Tariq Nasheed and online FBA movement turns against Prof James Smalls — Smalls accused FBA of being funded by State Dept, FBI and CIA?

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75% that's a high percentage. Stats show that Black American Men date and Marry Black American Women:

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It's well known that we have a lot of cosplaying FBA's who are Non-FBA:



okayyy....but I'm talking about self proclaimed fbas on HERE.
 

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okayyy....but I'm talking about self proclaimed fbas on HERE.

Yes, me too. I am talking about Non-FBA's who have been caught self proclaiming as FBA's.

For example, your fellow immigrant posters @Billy Ocean, and @BaggerofTea. The list goes on and on of these Non-FBA's who have been caught self proclaiming as FBA's and have fetishes for Non-Black coochie.
 

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Let's not act like 3/4th of the self proclaimed FBAs on here aren't obsessed with latinas and white women
That loser cherry-picked a handful of post to build a [fake] narrative to deflect from the fact that he can't defend following someone who talked about pimping out children, claims to care about Black Americans, but is a staunch Trump supporter, or his going back and deleting all of those posts.

It's the same with a lot of these Tariq-following, hashtag weirdos. They're a contradiction. They care about Black Americans, but support racist authoritarians? Some have even straight up said they didn't give a fukk about how racist policies will harm us. @JT-Money

 

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Let's not act like 3/4th of the self proclaimed FBAs on here aren't obsessed with latinas and white women
Most of the of these "Latinas" are either racially ambiguous or Afro-Latinas. We also don't know the ethnic background of these Black men.


And though most Afro-Latinos identify as Hispanic or Latino, not all do so, according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on a survey of U.S. adults conducted from November 2019 to June 2020.”



Introduction​

“For the first time, the decennial census in 2020 prompted all respondents to provide detailed race and ethnicity responses. We also made improvements to question design, coding and processing, following extensive research and feedback from stakeholders and subject matter experts on detailed race and ethnicity reporting.

One of the improvements was using a combined Hispanic Origin and Race Code List for coding data from the ethnicity and race questions. By combining the code lists, we expanded the number of groups that could be coded in each question. For example, if someone reported their detailed Hispanic origin response in the race question, we were easily able to code it because all detailed Hispanic origin groups are included in the newly combined code list.

Our improvements include adding distinct codes for the specific responses of Afro-Latino and of Garifuna, also known as Garinagu, allowing for the tabulation of the number of people who provided these specific terms in response to the ethnicity question. With the release of the 2020 Census Detailed Demographic and Housing Characteristics File A (Detailed DHC-A), those counts are now available.

The U.S. Census Bureau recognizes that the Afro-Latino population is not limited to people who responded by providing the specific terms of Afro-Latino or Garifuna within their responses to the ethnicity question. The primary way of deriving counts for the Afro-Latino population is by tabulating those who identified as Hispanic or Latino in the ethnicity question and identified as Black or African American in the race question. Respondents could identify as Hispanic or Latino and Black or African American in many ways – by checking multiple boxes and/or writing in specific identities. In this paper, we present three different ways of tabulating Afro-Latino responses.

Again, the Census Bureau used stakeholder feedback to determine how to code Afro-Latino and Garifuna responses, and we plan to continue engaging stakeholders as we prepare for the 2030 Census.”

 

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That loser cherry-picked a handful of post to build a [fake] narrative to deflect from the fact that he can't defend following someone who talked about pimping out children, claims to care about Black Americans, but is a staunch Trump supporter, or his going back and deleting all of those posts.

It's the same with a lot of these Tariq-following, hashtag weirdos. They're a contradiction. They care about Black Americans, but support racist authoritarians? Some have even straight up said they didn't give a fukk about how racist policies will harm us. @JT-Money

Recently x (former Twitter) exposed East Indians posing as Black men and Black women. On that platform they were the catalyst to drive hatred between Black menaced Black women.

And years ago during the Keven Samuels days There was an East Indian man on several platforms. He came on a platform by a "conservative" far right white woman. This woman had a particular grief with Black women. They had a conversation, and I noticed he said something peculiar about Black men and Black women so-called gender war. He said that "they on the right path". The name of that YouTube channel was called Good Mother. This East Indian man also was on Jessica X and own a platform Black Women Sphere. Black Women Sphere was a friend of Cynthia G.

And on the site LSA (Lipstick Allay) is an East Indian woman called Lina Kumar, who repeatedly makes threads against Black men, to cause conflict between Black men and Black women.
 
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75% that's a high percentage. Stats show that Black American Men date and Marry Black American Women:

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It's well known that we have a lot of cosplaying FBA's who are Non-FBA:


There aren't enough Black immigrant men to fill the 25% gap. And it's true that a lot of FBA label identified are tethering to whiteness.



 
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That’s right, self proclaimed ABOS.

⭐ CARIBBEAN INDIVIDUALS WHO INFLUENCED U.S. BLACK HISTORY

Leaders, Rebels, and Cultural Figures
  • Estevanico (Esteban) — Moroccan/African explorer who traveled through Florida, Texas, and the Southwest under the Spanish Caribbean system (1520s).
  • Jemmy (Cato) — Leader of the Stono Rebellion (1739); likely seasoned in the Caribbean slave trade before arrival in South Carolina.
  • Denmark Vesey — Born in St. Thomas, Caribbean; led one of the biggest planned slave revolts in U.S. history (Charleston, 1822).
  • Jean Saint Malo — Leader of Maroons in Spanish Louisiana; influenced early Black freedom traditions (late 1700s).
  • Prince Hall — Born in Barbados; founder of African-American Freemasonry in Boston (1770s), influential in Northern Black political life.
  • Julien Raimond — Haitian free man of color; influenced Louisiana’s free Black political culture after migrating.
  • Pierre Toussaint — Haitian-born philanthropist who shaped early New York Black communities.
  • Black Seminole Leaders (many Caribbean-connected families):
    • Abraham (interpreter & diplomat, born in the Caribbean)
    • John Horse (Juan Caballo) — descendant of Caribbean Africans; key general in Seminole resistance
    • Nero, Hobo, Tony, and others who led Maroon–Seminole units
  • Saint-Domingue free people of color — Many migrated to New Orleans and reshaped Black culture, religion, music, and education.

🌴 CARIBBEAN-CONNECTED GROUPS
  • Jamaican Maroons — Their guerrilla warfare, political structure, and Maroon traditions influenced Black Seminoles and U.S. Maroons.
  • Bahamas-based Black communities — Migrants moved into Florida and mixed with Gullahs and Seminoles.
  • Free Blacks from Cuba & Puerto Rico — Helped form early Black militias and communities in Spanish Florida.
  • Haitian refugees — Tens of thousands migrated to Louisiana after 1791 and changed culture, politics, and population makeup.
 
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"In Haiti they won autonomy; in the United States they fled from the slave states in the South to the free states in the North and to Canada.
Here the Free Negroes helped form the Abolition Movement, and when that seemed to be failing, the Negroes began to plan for migration to Africa, Haiti and South America."


Dr. John Henry Clark - Collected Writings (2010)


Black Americans did flee (escape) to Canada, Mexico, several Caribbean nations, and Liberia, especially from the 1700s to the early 1900s. These migrations happened during slavery, Reconstruction, and Jim Crow. Here is the clear breakdown:


✅ 1. Escaping to Canada (Most Documented Route)


Yes — many enslaved Black Americans escaped to Canada, especially after the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, which made the U.S. unsafe even for freed Black people.

Why Canada?

  • Slavery was abolished in the British Empire in 1834.
  • Canada refused to return escaped enslaved people.
  • The Underground Railroad extended to Ontario (“Upper Canada”).

How many escaped to Canada?

  • Historians estimate 30,000–40,000 arrived from 1830–1865.
  • Communities formed in Ontario:
    • Windsor
    • Chatham
    • Buxton
    • Toronto

✅ 2. Escaping to Mexico

Yes — Mexico was another major escape destination, especially after Mexico abolished slavery in 1829.

Why Mexico?

  • Mexico refused to enforce U.S. fugitive slave laws.
  • Several Mexican states granted protection to escaped enslaved people.

Key areas

  • Coahuila, Tamaulipas, Veracruz
  • Some joined Black Seminoles, who migrated to Mexico in the 1850s and got land in Coahuila.

Black Seminoles in Mexico

  • They were known as Los Mascogos, living in Nacimiento, Coahuila.
  • Descendants still exist today.

✅ 3. Caribbean Destinations

Yes — Caribbean islands also received escaped, freed, or migrating Black Americans, especially after the American Revolution and during the 1800s.

Where did they go?

  • Bahamas — enslaved Americans came with Loyalists after 1783; others fled there by boat from the U.S. South.
  • Haiti — after Haiti became independent in 1804, it encouraged African Americans to migrate (particularly in 1820s).
  • Trinidad — during the “Merikin” settlement (ex-U.S. Marines who fought for Britain in 1812).
  • Barbados, Jamaica — some came fleeing U.S. racism during different periods.

✅ 4. Liberia (Major Organized Migration)


Yes — thousands of African Americans migrated to Liberia, though this was an organized movement rather than escape.

Who sent them?

  • The American Colonization Society (ACS) encouraged Black Americans — free or formerly enslaved — to move to West Africa.

How many?

  • Between 1822 and 1867, around 15,000 African Americans settled in Liberia.
  • Their descendants became known as Americo-Liberians, who later formed Liberia’s political elite.

📌 Summary Table


DestinationType of MigrationWhy They WentEstimated Numbers
CanadaEscape via Underground RailroadFreedom, protection from slave catchers30,000–40,000
MexicoEscape and settlementSlavery abolished in 1829; protected fugitivesSeveral thousand
Caribbean (Bahamas, Haiti, Trinidad)Escape + voluntary migrationBritish rule, abolition, freedom, military serviceThousands across regions
LiberiaOrganized migrationACS colonization efforts, seeking autonomy~15,000



🔥 Key Insight

Black Americans did not only flee north — they also fled south and east, depending on what countries guaranteed freedom and safety.


 
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Show me your posts admonishing Igbos and Yorubas, etc. for the same, or is this selective outrage because it's us?
Show me the people actually promising Blacks things worth voting for without using Trump/Republicans as excuses.
If you need someone to convince you not to be a useful idiot for cac racists then consult your family.

Looking for admonishing?? :hhh: Clearly the point is over your head but *looks at username* this was to be expected
 

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Show me your posts admonishing Igbos and Yorubas, etc. for the same, or is this selective outrage because it's us?
Show me the people actually promising Blacks things worth voting for without using Trump/Republicans as excuses.
That's interesting, so since none of us are familiar with this, I prompted ChatGTP (5.1 paid version) to gather this info,

ChatGTP Prompt: "Do people in Nigeria of different ethnic backgrounds and religious backgrounds marry each other"

Yes — people of different ethnic backgrounds and different religious backgrounds marry each other all over the world, including in Africa, Europe, the Americas, the Middle East, and Asia.

Here’s how it usually looks:


🌍 Ethnic Background Differences


People commonly marry across ethnic lines. Examples:
  • Nigeria: Yoruba–Igbo marriages, Hausa–Yoruba marriages, Fulani–Kanuri, etc.
  • USA & Europe: Interracial and inter-ethnic marriages are extremely common (Black–White, Asian–European, Latino–African, etc.)
  • Caribbean: Mixed African, Indian, Chinese, European backgrounds intermarry frequently.
Reasons: cities, schools, jobs, migration, and social mixing bring different groups together.


🕌✝️☪️🕉️ Religious Background Differences


Interfaith marriages also happen worldwide, such as:

  • Christian ↔ Muslim
  • Christian ↔ Jew
  • Muslim ↔ Traditional African religion
  • Hindu ↔ Muslim
  • Atheist ↔ Religious

Some families accept it easily; others discourage it depending on culture or religious rules.


🇳🇬 Example: Nigeria


Nigeria is one of the most diverse countries in the world. Interethnic and interfaith marriages happen, but acceptance varies:

  • Yoruba are generally the most open to interfaith marriage
  • Igbo accept it sometimes but with family discussions
  • Hausa/Fulani communities traditionally prefer same-faith marriages (especially Muslim)

Still, many couples marry across lines — especially in cities like Lagos, Abuja, and Port Harcourt.


💡 Real Example

Bola Ahmed Tinubu (Muslim, Yoruba)

married

Oluremi Tinubu (Christian, Yoruba)

This is both interfaith and cross-practice, though they share ethnicity.



If you want, I can give:

🔹 Specific examples from African countries

🔹 Statistics on interethnic or interfaith marriages

🔹 Reasons why these marriages succeed or face challenges


Just tell me which direction you want to explore.


Prompt: Are there stats?

Yes — there are studies and statistics about how common inter-ethnic and inter-religious (interfaith) marriages are, both globally and in regions like Sub-Saharan Africa / Nigeria. Here’s a summary of what research finds.

📊 Global / Africa-wide Stats on Inter-Ethnic and Inter-Religious Marriage

  • In a large study across many Sub-Saharan African countries, the average inter-ethnic marriage rate was about 22.3 %.
  • In the same study, inter-religious (interfaith) marriages were much rarer: on average only ~5 % of marriages involved spouses of different religions.
  • Some older estimates for Sub-Saharan Africa (circa mid-2000s) suggested roughly 20 % of marriages were inter-ethnic and about 10 % inter-faith.
  • For inter-ethnic marriages, a wider survey across many countries shows average rates of ≈ 19.4 %.

Bottom line: while inter-ethnic marriages are relatively common (often 1 in 5 marriages, depending on region), inter-religious marriages are less common — often between 1 in 20 and 1 in 10, when accounting for couples who do not convert before marriage.


🇳🇬 What Research Says About Inter-Faith / Inter-Ethnic Marriages in Nigeria & among Yoruba

  • A survey of people in the Yoruba-speaking region (Yorubaland) found about 9 % of respondents were currently married to someone of a different religion.
  • Including people who previously married someone of a different religion (before they converted), the “ever-interfaith” figure rises. In one study, the share rose to about 24.9 %.
  • Qualitative research on inter-faith marriages (especially Muslim–Christian unions) notes they do occur, but couples often “face marital hurdles,” including social/family pressure, religious-practice compromises, and community scrutiny.

Thus, while inter-faith marriages are not the majority by far, they are present — especially in more religiously-diverse or urbanized areas, or among groups historically more open to religious diversity (like parts of Yoruba society).


⚠️ Why Stats Vary & What to Interpret With Caution

  • Definitions matter: “Inter-faith” may exclude marriages where one spouse converts before marriage, so reported rates can understate “mixed-background” unions.
  • Regional differences: In some regions / ethnic-religious groups (or more conservative subcultures), inter-faith marriage may be strongly discouraged — reducing reported rates.
  • Urban vs rural divide: Modernization factors — urban living, higher education, mixing at work/school — tend to increase inter-ethnic marriages; but inter-religious marriage patterns are often more stable.
  • Underreporting: Social stigma might cause underreporting of inter-faith marriages in conservative areas.


✅ What This Means for Countries Like Nigeria

  • Inter-ethnic marriages — i.e. spouses from different ethnic groups — are relatively common and becoming more prevalent over time.
  • Inter-faith marriages (different religions) are less common — but not vanishingly rare. They are more likely in regions / communities with more religious tolerance, urbanization, education, and mixed-ethnic populations (e.g. southwestern Nigeria, major cities, diaspora).
  • Where they occur, inter-faith marriages may come with challenges (family pressure, social expectations, raising children in mixed-faith households), but also can serve as bridges between communities and contribute to social cohesion.


If you like — I can try to pull up a spreadsheet summarizing ~10 recent empirical studies (with year, country/region, % inter-ethnic, % inter-faith) — so you get a clear comparative overview.

Do you want me to build that for you now?

Prompt: A list specific to Nigeria only...

Here is a Nigeria-only bullet-point list with the most reliable statistics on inter-ethnic and inter-religious marriages.


🇳🇬 Nigeria-Only Statistics on Inter-Ethnic & Inter-Religious Marriage

🔹 Inter-Ethnic Marriage (Nigeria)

  • Nigeria has over 250+ ethnic groups, so inter-ethnic marriage is very common in cities.
  • National surveys estimate 15–25% of marriages in Nigeria are inter-ethnic.
  • Rates are highest in Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt, and university environments.
  • Yoruba–Igbo marriages are among the most common inter-ethnic unions.
  • Inter-ethnic marriage is generally more accepted among Yoruba than in northern groups.
  • Mixing increases with education level and urbanization.
  • In Northern Nigeria, inter-ethnic marriage is less common due to stronger cultural boundaries.


🔹 Inter-Religious (Inter-Faith) Marriage (Nigeria)

  • Nationwide, the estimated rate of inter-faith marriages is 5–10%.
  • In Yoruba regions, surveys show:
    • About 9% currently in inter-faith marriages.
    • Up to 25% have ever been in an inter-faith relationship or marriage (including conversions).
  • The most common inter-faith pairing:
    Muslim man ↔ Christian woman in Yoruba areas.
  • In Northern Nigeria, inter-faith marriage is much rarer (near 0–2%) due to social and religious restrictions.
  • In the Middle Belt (e.g., Plateau, Benue), rates are higher because the region is religiously mixed.
  • Inter-faith couples often face:
    • Family pressure
    • Questions about how to raise children
    • Community or religious expectations

🔹 Key Points About Nigeria

  • Inter-ethnic marriages are more common than inter-faith marriages.
  • Urban areas = more diversity and higher mixing.
  • Rural and conservative northern regions = lowest rates of inter-faith marriage.
  • Yoruba culture historically allows more flexibility in marriage across religion.
  • Ethnicity tends to be less of a barrier than religion in Nigeria.
  • Examples of public inter-faith marriages:
    • Bola Ahmed Tinubu (Muslim) married Oluremi Tinubu (Christian)



If you want, I can also create:

✅ A state-by-state comparison (e.g., Lagos vs Kano vs Enugu)

✅ A table with percentages

✅ A timeline of how these marriages changed since the 1960s

Just tell me which version you want.


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If you need someone to convince you not to be a useful idiot for cac racists then consult your family.

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Here is an analysis done by Garrison Hayes. I agree with his talking points, besides the claim that Kamala is a black woman. And to be honest I dislike Cynthia Erivo because of the many disgusting things she has said and done. So I do understand why Black Americans are galvanising against this.

He did interview Yvette Carnell, and agrees with the specificity for Black Americans as ADOS (as do I, agree with this too).

Garrison Hayes explains how children of Black immigrant families become more integrated into Black America the longer they stay in the States. he dresses the most important question, what happens to Black America next, when all bridges have been burned down? He stated, they sure have something, "but I don't know what it is?"

The Diaspora Wars: Who gets to be Black?

 
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