Tank Says Justin Timberlake & Robin Thicke Are Making Better R&B Than Black Artists

[Wild self]

That's the thing though and it goes back to that Kem thread, which is that mature R&B isn't what's being supported. I've seen posts of people saying they like Weeknd because he doesn't make "simp" music. A lot of times what's considered classic, good, old school, or genuine R&B gets labeled as simp music.

No church to hone their skills and no music class to expand their skill makes the young generation talentless. We fukked up bad with overusing technology and being in the club more than the club.

 

[DrX]

tank always say slick shyt about blacks...he used too b on the foxxhole

 

[Icantspell]

all the tank interviews ive seen are hilarious



funny dude

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

Black R&B artist make music to fit commercial format, white R&B artists aren't far off from that but the big names get the benefit of radio making format fit their music

 

[SAJ!!]

The women in R&B is holding it down

That's good enough for me.

anyway we're due for a NEW prodigy or sonic genius sooner or later

That is not the case at all.

The women in R&B are even in worse shape because the females in this day and age are not willing to follow the blueprint that the female singers in the 80s and 90s did. Half of them just don't want to go the urban contemporary rout with a little pop production thrown in the mix because, in their view, its' the equivalent of selling out. The other half are too busy trying to re-create music from the past that was already done.

I want black artists to go platinum again too, but there needs to be another musical shift in order for it to happen again. Just like New Jack Swing happened during the late 80s, something needs to happen in this day and age.

 

[daboywonder2002]

That is not the case at all.

The women in R&B are even in worse shape because the females in this day and age are not willing to follow the blueprint that the female singers in the 80s and 90s did. Half of them just don't want to go the urban contemporary rout with a little pop production thrown in the mix because, in their view, its' the equivalent of selling out. The other half are too busy trying to re-create music from the past that was already done.

I want black artists to go platinum again too, but there needs to be another musical shift in order for it to happen again. Just like New Jack Swing happened during the late 80s, something needs to happen in this day and age.

to me, it's like only one person at a time can be popular. female r and b- beyonce has a chokehold on the industry. female rap- nicki minaj. black comedy- chris tucker. black tv- tyler perry. it's like we only want what's popular to the masses and dont wanna try new things. also as far as female artists, the one problem i have is their pen game .i miss the days where u had true songwriters and a female would sing it the way she was told to sing it. now, they wanna write their own lyrics and not to sound sexist, that's not their strong suit

 

[JustCKing]

This is what happens when a RnB/Soul thread is made in the hip hop section of this board, a bunch of fools who know nothing about the genre of Rnb talking shyt.

RnB is far from dead, and JT and Robin Thicke are nowhere as good as some of the black artists who have put out RnB music in the last year, if you want some names i can give you that, because you know from when people are using Chris Brown and Trey Songz as the representation for modern day RnB they don't follow the genre beyond the radio station.

It's not for lack of knowledge. Anybody using JT and Robin Thicke as standards for R&B is obviously referring to modern mainstream R&B. Artists like Usher, Chris Brown, and Trey Songz are the representation of that. That's not to say they are the end-all, be-all of modern R&B, but they were/are the ones at the forefront in terms of airplay and popularity.

In the 90's, it would've been Mary J. Blige and R. Kelly that would've been the faces of the R&B of that era. That doesn't discount the fact that Maxwell, D'angelo, Erykah Badu, and a host of other artists were also creating classics, but Mary and R. Kelly were at the forefront.

 

[DANJ!]

No church to hone their skills and no music class to expand their skill makes the young generation talentless. We fukked up bad with overusing technology and being in the club more than the club.

And lets not forget that unlike artists that once HAD to also be good performers, a lotta these dudes grew up on videos and therefore are half-assed performers.

Although I will say Usher, C-Brown, Janelle, and a few others are good on stage.

But a lot of artists from the 90s kicked that off with their bland stage performances. Very good music but a lot of 'em just bopped to the beat and walked across the stage like rappers.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

i know some people might not want to hear this, but in order for r&b to have its next boom period, theres gonna have to be a new renaissance in the hip-hop soul realm. im not saying it has to sound like the music that was branded as "hip-hop soul" in the '90s. it can be something new and fresh.

think about it. all boom periods in modern-day r&b were a result of it. from new jack swing to the hip-hop soul era of the mid-90s.

its gotta be the young, hip & marketable types. meanwhile, the kem's and ambrisious' of the world will reap the benefits and still get their props/awards, but theyre never gonna be the ones that carry the torch in the mainstream.

and i noticed the push for new black moguls in here but they have purposely been eliminated from the game. all thats left in those positions are either house niccas, those that lack any backbone and those that dont fall under either category but lack musical integrity.

 

[Jone2three45]

i know some people might not want to hear this, but in order for r&b to have its next boom period, theres gonna have to be a new renaissance in the hip-hop soul realm. im not saying it has to sound like the music that was branded as "hip-hop soul" in the '90s. it can be something new and fresh.

think about it. all boom periods in modern-day r&b were a result of it. from new jack swing to the hip-hop soul era of the mid-90s.

its gotta be the young, hip & marketable types. meanwhile, the kem's and ambrisious' of the world will reap the benefits and still get their props/awards, but theyre never gonna be the ones that carry the torch in the mainstream.

and i noticed the push for new black moguls in here but they have purposely been eliminated from the game. all thats left in those positions are either house niccas, those that lack any backbone and those that dont fall under either category but lack musical integrity.

Blacks born in the 90's and so on would never allow that and would reject it.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Blacks born in the 90's and so on would never allow that and would reject it.

its basically the primary form of r&b that they listen to.

90% of the mainstream r&b artists that are on the radio and talked about on here are b*stard childs of new jack swing, hip-hop soul, etc. the problem is that they just suck at it. most of these artists are still doing their worst mid-00s r.kelly impression.

all it takes is some real legitimately great records of the mold. whether its a fresh new style or some throwback chit like that mack wilds joint, which blew up organically.

'90s babies get a bad rep. the ones with sense arent really into most of the bullchit questionable music that gets pumped up. and you know what i recently realized? '80s babies were looked down upon as well. ive recently had to fend off a few older people who assumed that myself and others were rockin with any ole thing that came on the radio before i hit 16-18 and couldnt fathom anything otherwise. so all the '80s babies in here that hated the shiney suits and stuff like that, theres people that are convinced that you loved it. the same way yall are chittin on the '90s babies. truth be told, most of the kids in high school now that are of my ilk, are on the same chit that i was on, just lower quality versions of it. but most people here are under the assumption that theyre a bunch of drake-lovin, skinny jeans sporting f*ckboys. no no no no no way.

 

[Danie84]

Prop the cac men up and still can't sell out

 

[Budda]

It's not for lack of knowledge. Anybody using JT and Robin Thicke as standards for R&B is obviously referring to modern mainstream R&B. Artists like Usher, Chris Brown, and Trey Songz are the representation of that. That's not to say they are the end-all, be-all of modern R&B, but they were/are the ones at the forefront in terms of airplay and popularity.

In the 90's, it would've been Mary J. Blige and R. Kelly that would've been the faces of the R&B of that era. That doesn't discount the fact that Maxwell, D'angelo, Erykah Badu, and a host of other artists were also creating classics, but Mary and R. Kelly were at the forefront.

No they're not, these artists don't sell more than Frank Ocean or Miguel.

 

[JustCKing]

No they're not, these artists don't sell more than Frank Ocean or Miguel.

I'm not talking about sales though. I'm talking about Usher, Chris Brown, and Trey Songz being the standard for modern, mainstream R&B. The newer artists are who are making an impact are either proteges of are sound similar to those artists. For example, look at Sevyn Streeter (Chris Brown), August Alsina, Eric Bellinger, etc.

In terms of comparison, Justin Timberlake and Robin Thicke will be compared to an Usher before they would a Frank Ocean or Miguel because neither Ocean or Miguel have the crossover records that an Usher has.

 

[Wild self]

i know some people might not want to hear this, but in order for r&b to have its next boom period, theres gonna have to be a new renaissance in the hip-hop soul realm. im not saying it has to sound like the music that was branded as "hip-hop soul" in the '90s. it can be something new and fresh.

think about it. all boom periods in modern-day r&b were a result of it. from new jack swing to the hip-hop soul era of the mid-90s.

its gotta be the young, hip & marketable types. meanwhile, the kem's and ambrisious' of the world will reap the benefits and still get their props/awards, but theyre never gonna be the ones that carry the torch in the mainstream.

and i noticed the push for new black moguls in here but they have purposely been eliminated from the game. all thats left in those positions are either house niccas, those that lack any backbone and those that dont fall under either category but lack musical integrity.

Hell, I can't recall no music moguls in the game today under 35. Add on top of the fact that the concept of dedication to one person is lame to young black tennagers that would rather party and smoke loud all the damn time, these days.