Swizz Beatz >>>>>>>>>> Pete Rock and it's not even close

[mobbinfms]

I think this should be done. But pete should have understood that about swizz. He was basically hating on swizz for not doing beatz the way he think they should be done,yet being super successful. He's a boring sore loser/hater.

He's not a boring sore loser. He took a stand for the betterment of the culture he cares about. By your logic, anyone hating on the direction Macklemore is taking hip hop is also a boring sore loser.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Everybody sought out his beats. The term super producer didn't exist yet, of course, but he was the go to guy. This is a fact.

To rehash already popular songs so they could get burn in that NY so called real hiphop market? Damn sure wasnt a hitmaker

 

[mobbinfms]

Failure at being as big as he wanted to be,which is why he was hating on swizz 98/99 run. Swizz was a producer don creating hits for jay. Helping blow dmx up to a quintuple plat artist,making eve a household name. While pete was just a remix guy sitting around mad

Pete was already a legend in 98. It gets no bigger than that. Hip hop is not measured by commercial success.

 

[Whitty Hutton]

"Ruff Ryders' Anthem"

"Banned from T.V."

Money, Cash, Hoes
Down Bottom"
Love Is Blind"
Jigga My nikka"
"Girl's Best Friend"
Party Up (Up in Here
WW III"
Bigger Business"
"Hotel"
"I'm a Hustla"

Check on It"
(Beyoncé featuring Slim Thug)
"Touch It"
(Busta Rhymes)
"Upgrade U"
"Swing Ya Rag"
"On to the Next One"

Bring Em Out"

"Fancy"
New Day"

These beats have always been horrible. Jigga My Niqqa is just the Lox "Wild Out" beat at a lower pitch
And you seem to think that because Swizz beats are more "Get hype!!!" that they are actually better creations of music. Either way you and are ignored on site from this point on

 

[JillScottsHunny]

Why not make a Swizz Beatz appreciation thread? These two producers couldn't be anymore different.

Unless you just wanted to shyt on Pete Rock.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yes. Taking the programmed sounds from a keyboard is less hip hop. That whole keyboard sound was less hip hop. The whole basis of hip hop is sampling already existing songs.
Half of RR was blah.

Absolute nonsense. Hiphop consists of many different types of sounds and approaches. Swizz approach is HIS approach. If it was about doing things A CERTAIN way forever only,then it would have never evolved. In the end it's hot or it's NOT. hIPHOP STARTED IN PARK and was about moving the crowd and entertaining party like scenes. Swizz does that better than pete MUCH BETTER. Swizz is real hiphop.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

That's not what I'm saying. His material didn't stand the test of time. And although he did fall off for a period, he remains relevant today because he makes hits.

Trust me i'm sure RR anthem,money cash hoes, good times (i get high), down bottom etc will hype up crowds more than any pete rock song outside of TROY

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

He's not a boring sore loser. He took a stand for the betterment of the culture he cares about. By your logic, anyone hating on the direction Macklemore is taking hip hop is also a boring sore loser.

True definition of apples and oranges. No one's mad cause caclemore made that corny shyt. They're mad because his white privilege and gay cheerleading allows his bullshyt to get pushed on an uneven playing field.
Meanwhile alot of what black people wanted to do,was minimized or outright denied by the powers that be. Hell,lil brother was told their music was too intelligent,while they were pushing a great sounding song called "lovin it". Pete had just as much of a chance as swizz so it's a much different scenario. Both had connections. Swizz had his uncles,pete had his cousin heavy d. He was sour grapes cause swizz was blowing up. But swizz blew up fair and square on an even playing field,using his creativity. I agree pete's beats are more complex,but that doesnt mean they're better.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

These beats have always been horrible. Jigga My Niqqa is just the Lox "Wild Out" beat at a lower pitch
And you seem to think that because Swizz beats are more "Get hype!!!" that they are actually better creations of music. Either way you and are ignored on site from this point on

You sound like a bytch mad at a dude that cheated on her. Pull down your skirt. No one cares

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Why not make a Swizz Beatz appreciation thread? These two producers couldn't be anymore different.

Unless you just wanted to shyt on Pete Rock.

I told ya'll why in the original post. He was hating on swizz. that's why i'm showing the polarity

 

[mobbinfms]

I told ya'll why in the original post. He was hating on swizz. that's why i'm showing the polarity

But was he hating on him? Or criticizing his work? Criticism does not always equal hating. Please pull the original quote so we can put this to bed.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

But was he hating on him? Or criticizing his work? Criticism does not always equal hating. Please pull the original quote so we can put this to bed.

He was hating. Swizz responded in this mag,which i have but is put up somewhere.

 

[mobbinfms]

Regardless of chart numbers,everybody know RR anthem made dmx. What ya'll want and love is blind made eve. Songs like good times is styles marquee song. Songs like i'm a hustla and hotel made cassidy. Who did pete make somebody? CL smooth,who else?

In the long run, Cassidy and Eve don't matter. Swizz ain't make DMX.

 

[mobbinfms]

All my opposers are saying is he made TROY. OR SAYING he made "classics" with reference to songs that were like lil camp fires compared to songs that were like forest fires by swizz beatz. nikkaz claiming RR anthem aint a classic. Hilarious.

Make a thread with a poll about RR anthem. Again you are trying to boil everything down to commercial success with your fire analogy.

 

[mobbinfms]

To rehash already popular songs so they could get burn in that NY so called real hiphop market? Damn sure wasnt a hitmaker

Name some other producers from his era 90-94 where rappers from all across the country got beats from them. You are applying late 90s standards to the early 90s. You do know things were different right?