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according to who? A person that refuses to be black even though they are?
I can separate truth from propaganda but most people can't. I also have the ability to realize the purpose & uses of truth vs propaganda and again most people don't.

The direction I use my arguments are according to the topic at hand.
I've already stated that everything in the HC films aren't accurate...neither are the things constantly shoved down my throat on the History Channel etc. That is Hidden Colors peer...and until I see the History Channel & Discovery Channel report things about black people accurately I could care less about the few things wrong with the Hidden Colors films. I don't see how you all don't understand this position.

Right, but If the discovery channel aired a piece supporting the blackness of ancient Egypt you would be all over it, so this is really just all about you wanting to be told what you want to hear. Why are you okay with people being fed ignorance?
 

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Right, but If the discovery channel aired a piece supporting the blackness of ancient Egypt you would be all over it, so this is really just all about you wanting to be told what you want to hear. Why are you okay with people being fed ignorance?

I just explained that its ok to correct the mistakes of the documentaries AFTER people have digested the films.
I don't want you guys to deter people from watching the vids...they create interest & lead to all of the things you claim to want people to do which is go read books & learn the facts.

The moment I watched Hidden Colors 1 I was inspired & I went straight to fact checking the vid on my 2nd watch. These are the things I don't want you guys to deter. This is why I don't have a problem with what I call 'positive propaganda' & you call ignorance.
 

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Sir he is talking about modern day Ghana. And they even showed a map of modern day Ghana on the map when they stated it.

Modern day Ghana took the name of the Ghana Empire which was in Mauritania.
I posted a link proving that Dar Tichit became part of the Ghana Empire.This is proven. Modern Ghana is a remnant of the Ghana empire. So your argument is what exactly?
 

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I posted a link proving that Dar Tichit became part of the Ghana Empire.This is proven. Modern Ghana is a remnant of the Ghana empire. So your argument is what exactly?


What link??? Where??? What historian or archaeologist says Dhar Tichit was in modern day Ghana??? Where???

You seriously don't know what the heck you're even talking about. No. The Ghana Empire came from Dhar Tichit, both civilizations were in Mauritania. NOT modern Ghana.


By contrast the area around Dar Tichitt in southern Mauritania has been the subject of much archaeological attention, revealing successive layers of settlement near what still were small lakes as late as 1200 BCE. At this time people there built circular compounds, 60-100 feet in diameter, near the beaches of the lakes. (‘Compound’ is the name given to a housing type, still common today, in which several members of related families share space within a wall.) These compounds were arranged into large villages located about 12 miles from each other. Inhabitants fished, herded cattle and planted some millet, which they stored in pottery vessels. This was the last era of reasonable moisture in this part of the Sahara. By 1000 BCE the villages, still made up of compounds, had been relocated to hilltop positions, and were walled. Cattle were still herded, more millet was grown, but there were no more lakes for fishing. From 700-300 BCE the villages decreased in size and farming was reduced at the expense of pastoralism.

Architecturally, the villages of Dar Tichitt resemble those of the modern northern Mande (Soninke), who live in the savanna 300-400 miles to the south.These ancient villagers were not only farmers, but were engaged in trade connected with the salt and copper mines which developed to the north. Horse drawn vehicles passed through the Tichitt valley, bringing trading opportunities, ideas, and opening up the inhabitants to raids from their more nomadic northern neighbors (1). Development of the social and political organization necessary to handle commerce and defense must have been a factor in the subsequent development of Ghana, the first great Sudanic empire, in this part of West Africa.
Source: Ancient African Civilizations To ca. 1500: Text Supplement and Study Guide for History/PAS 393 Dr. Susan J. Herlin

The source not only states that Dhar Tichit was NOT in Ghana but Mauritania and that Ghana Empire came from Dhar Tichit but also that the Sonnike people were the people who founded the civilization, the Sonnike people who are NOT FOUND IN MODERN GHANA!

But more importantly:
Prime Minister Nkrumah's Gold Coast government issued a white paper containing proposals for Gold Coast independence in May 1956. The British government agreed to a firm date for independence when a majority of British Togoland residents voted for unification with an independent Gold Coast. On March 6, 1957, the state of Ghana, named after the medieval West African empire, became an independent country within the Commonwealth of Nations.
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Map of original Ghana Empire:
history-of-ghana0.gif


Map of Dhar Tichitt:
DomesticationofCattleinAfricaMarshallHildebrand.png


Neither were in Modern Ghana which was originally called the Gold coast.


What was your absurd argument again??? I swear some people on this site should stop speaking on things they don't know...:mjlol:
 

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you guys are haters.... it's not like this nikka has hollywood backing him and you all are talking about he's doing it for the paper.

Well of course, thats the shyt he talks about...... Not being a bum, getting p*ssy when you want it, and the uplifting of the black community.

I respect all those things and maybe there are some historical inaccuracies.... but sparking some of those convos on this scale is more than worth it.

He's doing a great thing here.
 

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What link??? Where??? What historian or archaeologist says Dhar Tichit was in modern day Ghana??? Where???

You seriously don't know what the heck you're even talking about. No. The Ghana Empire came from Dhar Tichit, both civilizations were in Mauritania. NOT modern Ghana.


By contrast the area around Dar Tichitt in southern Mauritania has been the subject of much archaeological attention, revealing successive layers of settlement near what still were small lakes as late as 1200 BCE. At this time people there built circular compounds, 60-100 feet in diameter, near the beaches of the lakes. (‘Compound’ is the name given to a housing type, still common today, in which several members of related families share space within a wall.) These compounds were arranged into large villages located about 12 miles from each other. Inhabitants fished, herded cattle and planted some millet, which they stored in pottery vessels. This was the last era of reasonable moisture in this part of the Sahara. By 1000 BCE the villages, still made up of compounds, had been relocated to hilltop positions, and were walled. Cattle were still herded, more millet was grown, but there were no more lakes for fishing. From 700-300 BCE the villages decreased in size and farming was reduced at the expense of pastoralism.

Architecturally, the villages of Dar Tichitt resemble those of the modern northern Mande (Soninke), who live in the savanna 300-400 miles to the south.These ancient villagers were not only farmers, but were engaged in trade connected with the salt and copper mines which developed to the north. Horse drawn vehicles passed through the Tichitt valley, bringing trading opportunities, ideas, and opening up the inhabitants to raids from their more nomadic northern neighbors (1). Development of the social and political organization necessary to handle commerce and defense must have been a factor in the subsequent development of Ghana, the first great Sudanic empire, in this part of West Africa.
Source: Ancient African Civilizations To ca. 1500: Text Supplement and Study Guide for History/PAS 393 Dr. Susan J. Herlin

The source not only states that Dhar Tichit was NOT in Ghana but Mauritania and that Ghana Empire came from Dhar Tichit but also that the Sonnike people were the people who founded the civilization, the Sonnike people who are NOT FOUND IN MODERN GHANA!

But more importantly:
Prime Minister Nkrumah's Gold Coast government issued a white paper containing proposals for Gold Coast independence in May 1956. The British government agreed to a firm date for independence when a majority of British Togoland residents voted for unification with an independent Gold Coast. On March 6, 1957, the state of Ghana, named after the medieval West African empire, became an independent country within the Commonwealth of Nations.
Untitled Document


Map of original Ghana Empire:
history-of-ghana0.gif


Map of Dhar Tichitt:
DomesticationofCattleinAfricaMarshallHildebrand.png


Neither were in Modern Ghana which was originally called the Gold coast.


What was your absurd argument again??? I swear some people on this site should stop speaking on things they don't know...:mjlol:
What is a historical documentary on african history that you take seriously? And if 1 historical innaccuracy was found in it, would you stop taking it seriously, friend? :ld: The thing with any large body of historic research is someone will always be able to find something that is debateable which still leaves friends with an overall quality product.

Abstract
The sandstone escarpment of the Dhar Tichitt in South-Central Mauritania was inhabited by Neolithic agropastoral communities for approximately one and half millennium during the Late Holocene, from ca. 4000 to 2300 BP. The absence of prior evidence of human settlement points to the influx of mobile herders moving away from the “drying” Sahara towards more humid lower latitudes. These herders took advantage of the peculiarities of the local geology and environment and succeeded in domesticating bulrush millet – Pennisetum sp. The emerging agropastoral subsistence complex had conflicting and/or complementary requirements depending on circumstances. In the long run, the social adjustment to the new subsistence complex, shifting site location strategies, nested settlement patterns and the rise of more encompassing polities appear to have been used to cope with climatic hazards in this relatively circumscribed area. An intense arid spell in the middle of the first millennium BC triggered the collapse of the whole Neolithic agropastoral system and the abandonment of the areas. These regions, resettled by sparse oasis-dwellers populations and iron-using communities starting from the first half of the first millennium AD, became part of the famous Ghana “empire”, the earliest state in West African history.

I dont think its as big a deal as you're making it out to be, friend. :sitdown:

Perhaps friend, you're thinking of modern borders and not, Ancient borders


Friend.
 
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