Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public

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Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public​

Molvi Mohammad Sadiq Akif, the spokesman for the Taliban's Ministry of Vice and Virtue, speaks during an interview in Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, Aug. 17, 2023. Molvi said that women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public and that the only way to wear the hijab, or the Islamic headscarf, is if the face is hidden. (AP Photo/Siddiqullah Alizai)

Molvi Mohammad Sadiq Akif, the spokesman for the Taliban’s Ministry of Vice and Virtue, speaks during an interview in Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, Aug. 17, 2023. Molvi said that women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public and that the only way to wear the hijab, or the Islamic headscarf, is if the face is hidden. (AP Photo/Siddiqullah Alizai)

BY RIAZAT BUTT
Updated 6:06 AM EDT, August 18, 2023

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Women lose value if men can see their uncovered faces in public, a spokesman for a key ministry of Afghanistan’s Taliban government said Thursday, adding that religious scholars in the country agree that a woman must keep her face covered when outside the home.

The Taliban, who took over the country in August of 2021, have cited the failure of women to observe the proper way to wear the hijab, or Islamic headscarf, as a reason for barring them from most public spaces, including parks, jobs and university.

Molvi Mohammad Sadiq Akif, the spokesman for the Taliban’s Ministry of Vice and Virtue, said in an interview Thursday with The Associated Press that if women’s faces are visible in public there is a possibility of fitna, or falling into sin.

“It is very bad to see women (without the hijab) in some areas (big cities), and our scholars also agree that women’s faces should be hidden,” Akif said. “It’s not that her face will be harmed or damaged. A woman has her own value and that value decreases by men looking at her. Allah gives respect to females in hijab and there is value in this.”

Tim Winter, who is the Shaykh Zayed Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the Faculty of Divinity at Cambridge University, said there was no scriptural mandate in Islam for face coverings and the Taliban would struggle to find anything in Islamic scripture that backed their interpretation of hijab rules.

“Their name implies they are not senior religious experts,” he told AP. “The word Taliban means students. “



Afghan women and girls are barred from virtually every aspect of public life with the Taliban entrenched in the country after two years of rule. (Aug. 14/AP video shot by Mohammadd Habib Rahmani, Reddiquallah Alizai, Omid Haqjo)



He said the Taliban operate on the basis of textbooks used in village madrassas, religious schools, and that Muslim scholars who have been to Afghanistan during both periods of Taliban rule have been underwhelmed by their level of religious knowledge. “They have just been so isolated from the wider Muslim community.”

The Taliban’s restrictions on girls and women have caused global outrage, including from some Muslim-majority countries.

On Wednesday, U.N. special envoy Gordon Brown said the International Criminal Court should prosecute Taliban leaders for crimes against humanity for denying education and employment to Afghan girls and women.

Akif, who is the main spokesman for the Vice and Virtue Ministry, did not answer questions about the bans, including whether any of them could be lifted if there were to be universal adherence to hijab rules. He said there were other departments to deal with these issues.

Akif said the ministry faced no obstacles in its work and that people supported its measures.

“People wanted to implement Sharia (Islamic law) here. Now we’re carrying out the implementation of Sharia.” All the decrees are Islamic rulings and the Taliban have added nothing to them, he said. “The orders of Sharia were issued 1,400 years ago and they are still there.”

He said that under the current administration men no longer harass or stare at women like they used to do in the time of the previous government.

The Taliban government also says it has destroyed the “evils” of drinking alcohol and bacha bazi, a practice in which wealthy or powerful men exploit boys for entertainment, especially dancing and sexual activities.

The ministry is in a fortified compound near Darul Aman Palace in the Afghan capital, Kabul. Women are forbidden from entering ministry premises, some of the guards who were on duty Thursday told AP, although there is a female-only security screening hut.

Slogans on concrete barricades praise the purpose of the ministry.

One reads: “The promotion of virtues and the prohibition of vices are an effective means of social order.” Another says: “The promotion of virtues and the prohibition of vices save society from catastrophe.”

Akif said the ministry relies on a network of officials and informants to check if people are following regulations.

“Our ombudsmen walk in markets, public places, universities, schools, madrassas and mosques,” he said. “They visit all these places and watch people. They also speak with them and educate them. We monitor them and people also cooperate with and inform us.”

When asked if women can go to parks, one of the spaces they are banned from, he said they would be able to if certain conditions could be met.

“You can go to the park, but only if there are no men there. If there are men, then Sharia does not allow it. We don’t say that a woman can’t do sports, she can’t go to the park or she can’t run. She can do all these things, but not in the same way as some women want, to be semi-naked and among men.”
 

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They should make everybody in India wear burkha . it would solve a lot of issues
 
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The American military lost to these guys. :mjlol:


I was there in Afghanistan breh


I’m not going to go into some big spiel or judgement. But when I say those people are willing to DIE for their beliefs i’m dead ass serious. You can’t defeat a culture that is so dedicated to a way of life that DEATH in service of defending that culture is seen as a badge of honor. Not unless your prepared to drop some Nukes (which I would never personally advocate for)

Its always been best in my opinion to leave those people alone and if the day ever comes where they truly want a change, then revolution will come from within.
 

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I wonder what they went through in they history to the point they got to cover women’s faces up

I suspect they was afraid of Africans taking they women
Or they could be gay in peace without being seen as gay.

It's as simple as another man wearing a full covering and not speaking. Gay people who've left countries like this talk about how depraved their down low community is. The repression these guys face turns them into the most sick demons you can imagine :scusthov:
 

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Or they could be gay in peace without being seen as gay.

It's as simple as another man wearing a full covering and not speaking. Gay people who've left countries like this talk about how depraved their down low community is. The repression these guys face turns them into the most sick demons you can imagine :scusthov:
That’s doing a whole lot just to hide in the closet, that shyt they doing with they women doesn’t seem very productive for society
 

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brother... in Afghanistan it is very normal to have a boy as a sex partner
The Taliban was killing those pedos. The US protected them. Those were the "warlords" the US allied with.

Same deal with the heroin. The Taliban was shutting that shyt down. America brought it back. Had US soldiers protecting the poppy fields.
 
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