Doobie Doo
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Drive gets you further in life than talent.
Talent VS Drive
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The luck part is an excellent statement, but people will say hard work brings its own luck, which I don't completely agree with. In terms of sports, you're fortunate to be born with natural height, speed, genetics, coordination. Some of those are things you can't get better at with practice. You can work out and get stronger, you can study film and get smarter, you can shoot a million jumpshots. But with all of that, you basically have to win the genetic lottery first and then get lucky enough to be one of the 1% who are able to make it to the pros. But it still takes someone seeing something in you and believing in you and giving you a chance.
Now for us non sports people, its a different bag, but the idea of luck still applies. You still have to have someone who believes in you and is willing to give you a chance, whether you own your own business and try to get clientele or trying to work your way up through a company. I have also seen people work their asses off at their job and never really progress, they just put a lot of effort into what they are doing.
There are people out here that could build better computers than Bill Gates, and while Gates is highly intelligent, so are a lot of people. What was it about him that made him become "Bill Gates"? Luck has to play a factor.
Yeah, but Shaq fell out of his mother being 6ft tall and already weighing 100 pounds. Genetic lottery. Plus he's not highly regarded as a top 5 player even though he had once in a generation potential.Didn't Shaq eat like shyt, never practice, and was constantly told off by teammates for having bad work ethic? I wonder how he turned out...
That depends on what you do in life. If you're talking sports, then Talent>drive.
There's a reason why in boxing you see these trainers that are extremely good, but never went pro.
There's a reason why in boxing you see these trainers that are extremely good, but never went pro.
Not just hard work - you also need to work smart.
However, talent will always give you the leverage cuz you don't need to work as hard as the next person to thrive. When you have talent and the work ethic to sustain it, nothing can stop you.
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TrebleMan
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Absolutely. This is the exact point I was really trying to make about luck. Things like the bolded are completely out of anyone's hands.
Circumstances are real. Way too many examples out in the real world to think otherwise.
Again, hard work is what everybody must put in. That's their part. That's the only way for anybody to have a chance. Everything else is pretty much out of their hands. Work hard, never give up and pray/hope for the best.
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Hard work beats talent.
Talent will often determine how hard you have to work.
Talent will often determine how hard you have to work.
daboywonder2002
Superstar
i think that talent makes life easier. Example- let's take a kid who's not good in STEM. His parents tell him to major in engineering. He works his ass off but still is only able to pull C's and a few B's. However he has say a great voice and can communicate well. could have worked in radio and blossomed. Drive is great but can you reach the top of the mountain with only drive?
Hungry Rabbit
Pro
Didn't Shaq eat like shyt, never practice, and was constantly told off by teammates for having bad work ethic? I wonder how he turned out
...I've never heard any of that. Prob didn't eat like shyt considering his body during his playing days; prob practiced a lot considering he's a hall-of-famer now; and may/may not have have been told by teammates of his bad work ethic.
But even if he did eat like shyt, never practiced, and had poor work ethic, he's Shaq and most people can't be a 7'1" 300lbs center in the NBA.
Sorry breh
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
Talent:Isaiah rider,Michael Beasley,
Drive:Kobe, Lebron
Talent:Chris brown
Drive: Bruno mars
Drive:Kobe, Lebron
Talent:Chris brown
Drive: Bruno mars
daboywonder2002
Superstar
I dont know about the Breezy bruno comparison. Honestly I think Bruno found his niche/winning formula and is just running with it.
TrebleMan
Superstar
Agree 100% with what he was saying at 23:30:
No matter what you think "the universe" is: God, The Universe, probability, entropy, circumstances, luck, fortune, etc. Things simply have to line-up out of your control.
Later in the interview also dude talked about a lot of misfortune that struck him when he first got signed and was about to give up, until his auntie had a talk with him. Had it not been for her being there at the time, who knows what would've happened. That's just that force playing it's hand.
No matter what you think "the universe" is: God, The Universe, probability, entropy, circumstances, luck, fortune, etc. Things simply have to line-up out of your control.
Later in the interview also dude talked about a lot of misfortune that struck him when he first got signed and was about to give up, until his auntie had a talk with him. Had it not been for her being there at the time, who knows what would've happened. That's just that force playing it's hand.
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Here Comes the Pain
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Bruno`s drive to get better as an artist(putting the right people around him) and all around performer has allow him to have opportunities to perform at the Superbowl and what not.
Going from a behind the scenes guy to now your one of the biggest artists out is drive.
Chris doesn't really do that. He's complacent.
daboywonder2002
Superstar
Bruno was behind the scenes? never knew wthat