SWITCH: Top 60 Solo Artists In Terms Of Singles

[Wacky D]

As the "cosigner" let me jump in here

At the end of the day - it's Wacky's list. I applaud him for taking the time and effort to make it. Obviously, when judging things like "quality" and "impact" his subjective opinions are going to play a critical role.

If I were to do a list, or if @StillNotSoft were to do a list - 40 would be on there and Too $hort would be higher. Juelz wouldn't be on there (and at least for me) neither would Jim Jones.

We need to do a better job of defining the term "regional". Back in the early 90s hip-hop was mostly regional in that you could get all day air play from your local radio station but be ignored everywhere else. There were also distinctive sounds associated with different regions. At this point - the radio is largely identical nationwide and certain regions have lost their identity (NY is a prime example).

The Bay does still have a distinct sound (I'm basing this off listening to the latest E-40/Too $hort album - which sounds drastically different from everything else on the radio).

@StillNotSoft - I gotta disagree with you about Jay, Cam and AZ being regional artists when their first albums dropped. But then again - maybe we're using the term differently? I do agree with you that nationwide - most fans of the music would be able to identify E-40's singles over Juelz. That's just my opinion.

You also gotta wonder to what extent young fans nowadays are still rooting for their home teams?

since you want to jump back in as "the cosigner", would you care to acknowledge the reason he brought you up as the cosigner? he said you werent from the bay.....BUT YOU ARE......AND YOU CONVENIENTLY DIDNT ADDRES THIS.

e-40, nor his singles are as identifiable as juelz santana. lol.

the only e-40 single thats even identifiable years later to those who arent e-40 fans is "U & That". and hes the least identifiable person on that record, behind t-pain & kandi........and to go further, t-pain is the reason that the song is identifiable.

Cosignsns can't hurt he seem like a sensible poster to me....and stop it,u can't possibly think most of the sales from a platinum artist is coming from the bay,not even close....that math works for independent nikkas only who can eat very well in the bay.....but u gotta be kiddin me to think a gold or platinum bay artist is sellin majority of those albums in the bay....thing with the bay is u got people who are fans of bay area music bcuz of the sound with the heavy bass,funk sound and the game spittin and now hyphy who are not from the bay.......the bay area tag holds more weight then people give it credit for but all them sales ain't from the bay bruh....but from fans of the sound and the tradition....either way that doesn't define regional....now nikkas like JayZ with RD,Camron,AZ,them nikkas wuz local and went gold,Jada with his last album still went gold,I think big l went gold....40's name rang more bells than most of them nikkas early on as wuz the whole point of the controversy....if he wuznt gettin play outside the bay folks wouldna had to go out they way to hate on that man.

Even Jacka who is a bay staple put out a independent album that did decent but most of the sales ain't come from the bay....that's folk lore shyt possibly promoted by bay area nikkas as a pat on the back...but its obvious bullshyt...I did mine now name these bay area artist who wuz goin gold and plat that u think majority of the sales came from the bay.....yet other big name bay nikkas hot as hell in the bay couldn't sniff it or half of it in most cases


Casual fans may not think most of those e40 songs is classic outside of Tell Me When to Go and U and That.........but they damn sure don't think them Juelz songs is either and probaly wouldn't even know what the hell u talkin about if u bought up them songs....say Whistle Song and they gon say "Ying Yang twins?"....now ask about U and Dat Booty,ask about Tell Me when to go....and don't say the name of the artist and see who can identify the person behind the songs.....most people can tell u them e40 songs.....when's the last time u heard Whistle Song or Oh Yes on your radio stations coli...get in here,stand up....time to end this argument....when they come in here and bogard u with cosigns u might have to change shyt up,if u really "do it for the nikkas"...get in here yall

i didnt say anything was wrong with a cosign, but you seem to put too much stock in it.

i dont know what youre definition of most is. im not saying that a whopping 90% of bay area sales come from the bay area. but their homebase sales push them further than any other homebase in this game. and this has been an established well-known fact for practically 2 decades now. e-40 will tell you this himself. im sure hes already on record. i know for a fact that there are people from the bay who are on-record talking about this as this has been well-documented for the longest. theres articles and everything. i know youre a homer, but please dont tell me that youre a non-cognizant one.

these are the names youre listing? @ camron being local. you gotta be chitting me. jadakiss is not local. reasonable doubt wasnt local neither. nor was AZ when he was going gold. if big l went gold, it was off "the big picture" which was a posthumous release fueled off his untimely death. so if that went gold, that doesnt even count.

@ THE JACKA!!!!

trust me dog, nobody who isnt a fan of dude thinks of e-40's "tell me when to go" or "U & dat" as classics. nobody even remembers them aside from the white folks that still jam to "u & that". btw, i still hear "oh yes" & "the whistle song" on the radio and television actually. no sights of e-40.

@ THE JACKA!!!

 

[Still Benefited]

As the "cosigner" let me jump in here

At the end of the day - it's Wacky's list. I applaud him for taking the time and effort to make it. Obviously, when judging things like "quality" and "impact" his subjective opinions are going to play a critical role.

If I were to do a list, or if @StillNotSoft were to do a list - 40 would be on there and Too $hort would be higher. Juelz wouldn't be on there (and at least for me) neither would Jim Jones.

We need to do a better job of defining the term "regional". Back in the early 90s hip-hop was mostly regional in that you could get all day air play from your local radio station but be ignored everywhere else. There were also distinctive sounds associated with different regions. At this point - the radio is largely identical nationwide and certain regions have lost their identity (NY is a prime example).

The Bay does still have a distinct sound (I'm basing this off listening to the latest E-40/Too $hort album - which sounds drastically different from everything else on the radio).

@StillNotSoft - I gotta disagree with you about Jay, Cam and AZ being regional artists when their first albums dropped. But then again - maybe we're using the term differently? I do agree with you that nationwide - most fans of the music would be able to identify E-40's singles over Juelz. That's just my opinion.

You also gotta wonder to what extent young fans nowadays are still rooting for their home teams?

The only difference in those east coast dudes is that we had the source so u probaly heard of and they names got burn in them mags and that's all we had.......but u can't tell me outside the east coast nikkas wuz checkin for Camron,Az and Jayz and that 40 wuz regional.....nobody cared about RD when it dropped.....look at it this way,40 had hits with the click wich I'm not allowed to use in this thread.....and they introduced as E40 and the click....those click singles like Captain Save A Ho and Hurricane,scandalous can't be denied.....his name wuz definitly known even if he wuz known as the wack nikka we supposed to hate on back in the day....nobody would waste time hatin on a regional nikka

But yea that's a great point it wuz mostly regional back in the 90's especially in the east which is widley known....but they had the supreme advantage of controlling the media so dudes that were hot locally faces still got put in them mags and they still go spotlight in them mags,name got run in them mags.....but in reality outside NY people wuznt really fukin wit em like that at all.....let me just say this,if Murder Dog wuz the main music publication peoples entire perceptions of who wuz relevent and who the goats are would be completly different than they r today

Just think about all the east coast nikkas who's names ring bells to u that u should have no idea who they are but know of them bcuz u were a magazine reader back in the day....why the fuk do I know who Ali Vegas is?

 

[mobbinfms]

since you want to jump back in as "the cosigner", would you care to acknowledge the reason he brought you up as the cosigner? he said you werent from the bay.....BUT YOU ARE......AND YOU CONVENIENTLY DIDNT ADDRES THIS.

e-40, nor his singles are as identifiable as juelz santana. lol.

the only e-40 single thats even identifiable years later to those who arent e-40 fans is "U & That". and hes the least identifiable person on that record, behind t-pain & kandi........and to go further, t-pain is the reason that the song is identifiable.

I didn't address it b/c you did. And @StillNotSoft didn't question it. It wasn't a point of contention.

We have different opinions about Juelz Santana

U think U and Dat was bigger than Rapper's Ball? I know U and Dat had the commercial - but nobody was getting commercials back in 96.

The only difference in those east coast dudes is that we had the source so u probaly heard of and they names got burn in them mags and that's all we had.......but u can't tell me outside the east coast nikkas wuz checkin for Camron,Az and Jayz and that 40 wuz regional.....nobody cared about RD when it dropped.....look at it this way,40 had hits with the click wich I'm not allowed to use in this thread.....and they introduced as E40 and the click....those click singles like Captain Save A Ho and Hurricane,scandalous can't be denied.....his name wuz definitly known even if he wuz known as the wack nikka we supposed to hate on back in the day....nobody would waste time hatin on a regional nikka

But yea that's a great point it wuz mostly regional back in the 90's especially in the east which is widley known....but they had the supreme advantage of controlling the media so dudes that were hot locally faces still got put in them mags and they still go spotlight in them mags,name got run in them mags.....but in reality outside NY people wuznt really fukin wit em like that at all.....let me just say this,if Murder Dog wuz the main music publication peoples entire perceptions of who wuz relevent and who the goats are would be completly different than they r today

Just think about all the east coast nikkas who's names ring bells to u that u should have no idea who they are but know of them bcuz u were a magazine reader back in the day....why the fuk do I know who Ali Vegas is?

I copped RD a week after it dropped (along with It Was Written, Stakes is High, Nocturnal, and the AIDS compilation). Having BIG in your video was a big deal back then. No pun intended.

Captain Save A Ho was a 40 solo single (featuring the Click). Hurricane and Scandalous were huge for us in the Bay growing up - and got Rap City play - but I don't know how big they were in other parts of the country.

Great point about the magazines and the East Coast bias. Although, in the same way we were seeing Ali Vegas they were seeing E-40 and Too Short.

If Murder Dog had been the Source - we'd argue all day about who's the best emcees, Mac Dre, E-40 and Too Short

 

[Still Benefited]

I didn't address it b/c you did. And @StillNotSoft didn't question it. It wasn't a point of contention.

We have different opinions about Juelz Santana

U think U and Dat was bigger than Rapper's Ball? I know U and Dat had the commercial - but nobody was getting commercials back in 96.




I copped RD a week after it dropped (along with It Was Written, Stakes is High, Nocturnal, and the AIDS compilation). Having BIG in your video was a big deal back then. No pun intended.

Captain Save A Ho was a 40 solo single (featuring the Click). Hurricane and Scandalous were huge for us in the Bay growing up - and got Rap City play - but I don't know how big they were in other parts of the country.

Great point about the magazines and the East Coast bias. Although, in the same way we were seeing Ali Vegas they were seeing E-40 and Too Short.

If Murder Dog had been the Source - we'd argue all day about who's the best emcees, Mac Dre, E-40 and Too Short

Are u a fan of east coast rap?only way I could imagine u would consider purchasing RD just becuz biggie is in the video....if ur not interested in east coast rap a biggie cosign wouldn't mean much!and his name didn't ring bells like E40 nationally yet....and yes just the fact E40 is looked at like Ali Vegas to them just means east coast wuz ignoorant and nuthing more which 40 is on record saying......and it would be no contest really I could offer up Captain Save A Ho as a single but for whatever reason its considered a group single becuz the click is on it and the click is his group,even tho it wuz on the mailman album see what I'm working with here.....even without that I feel like it should be a no brainer.


@Wacky D I'm wavin the white flag now we will never see eye to eye on this one which is cool,ur perspective is just the exact opposite of mines....nobody cared about Camron back home,and when I got here nobody cared about him and thought he wuz sum new rapper wearing pink who signed to the Roc .....and the fact u think those juelz singles are bigger than those 40 songs I can't even fathom...haven't heard or seen thos esongs since the video fell out of rotation...but have seen tell me when to go on plenty of shyt and damn near every dance competion show,u and dat still be on the radio.....from a quality standpoint I just don't think its even close...popularity wise all around I don't think its close....we just won't see eye to ey.

 

[mobbinfms]

Are u a fan of east coast rap?only way I could imagine u would consider purchasing RD just becuz biggie is in the video....if ur not interested in east coast rap a biggie cosign wouldn't mean much!and his name didn't ring bells like E40 nationally yet....and yes just the fact E40 is looked at like Ali Vegas to them just means east coast wuz ignoorant and nuthing more which 40 is on record saying......and it would be no contest really I could offer up Captain Save A Ho as a single but for whatever reason its considered a group single becuz the click is on it and the click is his group,even tho it wuz on the mailman album see what I'm working with here.....even without that I feel like it should be a no brainer.


@Wacky D I'm wavin the white flag now we will never see eye to eye on this one which is cool,ur perspective is just the exact opposite of mines....nobody cared about Camron back home,and when I got here nobody cared about him and thought he wuz sum new rapper wearing pink who signed to the Roc .....and the fact u think those juelz singles are bigger than those 40 songs I can't even fathom...haven't heard or seen thos esongs since the video fell out of rotation...but have seen tell me when to go on plenty of shyt and damn near every dance competion show,u and dat still be on the radio.....from a quality standpoint I just don't think its even close...popularity wise all around I don't think its close....we just won't see eye to ey.

Huge fan of East Coast. I remember liking Jay right away as a result of the Dead Presidents video.
@Wacky D - you should count Captain Save a Ho as a solo single, because it was a solo single!

I don't recall ever hearing a Juelz Santana record on the radio or in any club - but i wasn't really listening to the radio back then. And I was up on Cam right away. I remember how disappointing that first album was.

 

[Wacky D]

The only difference in those east coast dudes is that we had the source so u probaly heard of and they names got burn in them mags and that's all we had.......but u can't tell me outside the east coast nikkas wuz checkin for Camron,Az and Jayz and that 40 wuz regional.....nobody cared about RD when it dropped.....look at it this way,40 had hits with the click wich I'm not allowed to use in this thread.....and they introduced as E40 and the click....those click singles like Captain Save A Ho and Hurricane,scandalous can't be denied.....his name wuz definitly known even if he wuz known as the wack nikka we supposed to hate on back in the day....nobody would waste time hatin on a regional nikka

But yea that's a great point it wuz mostly regional back in the 90's especially in the east which is widley known....but they had the supreme advantage of controlling the media so dudes that were hot locally faces still got put in them mags and they still go spotlight in them mags,name got run in them mags.....but in reality outside NY people wuznt really fukin wit em like that at all.....let me just say this,if Murder Dog wuz the main music publication peoples entire perceptions of who wuz relevent and who the goats are would be completly different than they r today

Just think about all the east coast nikkas who's names ring bells to u that u should have no idea who they are but know of them bcuz u were a magazine reader back in the day....why the fuk do I know who Ali Vegas is?

this is ridiculous. the source covered everybody.

the same way you know ali vegas thru the source, is the same way a new yorker knows mac minister.

the only gripe you should have against the source is their mic ratings. also, lets not act as if the source was the only prominent rap magazine in the '90s.

no, none of the new york artists you mentioned were regional. at least not when they were getting plaques. only name you were on point with was big l but that was a posthumous

I didn't address it b/c you did. And @StillNotSoft didn't question it. It wasn't a point of contention.

We have different opinions about Juelz Santana

U think U and Dat was bigger than Rapper's Ball? I know U and Dat had the commercial - but nobody was getting commercials back in 96.




I copped RD a week after it dropped (along with It Was Written, Stakes is High, Nocturnal, and the AIDS compilation). Having BIG in your video was a big deal back then. No pun intended.

Captain Save A Ho was a 40 solo single (featuring the Click). Hurricane and Scandalous were huge for us in the Bay growing up - and got Rap City play - but I don't know how big they were in other parts of the country.

Great point about the magazines and the East Coast bias. Although, in the same way we were seeing Ali Vegas they were seeing E-40 and Too Short.

If Murder Dog had been the Source - we'd argue all day about who's the best emcees, Mac Dre, E-40 and Too Short

your location was indeed in question. if somebody says "wacky d isnt from philly", im gonna let it be known that im indeed from philly. bottom line is, you fell back out of convenience. im not making a big deal out of it, but i made sure that i point things like this out. youre in here with the bul, so it needed to be known to the thread-viewers.

"U And That" was indeed bigger than "rappers ball". but was it better than 'rapper's ball"? hell no. case in point, i dont even get into all that 'this song was bigger' talk. "player's ball" helps e-40's case in this thread, while "U and That" actually hurt his standing. thats why im laughing at notsoft constantly bringing that wack chit up. it wasnt even a hit because of e-40 anyway.

i didnt know "captain save a ho" was a solo single. props. thats still doesnt get him on the list tho.

Are u a fan of east coast rap?only way I could imagine u would consider purchasing RD just becuz biggie is in the video....if ur not interested in east coast rap a biggie cosign wouldn't mean much!and his name didn't ring bells like E40 nationally yet....and yes just the fact E40 is looked at like Ali Vegas to them just means east coast wuz ignoorant and nuthing more which 40 is on record saying......and it would be no contest really I could offer up Captain Save A Ho as a single but for whatever reason its considered a group single becuz the click is on it and the click is his group,even tho it wuz on the mailman album see what I'm working with here.....even without that I feel like it should be a no brainer.


@Wacky D I'm wavin the white flag now we will never see eye to eye on this one which is cool,ur perspective is just the exact opposite of mines....nobody cared about Camron back home,and when I got here nobody cared about him and thought he wuz sum new rapper wearing pink who signed to the Roc .....and the fact u think those juelz singles are bigger than those 40 songs I can't even fathom...haven't heard or seen thos esongs since the video fell out of rotation...but have seen tell me when to go on plenty of shyt and damn near every dance competion show,u and dat still be on the radio.....from a quality standpoint I just don't think its even close...popularity wise all around I don't think its close....we just won't see eye to ey.

its not about seeing eye-to-eye. you just cant admit that e-40 is largely a regional artist. and instead of coming to grips with that, you try to tear down other artists.

dog, "aint no niqqa" was bigger than any e-40 single ever. lol @ jay not being known nationally in '96. i dont know if you just werent really around back then or if youre just looking at rap from a very small scope. jay's name was synonymous with foxy brown when foxy was a huge name. also, he was getting daytime spins on MTV, while e-40 wasnt getting any play outside of rap city. double lol @ him not being as known as e-40.

we gonna act like dipset wasnt big in california now? i understand that the bay area is seperate from the rest of the state in regards to alot of the stuff that they do & listen to, but dam.

i didnt know "captain save em" was a solo single. yall are just now correcting me on this. the difference between me & you is that i'll take it under consideration. meanwhile, when i correct you, you ignore it and go back to saying the same chit 3 posts later......and then again 6 posts later after i correct you a 2nd time. bullchit like that i dont respect.

I don't recall ever hearing a Juelz Santana record on the radio or in any club - but i wasn't really listening to the radio back then. And I was up on Cam right away. I remember how disappointing that first album was.

whats the point of saying that you never heard juelz on the radio, only to turn around and say that you werent listening to the radio back then?

 

[Still Benefited]

this is ridiculous. the source covered everybody.

the same way you know ali vegas thru the source, is the same way a new yorker knows mac minister.

the only gripe you should have against the source is their mic ratings. also, lets not act as if the source was the only prominent rap magazine in the '90s.

no, none of the new york artists you mentioned were regional. at least not when they were getting plaques. only name you were on point with was big l but that was a posthumous



your location was indeed in question. if somebody says "wacky d isnt from philly", im gonna let it be known that im indeed from philly. bottom line is, you fell back out of convenience. im not making a big deal out of it, but i made sure that i point things like this out. youre in here with the bul, so it needed to be known to the thread-viewers.

"U And That" was indeed bigger than "rappers ball". but was it better than 'rapper's ball"? hell no. case in point, i dont even get into all that 'this song was bigger' talk. "player's ball" helps e-40's case in this thread, while "U and That" actually hurt his standing. thats why im laughing at notsoft constantly bringing that wack chit up. it wasnt even a hit because of e-40 anyway.

i didnt know "captain save a ho" was a solo single. props. thats still doesnt get him on the list tho.



its not about seeing eye-to-eye. you just cant admit that e-40 is largely a regional artist. and instead of coming to grips with that, you try to tear down other artists.

dog, "aint no niqqa" was bigger than any e-40 single ever. lol @ jay not being known nationally in '96. i dont know if you just werent really around back then or if youre just looking at rap from a very small scope. jay's name was synonymous with foxy brown when foxy was a huge name. also, he was getting daytime spins on MTV, while e-40 wasnt getting any play outside of rap city. double lol @ him not being as known as e-40.

we gonna act like dipset wasnt big in california now? i understand that the bay area is seperate from the rest of the state in regards to alot of the stuff that they do & listen to, but dam.

i didnt know "captain save em" was a solo single. yall are just now correcting me on this. the difference between me & you is that i'll take it under consideration. meanwhile, when i correct you, you ignore it and go back to saying the same chit 3 posts later......and then again 6 posts later after i correct you a 2nd time. bullchit like that i dont respect.



whats the point of saying that you never heard juelz on the radio, only to turn around and say that you werent listening to the radio back then?

East coast nikkas know Mac Minister for his music? since whenim pretty sure everybody who read mags knew Alivegas wuz supposed to be the second coming of Nas whether they wanted to or not,now ask them same dudes about Mac Minister before he caught the murder rap......and u tellin me u heard those nikkas killin the radio don't suprise me,first of all if every song I name u can remember exactly how much it got played just tells me nothing more than u were on the east coast at the time.....shyt wasn't gettin that kinda play everywhere where u would remember it wuz gettin played that much........All I'm sayin is what u tellin me about what got and play and what 40 songs didn't get play goes against what I've been told by other posters and folks in real life...I'm sorry I can't just take your perspective as "correcting me".....I don't want no fake consideration,if u willing to consider Captain Save A Ho and still won't put 40 on the list then this convo should be a wrap......that shyt is a damn anthem and the title has spanned 20 yrs without a better word for a nikka who saves bytches...and u wanna compare them juelz santanna singles to them.....hey I threw in the white flag what else u want its your list.....u will be receiving calls from "the nikkas" who this list is for tho,just realize that.

 

[mobbinfms]

your location was indeed in question. if somebody says "wacky d isnt from philly", im gonna let it be known that im indeed from philly. bottom line is, you fell back out of convenience. im not making a big deal out of it, but i made sure that i point things like this out. youre in here with the bul, so it needed to be known to the thread-viewers.

"U And That" was indeed bigger than "rappers ball". but was it better than 'rapper's ball"? hell no. case in point, i dont even get into all that 'this song was bigger' talk. "player's ball" helps e-40's case in this thread, while "U and That" actually hurt his standing. thats why im laughing at notsoft constantly bringing that wack chit up. it wasnt even a hit because of e-40 anyway.

i didnt know "captain save a ho" was a solo single. props. thats still doesnt get him on the list tho.

You are really reaching here trying to impute some ulterior motive on my part about where I'm from. Let me go through it again. He said he thought I wasn't from the Bay. You corrected him. He accepted your correction. At that point there is no issue anymore. If he had challenged you about it it would have been the first thing i said in my reply. I didn't fall back out of convenience or to somehow bolster his argument through omission. I didn't address it because to do so would have been repetitive.

Also - I hope you've realized that while I've agreed with him about some things I've also disagreed with him. For example - on whether any of those NY rappers were regional. I don't have an axe to grind with you. I call it like I see it.

Also - at this point - I don't think anyone else is paying attention to this thread.

Finally - if you weren't counting Captain Save A Ho you may want to take another look at the rankings. That's a classic song that birthed slang and literally defined the west's approach to women. You East Coast cats may have been tricking at the time - but not on the West. Although - Big L was a notable exception - he wouldn't give a chick ten cents to put cheese on a whopper - you know - when he wasn't starving hem until their ribs were showing. RIP.

 

[Wacky D]

East coast nikkas know Mac Minister for his music? since whenim pretty sure everybody who read mags knew Alivegas wuz supposed to be the second coming of Nas whether they wanted to or not,now ask them same dudes about Mac Minister before he caught the murder rap......and u tellin me u heard those nikkas killin the radio don't suprise me,first of all if every song I name u can remember exactly how much it got played just tells me nothing more than u were on the east coast at the time.....shyt wasn't gettin that kinda play everywhere where u would remember it wuz gettin played that much........All I'm sayin is what u tellin me about what got and play and what 40 songs didn't get play goes against what I've been told by other posters and folks in real life...I'm sorry I can't just take your perspective as "correcting me".....I don't want no fake consideration,if u willing to consider Captain Save A Ho and still won't put 40 on the list then this convo should be a wrap......that shyt is a damn anthem and the title has spanned 20 yrs without a better word for a nikka who saves bytches...and u wanna compare them juelz santanna singles to them.....hey I threw in the white flag what else u want its your list.....u will be receiving calls from "the nikkas" who this list is for tho,just realize that.

and what songs do you know ali vegas for?

lol @ you going back to this weak @$$ "you hear it because youre on the east coast" argument when nothing that i said in my previous post even pertained to the east. i was talking national chit. and newsflash: IVE LIVED OUTSIDE OF THE EAST COAST AS WELL. im not even concerned with radio spins like that anyway. i dont understand why youre even playing yourself like this.

when i say i corrected you, im referring to you babbling about stuff that you had no clue about. for instance, you butchered juelz' catalog all thru this thread. i'd correct you about your fact being wrong, and then you would go back to saying the same ole chit a few posts later.

You are really reaching here trying to impute some ulterior motive on my part about where I'm from. Let me go through it again. He said he thought I wasn't from the Bay. You corrected him. He accepted your correction. At that point there is no issue anymore. If he had challenged you about it it would have been the first thing i said in my reply. I didn't fall back out of convenience or to somehow bolster his argument through omission. I didn't address it because to do so would have been repetitive.

Also - I hope you've realized that while I've agreed with him about some things I've also disagreed with him. For example - on whether any of those NY rappers were regional. I don't have an axe to grind with you. I call it like I see it.

Also - at this point - I don't think anyone else is paying attention to this thread.

Finally - if you weren't counting Captain Save A Ho you may want to take another look at the rankings. That's a classic song that birthed slang and literally defined the west's approach to women. You East Coast cats may have been tricking at the time - but not on the West. Although - Big L was a notable exception - he wouldn't give a chick ten cents to put cheese on a whopper - you know - when he wasn't starving hem until their ribs were showing. RIP.

youre right. i apologize for that bit about you not saying that youre from the bay. im used to people purposely not addressing certain chit on here. my bad.

yea, alot of people are reading this. it may just be us 3 posting in here now, but the views are still rising rapidly.

ive moved e-40 up on the honorable mentions list off the strength of "captain save em". just cant put him pass missy & noreaga to grab that 65th spot. moreso noreaga.

i'll deliberate a bit more on it tho.

 

[Wacky D]

these threads used to get heated champ.

 

[North]

33. Kanye West

 

[Wacky D]

33. Kanye West

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