world and pose a clear and present danger to civilization.

 

[Nascimento]

It's quite simple. "Multiculturalism" and religion have little to do with this.

Population of Sweden 1976: 8.2m ----> 2004: 9.1m (11 percent increase)
Number of employed in total during same period: 4.0-4.2m (stagnation)
Most recent youth unemployment (age 15-24) figure is 27.2 percent (April 2013).

Employment took a big dip in the early 90's with the recession. After recovering from that it was a booming economy in the early 2000's until the international financial crisis hit in 2009, but in reality employment had only clawed back to the same levels as before the recession. So over a period of more than 30 years we've had completely stagnant job growth. There's also been substantial cutbacks in welfare during all of this.

But there's more to this. It has been official policy (although not openly stated to voters ) to drive down real worker wages in Sweden since about 1985. This was uncovered in a TV-documentary ("Lönesänkarna") last year where journalists interviewed the officials responsible for implementing these policies -- public office holders, union representatives, economic scholars etc, in cooperation with prominent leaders in business and industry. Perhaps you'd expect this from right wing politicians but amazingly enough this was driven through by the Social Democrats. They openly admit that the goal was specifically to lower the wage share and increase the profit share in order to allow capitalists to invest into new businesses and job growth.

None of that shyt happened, except for workers making less money. The average monthly worker salary in manufacturing today would be 10k SEK higher at 35000 SEK if the trend up until early 1980's had been allowed to continue, which had essentially kept pace with productivity for more than 50 years. Wage share of revenues is now down to levels from the late 19th century. Unsurprisingly capitalists with their newfound gains chose to earn an easy interest from international capital markets instead of getting their hands dirty and actually creating someting new. That shyt takes real work and effort

The documentary received the silent treatment in news media.

In summary, trickle-down Reaganomics took hold here as well, and you can of course add automation and offshoring to the mess which is significant in Sweden's export-oriented economy. We're now reaping what we've sown, same as you. Anyone believe people start rioting if they are gainfully employed?

** Not enough jobs to go around. Lower wages --> lower demand for goods and services --> less work.
** Segregated communities, as daJungle has already explained well.
** Antagonism ensues -- nasty immigrants leeching benefits, stealing jobs / racism holding back people -- with Sweden Democrats fanning the flames.
** Civil strife occurs when people don't have shyt else to do with their time.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

This is not about Islam. This is about poor people in the hood tired of having nothing and tired of the police harassing them. There are kids of all religions in these riots, but they do all have one thing in common they are all poor, been placed in the ghettos of sweden by the social services so they can't integrate properly in society.

You always talk about revolution this and that, but when people really stand up against the system you bash them. Pathetic.

But sure, make this about Islam.

ehhhhhh, I'm muslim and I'll defend muslims where it's applicable but I can't cosign muslims immigrating to non-muslim countries and then expecting to be treated like something special.

The only thing a muslim should expect a host country to do is to let him/her practice Islam freely. Outside of that, they don't owe them anything. Last time I checked, they have no problems in that regard. If that isn't possible, then they should move. If they aren't allowed to leave, THEN that's oppression.

 

[Olu Dara]

ehhhhhh, I'm muslim and I'll defend muslims where it's applicable but I can't cosign muslims immigrating to non-muslim countries and then expecting to be treated like something special.

The only thing a muslim should expect a host country to do is to let him/her practice Islam freely. Outside of that, they don't owe them anything. Last time I checked, they have no problems in that regard. If that isn't possible, then they should move. If they aren't allowed to leave, THEN that's oppression.

Exactly where did I say they should be treated like something special? Read my post again breh.. I said this is not about religion at all

 

[yoyoyo1]

what the fukk is a gatestone institute?

looking at the site its some professional looking site with a bunch of slick racist articles on it

that being said, sweden is paradise and the only people who could ever ruin it are muslim immigrants. par for the course tbh