T.J. Holmes had Sex with 24-year-old ABC 'intern' in his office after she sought him out as a mentor. Often drank liquor in office before airtime

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The reason it’s a story is that he was her superior in the workplace. It’s seen as predatory to corporations to even engage that person in a verbal manner about sex, let alone actually fukking them. What do you do for a living?
And he was fukking in his office which is a massive no-no
A guy got let go from my job when a new hire showed HR a text from the guy stating that he knows places they can fukk at work and not get caught. What led up to that was he got her fired with his clout all because she got cold feet when they were suppose to hook up.
 

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And he was fukking in his office which is a massive no-no
A guy got let go from my job when a new hire showed HR a text from the guy stating that he knows places they can fukk at work and not get caught. What led up to that was he got her fired with his clout all because she got cold feet when they were suppose to hook up.
fukking at his job. fukking interns under him. Drinking on the job. Yet bunch of bozos wonder what he’s doing wrong :dead:
 

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Whoa, simmer down, sis. :skip:


There isn't any (heavy) tricking going on with me. I'm not some sloppy/ugly dude. Nor do I have to rely on naivete to be seen as desirable by the opposite sex.

Yes, a woman might imagine the oldest she'll go for is 5-7 years older but a common saying for women is “I never imagined” when talking about the dude whose dirty draws she loves. Money, dikk, understanding tiktok references, etc doesn't hold a woman, the ability to overwhelm her intellectually and emotionally does and even then it's not a lock but it's a far more stable foundation in her heart and mind than the aforementioned attributes. If I choose to I'll be able to have women in their early twenties off of who I am alone well into my 40s.

Have you never been around an older, articulate man that had the ability to speak to and arouse parts of you that are rarely stimulated?
Of course! But if I’m not physically attracted to him I can’t do it.

That primal physical thing is still a thing I need. But I’ll admit all women aren’t like that.
That’s literally “wooing” a woman.

Men fall in love with their eyes, women- our ears. That’s why a man who doesn’t have shyt going for himself can still luck up on an attractive woman who doesn’t understand life and what a man needs to bring to the table.


I just know the difference between being with someone I’m literally drawn to and a man who has all the right attributes but…I can’t see myself in bed with him. I admittedly focus more on looks than I should. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Which is why ppl end up in sexless marriages. Marrying someone who is sensible & good on paper that they aren’t attracted to.

But it’s not so much about age, per se, but just the fact that some men don’t understand where the appeal of the older man comes from. It’s not sex appeal unless you’re like a 35YO Michael B Jordan LOL


Same way if a man can choose between a pretty 32 YO who can cook and clean and a pretty 25YO offering the same thing- the difference is you want the youth. That’s the biggest thing. A woman choosing between a fine 25YO with no $ and a fine 32YO who can make her a stay at home wife, she’s going to pick the cute guy who might be little older but has more $.

If the choice was between a fine, advanced 25YO who can make you a stay at home Vs a fine 32 year old who is offering the same, why would she choose the older guy when the younger man is bringing the same thing? Whatever age difference there is didn’t give the older guy any leverage in life compared to the 25YO.


Now, that’s rarely the case. The case usually is that the older guy IS better off than the younger guy, so we do what makes more sense if we want a successful husband and comfortable life. That’s the usual appeal of the older guy.


And that wasn’t any shade to you. If you looked bad a woman damn near 20yrs younger than you wouldn’t be considering you lol I’m just saying in general the same way attraction to younger women boils down to sexual attraction for all men is the same way, ultimately, the appeal of the older man is $/provision for women.

Younger women AND men are the most attractive simply because of nature. They’re YOUNG lol Me standing in front of a man2 years older than me and a man 15yrs older than me isn’t the same.

You standing in front of a woman 2 yrs your junior and 15yrs your junior isn’t the same. That primal shyt is true for both sexes.
 

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Did she willingly have the sex with him?

Unless this was physically coerced or he flat out tried to hinder her career unless sex was involved what are we even discussing

This stupid playbook of women sleeping with "powerful"(how much juice does he really have at that network anyway) men by choice and then playing victim conveniently after has to start getting called out

You chose to suck that dikk...people make tough choices all the time

People chose to say no to all kinds of things all the time
 

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Yea we had yearly courses and videos even before that me too stuff was at the forefront. It’s been frowned upon for a long time in the workplace, and is front and center now. As stated previous in the thread anyone questioning why someone fukking their intern is seen as predatory doesn’t work in the corporate work environment
I work in corpirate and there arent always rules against relationships with subordinates, including my company. Just use good judgment.

Companies know how many people date coworkers either way. And there isnt a rule against Holmes affairs with Robaugh or his producer and probably not the intern either
 

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Power and status is attractive to women.


A 38 year old man that has status and is physically decent can easily fukk 8/10 24 year olds especially if he has regular contact with them at work.
Yea. But I’m saying THAT is what is attractive about the older man. Not his actual physicality. Lol

Some dudes make the mistake of thinking they’re the fly older dude when naw- it’s those other things that attracted the younger woman. WHICH IS FINE! But the 38YO with power is mainly pulling because of that power. Which is why men get power and money 🤷🏾‍♀️
 

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Dude clearly got off on fukking women at his place. Unfortunately Black men especially in positions of power are held to higher standards and he should have been more aware of this. His career is over.
 

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Of course! But if I’m not physically attracted to him I can’t do it.

That primal physical thing is still a thing I need. But I’ll admit all women aren’t like that.
That’s literally “wooing” a woman.

Men fall in love with their eyes, women- our ears. That’s why a man who doesn’t have shyt going for himself can still luck up on an attractive woman who doesn’t understand life and what a man needs to bring to the table.


I just know the difference between being with someone I’m literally drawn to and a man who has all the right attributes but…I can’t see myself in bed with him. I admittedly focus more on looks than I should. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Which is why ppl end up in sexless marriages. Marrying someone who is sensible & good on paper that they aren’t attracted to.

But it’s not so much about age, per se, but just the fact that some men don’t understand where the appeal of the older man comes from. It’s not sex appeal unless you’re like a 35YO Michael B Jordan LOL


Same way if a man can choose between a pretty 32 YO who can cook and clean and a pretty 25YO offering the same thing- the difference is you want the youth. That’s the biggest thing. A woman choosing between a fine 25YO with no $ and a fine 32YO who can make her a stay at home wife, she’s going to pick the cute guy who might be little older but has more $.

If the choice was between a fine, advanced 25YO who can make you a stay at home Vs a fine 32 year old who is offering the same, why would she choose the older guy when the younger man is bringing the same thing? Whatever age difference there is didn’t give the older guy any leverage in life compared to the 25YO.


Now, that’s rarely the case. The case usually is that the older guy IS better off than the younger guy, so we do what makes more sense if we want a successful husband and comfortable life. That’s the usual appeal of the older guy.


And that wasn’t any shade to you. If you looked bad a woman damn near 20yrs younger than you wouldn’t be considering you lol I’m just saying in general the same way attraction to younger women boils down to sexual attraction for all men is the same way, ultimately, the appeal of the older man is $/provision for women.

Younger women AND men are the most attractive simply because of nature. They’re YOUNG lol Me standing in front of a man2 years older than me and a man 15yrs older than me isn’t the same.

You standing in front of a woman 2 yrs your junior and 15yrs your junior isn’t the same. That primal shyt is true for both sexes.

All true.
 

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:gucci: What y'all smoking this morning, cause it must be some of that GOOD ish. I just looked at the accusations against Matt Lauer and he was called a "predator" because the accusation is that he actually RAPED a woman.

To equivocate TJ sleeping with women to a dude who actually RAPED a woman, and refer to them with the same term "predator" is some of the most ignorant foolishness I've ever seen in my life.

Sleeping with women does NOT make you a predator... unless you're black. :mjpls:

And y'all dudes fall for this foolery every single time. I pray to God I'm never falsely accused of anything, cause "brothas" like y'all would be the main ones leading the charge against me without doing even a cursory examination of the facts.
Exactly. @breakfuss @Matt504 @Thavoiceofthevoiceless

y'all my guys but y'all should be ashamed of yourselves with this constant demonization of Black men that y'all promote. This is shameful.

Y'all really going along with calling a black man a predator cause he had sex. And then had the nerve to bring up Matt Lauer like "see look, he was called a predator too" when if you had even clicked the links you provided, it would have shown that Matt was out here raping hoes.

So a black man having sex is the equivalent of a white man raping women? Is that what y'all are saying?

With brothas like y'all, who needs enemies? :snoop:
I agree with that part. I'm specifically talking about the fact that TJ is being called a "predator", a word that has long been used unfairly against black men to demonize them unjustly, and y'all have no problem with that.

You're talking about that particular industry, but this happens in ALL industries. And black men are categorically treated more harshly than everyone else, even when they don't deserve it. This is what I'm trying to get the good brotha @breakfuss to see.
:unimpressed:Your heart’s probably in the right place but I have no interest in defending dudes lacking dikk discipline. And that’s me putting it generously. If this brother was capable enough to matriculate through CNN and ABC then certainly he’s aware of the blatant racial double standard in this country. Aside from that he’s still in the wrong. I haven’t ever been in a high profile position at work but even I can’t fukk direct reports or subordinates. Ridiculous. It has nothing to do the with the legal age of consent. Since you want to mince words we’ll just call him a piece of shyt and not a predator :martin:.
 
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:unimpressed:Your heart’s probably in the right place but I have no interest in defending dudes lacking dikk discipline. And that’s me putting it generously. If this brother was capable enough to matriculate through CNN and ABC then certainly he’s aware of the blatant racial double standard in this country. Aside from that he’s still in the wrong. I haven’t ever been in a high profile position at work but even I can’t fukk direct reports or subordinates. Ridiculous. It has nothing to do the with the legal age of consent. Since you want to mince words we’ll just call him a piece of shyt and not a predator :martin:.





That's acceptable to me. :mjgrin:
 

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That's acceptable to me. :mjgrin:
Some of these dudes don’t deserve your energy and defense bruh:hubie:. You already know how I feel though and I already know why you push back. I ain’t mad at you for pointing out the inconsistencies. But some of these nikkas is just plain dumb:hhh:. I won’t even comment on a woman’s obvious weight loss or fly fit she might have on at work. Nooooo sireee. Not me. Got me fukked up. That’s just the climate we in right now. It’s an overcorrection for the Mad Men era but it is what it is.

EDIT: I have messed with colleagues though. I’m guilty of it. I’ve shared that with @Matt504 and he still said I was dumb for doing it. But bruh I vetted like a motherfukker and they were not subordinates. And I ain’t married.
 

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:beli: that's not what im talking about.... fact remains this woman is an adult and as an adult no one put a gun to her head and made her say yes, she was a willing fukkbuddy... y'all making it seem like she didnt have control of her own brains... stop giving excuses to these fukking women...:what:

Who tf is making excuses??? I didn't write the Daily Mail article nor did I say or even imply she didn't have a choice. Now what?

Y'all are in here arguing semantics like the general consensus is that TJ damn near raped this lady when nobody on this bytch even called him a predator. We keep saying we don't think he's a predator, just stupid as fukk and that it's a bad look for him as a man in a position of power. You're acting like there's an uproar because he fukked a random 24yr old when the issue is she was his subordinate.

I believe she was a 100% willing and EAGER participant. But what does that change about the fact that this was a sloppy and shortsighted move on TJ's part and his downfall is of his own doing?
 
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i don't get it...I thought black men could avoid backlash if they just moved in silence and didn't broadcast their sexual escapades all over place.

:skip:

He was having an affair with another on air anchor, and messing with women AT work. And he works as a public figure. This is not Tom, the janitor at ABC.

Predator doesn’t always mean rapist.

Do you not remember what happened to Matt Lauer?
 
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