Take Kawhi off the spurs, take Bron Bron off the cavs. Which roster is better?

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:jbhmm: Kawhi does more than Bron defensively and close offensively with a worse team. His team won 60+ then shytted on the warriors on their own court by 20 before he went down. Yet the media and Brawnies like to create some huge gap between himself and his peers.
 
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Cavs.

Contrary to what Bron stans say, LeBron has the 2nd most talented roster in the NBA around him.

If he's as good as they think, he should be able to win at least 1 game in the finals. His team is good enough.
 

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Spurs because the spurs would win more games without Kawhi than Cavaliers without Lebron. The Cavaliers lose more +/- overall contribution when Lebron is out than when Kawhi is out.

This is Kawhi's +/- contribution to the Spurs when he is on the floor generally. The BPM is the Box Score Plus/Minus:
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So when Kawhi is on the floor for Spurs he gives them +7.9 Box Score probability. As such, without Kawhi the Spurs lose -7.9 Box Score. Fair enough right? Wait a minute. Lebron just edges out Kawhi in terms of what he adds to the Cav's Box Score when he plays (or doesn't):
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Relative to Kawhi, who is a beast in his own statistical right, Lebron nearly adds a full point to the Box Score when he's off the court. He also adds more offensively and defensively than Kawhi too.
 
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