Swizz Beatz >>>>>>>>>> Pete Rock and it's not even close

[bigbadbossup2012]

Hip hop was big business when Swizz came on the scene in 98. Cats were appealing to the lowest common denominator to cash in. He took advantage. His hair sounded good for the time, but didn't have legs. I was listening to Mecca today as well. shyt is amazing. If that's boring to you, I don't know what to say. We appreciate different things when it comes to hip hop.

lol YOU ACT LIKE SWIZZ CAME AND LEFT in a couple years. He's more relevant than pete ever was or will be

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Why? So he could sell out by copying Swizz' sound from the time and try to cash in on what was hot? Should he have made snap beats when D4l was hot? Should everyone just chase the latest fads? Or stick to what they do best and comes organically?

I think this should be done. But pete should have understood that about swizz. He was basically hating on swizz for not doing beatz the way he think they should be done,yet being super successful. He's a boring sore loser/hater.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Failure in what?
Sure it's art. McDonalds is cuisine too.
Also, you didn't fully respond to my post.

Failure at being as big as he wanted to be,which is why he was hating on swizz 98/99 run. Swizz was a producer don creating hits for jay. Helping blow dmx up to a quintuple plat artist,making eve a household name. While pete was just a remix guy sitting around mad

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Regardless of chart numbers,everybody know RR anthem made dmx. What ya'll want and love is blind made eve. Songs like good times is styles marquee song. Songs like i'm a hustla and hotel made cassidy. Who did pete make somebody? CL smooth,who else?

 

[pete clemenza]

I like Swiss but he ain't f*ckin' with Pete Rock.. the T.R.O.Y beat alone sh*ts on Swiss' entire catalog

 

[Tom Foolery]

Half the time swizz beatz tracks just sound like a bunch of noise smushed together.

 

[GeeEffKay]

all youre saying is he has more hits, which in no way equates to swizz being better PR

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

all youre saying is he has more hits, which in no way equates to swizz being better PR

All my opposers are saying is he made TROY. OR SAYING he made "classics" with reference to songs that were like lil camp fires compared to songs that were like forest fires by swizz beatz. nikkaz claiming RR anthem aint a classic. Hilarious.

 

[mobbinfms]

nikka please

Cassidy - I'm A Hustla
Nore - Banned From TV
Styles P - Holiday
Styles P - Good Times
DMX - Ruff Ryders Anthem
The bolded is the ONLY questionable one. nikka you been living in a cave or something?

So is every big hit a classic to you? Was Ladfy Taffy classic?

 

[mobbinfms]

So an opinion you pulled out your ass is more valuable than how a record actually performed in the streets. When i say hit,i', not just talking numbers. I remember what these records did to the people. Them pete songs are just songs YOU LIKE they meant and mean nothing. TROY was the shyt and a few others but his list of classic songs is shorter than swizz MUCH SHORTER

Again. Ladfy Taffy performed well in the streets. Ying Yang had songs that went hard in the club.
That Pete Has classics is not my opinion. Whether something is classic or not is not an opinion. Either it is or it isn't.

 

[mobbinfms]

A super producer based off what. What was super? And yes I still currently listen to flesh of my flesh and RR vol 1. FLames

Everybody sought out his beats. The term super producer didn't exist yet, of course, but he was the go to guy. This is a fact.

 

[mobbinfms]

So if swizz wants to create his art by sampling a keyboard's sounds,he's wrong. He has to take another's record,or he's less hiphop.? You keep saying swizz never made a classic album. That's debatable. But Pete rock sure has not.
Swizz produced the lion's share of this album which possesses more noteworthy songs than anything pete WILL EVER DO

# Title Songwriters Producer(s) Performer (s) Length
1 "Ryde Or Die" D. Styles, S. Jacobs, E. Jeffers, J. Philips, M. Smalls, E. Simmons DJ Clue, Duro

• Chorus: Styles P, Jadakiss & DMX
• Verse 1: Sheek Louch
• Verse 2: Jadakiss
• Verse 3: Styles P
• Verse 4: Eve
• Verse 5: Drag-On
• Verse 6: DMX

Samples "Head Banger" by EPMD feat. K-Solo and Redman and "One of Those Funk Things" by Parliament
4:01
2 "Down Bottom" M. Smalls, T. Gray, K. Dean Swizz Beatz

• Intro: Swizz Beatz, Drag-On, Juvenile
• Chorus: Swizz Beatz & Juvenile
• Verse 1: Drag-On
• Verse 2: Juvenile
• Verse 3: Drag-On

4:55
3 "What Ya Want" E. Jeffers, K. Dean Swizz Beatz

• Intro: Eve
• All verses: Eve
• Chorus: Eve & Nokio

4:21
4 "Jigga My nikka" S. Carter, K. Dean Swizz Beatz Jay-Z 4:34
5 "Takin' Money (Skit)" 0:40
6 "Dope Money" S. Jacobs, J. Phillips P. Killer Trackz Jadakiss & Styles P 4:23
7 "I'm A Ruff Ryder" D. Hall, K. Bruce Dave Hall Parlé 5:10
8 "Bug Out" E. Simmons, K. Dean Swizz Beatz DMX
Samples "Funky Worm" by Ohio Players
1:19
9 "Kiss of Death" J. Phillips, K. Dean Swizz Beatz Jadakiss 3:43
10 "The Hood" M. Smalls, D. Grant, J. Phillips Swizz Beatz

• Intro: Swizz Beatz
• Verse 1: Beanie Sigel
• Verse 2: Infa-Red
• Verse 3: NuChild
• Verse 4: Mysonne
• Verse 5: Drag-On

3:51
11 "Platinum Plus" J. Dupri, M. Betha, K. Dean Swizz Beatz

• Chorus: Jermaine Dupri & Cross
• Verse 1: Jermaine Dupri
• Verse 2: Cross
• Verse 3: Mase
• Outro: Cross

3:39
12 "Buff Ryder (Skit)" 0:33
13 "Do That shyt" E. Jeffers, K. Dean Swizz Beatz Eve 3:51
14 "Pina Colada" S. Jacobs, C, Rios, K. Dean Swizz Beatz

• Verse 1: Sheek Louch
• Verse 2: Big Pun
• Verse 3: Big Pun
• Verse 4: Sheek Louch

4:11
15 "Some X shyt" E. Simmons, K. Dean Swizz Beatz

• Intro, chorus & outro: Swizz Beatz & DMX
• All verses: DMX

4:47

Yes. Taking the programmed sounds from a keyboard is less hip hop. That whole keyboard sound was less hip hop. The whole basis of hip hop is sampling already existing songs.
Half of RR was blah.

 

[mobbinfms]

lol YOU ACT LIKE SWIZZ CAME AND LEFT in a couple years. He's more relevant than pete ever was or will be

That's not what I'm saying. His material didn't stand the test of time. And although he did fall off for a period, he remains relevant today because he makes hits.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

So is every big hit a classic to you? Was Ladfy Taffy classic?

naw

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Again. Ladfy Taffy performed well in the streets. Ying Yang had songs that went hard in the club.
That Pete Has classics is not my opinion. Whether something is classic or not is not an opinion. Either it is or it isn't.

lmao