T.I Says No One Can See Him In A Verzuz Battle:"I Don't Care What Era They From"

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tip 20 is heavy man

 

[JustCKing]

It will and people will love it. It's one of his best songs. LOL.

It may be one of his best songs, but it winning depends on the audience. And if you're already saying it is in front of an NYC crowd, then you've already handicapped Busta.

 

[African Peasant]

Anarchy is again one of the worst eras of his career. When he dropped that, it wasn't what people wanted from Bus. Compare that to when Genesis dropped.

It went platinum and reached the N°1 spot in Hip-Hop chart. So, it's also what people wanted. Being less popular than Genesis does not mean it did not have a public.

Is it a surprise that a more fun/party orientated Busta have more commercial success?
Busta is multi dimensional. Being less successfully commercial does not make it less busta. It's still him.

 

[Solo_87]

And just because Rah Digga doesn't think it's a great idea, doesn't make it a mis match. Why STILL CONTINUE TO ARGUE THIS WHEN BUSTA HIMSELF DISAGREES?

This isn't rocket science. It has nothing to do with popularity. BUSTA HIMSELF THINKS ITS A GOOD MATCH.

Nikka I don't care what Busta thinks. TI believes he can beat J, Ye, Wayne. That means shyt. Busta is just tryna battle anyone at this point

Again the shyt is not ideal and I'm not alone in that thinking.... Agree to disagree if " Well Busta thinks..." is ur strongest argument

 

[African Peasant]

It may be one of his best songs, but it winning depends on the audience. And if you're already saying it is in front of an NYC crowd, then you've already handicapped Busta.

This is true for almost every song.

 

[JustCKing]

Nikka I don't care what Busta thinks. TI believes he can beat J, Ye, Wayne. That means shyt. Busta is just tryna battle anyone at this point

Again the shyt is not ideal and I'm not alone in that thinking.... Agree to disagree if " Well Busta thinks..." is ur strongest argument

Busta's opinion on who he thinks is his best opponent holds much more weight than yours, mine, and Rah Digga's. It's HIS music and HIS career.

 

[JustCKing]

It went platinum and reached the N°1 spot in Hip-Hop chart. So, it's also what people wanted. Being less popular than Genesis does not mean it did not have a public.

Is it a surprise that a more fun/party orientated Busta have more commercial success?
Busta is multi dimensional. Being less successfully commercial does not make it less busta. It's still him.

Nastradamus sold too, but it still a bottom tier Nas album that I don't think many Nas fans would argue was what they wanted from Nas. Like Nastradamus, Anarchy is a bottom tier Busta album and I know for a fact "Get Out Of Here" and a lot of those other songs is what people wanted. Does it have joints? Yes, but for the most part, only It Ain't Safe No More probably ranks lower.

 

[lepard]

TI has a good 20 but he’s gassing himself up beyond parody.

Match up should be he and Luda, but TI doesn’t want that energy.

 

[Solo_87]

Busta's opinion on who he thinks is his best opponent holds much more weight than yours, mine, and Rah Digga's. It's HIS music and HIS career.

None of our opinions on thecoli matter in the grand scheme of things

Agree to disagree

 

[JustCKing]

It went platinum and reached the N°1 spot in Hip-Hop chart. So, it's also what people wanted. Being less popular than Genesis does not mean it did not have a public.

Is it a surprise that a more fun/party orientated Busta have more commercial success?
Busta is multi dimensional. Being less successfully commercial does not make it less busta. It's still him.

Who said Busta wasn't multi-dimesnsional?

My point still stands, Busta MADE his name by making fun, club ready energetic songs. Those are the joints that MADE people cop his albums. Lyrical, street hop wasn't Busta. That was more so what was wanted from Mobb Deep and Nas. They do more than lyrical street hop, but that wasn't as received as those joints.

 

[JustCKing]

None of our opinions on thecoli matter in the grand scheme of things

Agree to disagree

Agreeing to disagree is what I've basically been saying with "breh just say you wouldn't be here for a Busta/Missy Verzuz". There would've been no argument.

 

[African Peasant]

Who said Busta wasn't multi-dimesnsional?

My point still stands, Busta MADE his name by making fun, club ready energetic songs. Those are the joints that MADE people cop his albums. Lyrical, street hop wasn't Busta. That was more so what was wanted from Mobb Deep and Nas. They do more than lyrical street hop, but that wasn't as received as those joints.

The debate is not about what made his name or not, it's about his catalog. Verzuz as we know now is not about singles and charts, it's about the catalog and the performance.

Busta's catalog is way more diverse than Missy's. That's a fact. For that sole reason, they are a mismatch.

 

[JustCKing]

The debate is not about what made his name or not, it's about his catalog. Verzuz as we know now is not about singles and charts, it's about the catalog and the performance.

Busta's catalog is way more diverse than Missy's. That's a fact. For that sole reason, they are a mismatch.

Busta's catalog is not as diverse as Missy's. You've done Busta's catalog a disservice by saying he's this street artist, but also has club bangers. Missy and Busta are both diverse artists , which would make their Verzuz a good match up.

I never made this just about singles or hits.

 

[Solo_87]

The debate is not about what made his name or not, it's about his catalog. Verzuz as we know now is not about singles and charts, it's about the catalog and the performance.

Busta's catalog is way more diverse than Missy's. That's a fact. For that sole reason, they are a mismatch.

Right

Matchup limits Bus to just his more party, commercial hits

While Missy the producer, songwriter, singer doesn't get to really shine

 

[MoneyBags]

In a thread for a TI versuz he can’t even get respect, lmao, nikkas have changed this into a Missy vs Busta thread.