Ta-Nehisi Coates and Ezra Klein Hash Out Their Charlie Kirk Disagreement

[Ish Gibor]

Ta-Nehisi Coates and Ezra Klein Hash Out Their Charlie Kirk Disagreement​

The writer Ta-Nehisi Coates was harshly critical of my response to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. In an article in Vanity Fair, he suggested I was whitewashing Kirk’s legacy, comparing it to the whitewashing of the Southern cause after the Civil War. So I wanted to have Coates on the show to talk out our disagreement, as well as some deeper questions that I think exist underneath it about the work of politics. What should the left do about the fact that so many Americans share Kirk’s views? What kinds of disagreements should we try to bridge? When is that work moral and necessary, and when is it a betrayal?

0:00 Intro
2:07 Why Coates wrote the piece
10:07 Why is the left losing right now?
24:14 The stakes of losing right now
29:09 "Not at the expense of my neighbor's humanity"
36:14 What if you don't get to draw the line?
49:37 The work of politics
1:09:41 Book recommendations

 

[EBK String]

Coates a soft shoe c00n, he talks real shyt just enough to keep credibility but he always backs down and capitulates to power. Wouldn’t no real nikka be friends with a p*ssy like Ezra Klein.

 

[Remote]

Coates a soft shoe c00n, he talks real shyt just enough to keep credibility but he always backs down and capitulates to power. Wouldn’t no real nikka be friends with a p*ssy like Ezra Klein.

Is this a real criticism?
Because it seems like you’re bashing a guy for not being an uncompromising militant.

We see this a lot where the moment a person fails some arbitrary purity test, they get tossed aside

 

[Maude]

Ezra Klein is Maga pretending to be a Liberal. Coates already destroyed him in the Vanity Fair Article. This wasnt necessary.

 

[EBK String]

Is this a real criticism?
Because it seems like you’re bashing a guy for not being an uncompromising militant.

We see this a lot where the moment a person fails some arbitrary purity test, they get tossed aside

Militant because I would never be friends or sit down with some pretend liberal cac.

 

[Brian O'Conner]

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Coates a soft shoe c00n, he talks real shyt just enough to keep credibility but he always backs down and capitulates to power. Wouldn’t no real nikka be friends with a p*ssy like Ezra Klein.

Who has more power than Joos in this country?

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Same energy as this clip:


Some viewpoints aren't worth debating. Coates as usual is correct. Klein has far too many financial incentives tied up in acting like a moron for me to take him seriously on any political topic that affects anyone other than members of his race and class. Plus it's easier for him to make excuses for white males because, well, fukking look at him. If that clown gets a paper cut, the mf bleeds mayonnaise.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Militant because I would never be friends or sit down with some pretend liberal cac.

They sound crazy, saying militant like its a bad thing

And equating sticking with your beliefs as militant

 

[Remote]

They sound crazy, saying militant like its a bad thing

And equating sticking with your beliefs as militant

Uncompromising people are easy to admire.
However, history shows they aren’t the ones who drive progress.

 

[blackestofpanthers]

Militant because I would never be friends or sit down with some pretend liberal cac.

He’s a white Latino that was exposed for using the word nikka on this website, don’t pay him any mind brother.

 

[Wargames]

Uncompromising people are easy to admire.
However, history shows they aren’t the ones who drive progress.

True, but there is a time for everything and I would say right now we need an entrenchment in our beliefs as progressives.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Uncompromising people are easy to admire.
However, history shows they aren’t the ones who drive progress.

Compromise progress

 

[RamsayBolton]

Listened and might have to tap out at 14 minutes. Ta-Nehisi talks about how Black Americans that are linked back to slavery have a life experience and family historically intrinsically linked to political violence which means more awareness of how widespread it is

Then Ezra's direct response is just saying that looking at too much history makes the present too deterministic and he basically wants to focus on why democrats lost in the past 12 years or so


fukk you bytch. you know how much Black pain Ta-Nehisi brought up there? And you just hand wave it and wanna focus on why the good whites are losing ground to the evil whites in elections? its because TOO MANY OF YOUR RACE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE EVIL AND HOW THEY TREAT MINORITIES (AND GET AWAY WITH IT) DEMONSTRATES IT!!!!!

 

[HarlemHottie]

Compromise progress

Yall continue to be the duh's in the class. Did the last several elections teach you nothing? Americans would rather vote for the real Republican than a mealy-mouthed fake one. Newsome even figured it out.