Tariq nasheed finally went too far

[TRY GOD]

I'm curious why the pro-black agenda has not shifted toward politics, and I dont mean talking about it for the sake of talking but actually the collective pushing towards a black agenda creating a PAC. Every elections I'm hearing dont vote, because said candidate didnt address black people, but we have yet to create a PUSH to bring forth an agenda. Its more easy to point out the discrepancies in the system but sticking your head out for black politics is the biggest risk obviously. Tariq can GoFundMe for every movie he make, but dont want to raise funds for a political effort to gain a voice with these politicians who are running. Instead folks would rather demean black ppl who choose to vote.

you sound hurt:mjwait:

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi was first published in 1960.
That would have been 12 years after his death. That would have been the first time that all(most) of his writings,speeches, and correspondence letters would have been available to the public.
Unless you can point me to evidence that the men you listed were privy to these "savage""kaffir" and dirisive comments about Africans by Gandhi during his lifetime or prior to the publication of TCWMG, your claim of them caping for Gandhi ring hollow.

Breh, that stuff wasn't first published in TCWMG, mouch of that was already published works that were just put together after his death. One of those quotes was from an open letter to the South African parliament, others are from letters to newspapers and public speeches, a few were from The Green Pamphlet which was one of the most widely-distributed and infamous things Gandhi ever wrote during his South African period (he heavily criticized the South African government, and they even besieged Gandhi's ship for three days because public outcry by White people against Gandhi was so great they thought the mobs were going to kill him).

Not to mention that a lot of that praise from African leaders came AFTER 1960. MLK Jr. of course repeatedly praised Gandhi long after TCWMG was published, and if you've ever been to the museum as his birthplace in Atlanta you'd see that his study of Gandhi was extensive. The quote from Luthuli praising Gandhi was from his 1962 autobiography. Nkomo's praise of Gandhi is from his 1984 book. Azikiwe's praise was from his 1970 autobiography. Nkrumah wrote and spoke of Gandhi numerous times throughout the 1960s. Mandela and Desmond Tutu repeatedly praised Gandhi throughout the 20th and even into the 21st century, even though they said they knew full well of Gandhi's earlier racist attitude. Madiba said decades ago:

“Gandhi must be forgiven those prejudices and judged in the context of the time and circumstances. We are looking here at the young Gandhi, still to become Mahatma, when he was without any human prejudice save that in favour of truth and justice.”

And I saw from your link were trying to make up stuff claiming that Gandhi was a soldier fighting against the Black Africans. Breh, he was a stretcher-bearer who specifically gave medical treatment TO the South Africans. The violence he saw committed there, the strength of the Zulu and the brutality of the British was one of the big moments for him in realized that any racism against Zulus was wrong. Nelson Mandela addressed this decades ago:

“His awakening came on the hilly terrain of the so-called Bambatha rebellion… British brutality against the Zulus roused his soul against violence as nothing had done before. He determined on that battlefield to wrest himself of all material attachments and devote himself completely and totally to eliminating violence and serving humanity.”

Gandhi has spoken of what he saw there himself:

“I witnessed some of the horrors that were perpetrated on the Zulus during the Zulu Rebellion. Because one man, Bambatta, their chief, had refused to pay his tax, the whole race was made to suffer. I was in charge of an ambulance corps. I shall never forget the lacerated backs of Zulus who had received stripes and were brought to us for nursing because no white nurse was prepared to look after them. And yet those who perpetrated all those cruelties called themselves Christians. They were ‘educated’, better dressed than the Zulus, but not their moral superiors.”

On reaching the scene of the 'rebellion', I saw that there was nothing there to justify the name of 'rebellion'. There was no resistance that one could see. The reason why the disturbance had been magnified into a rebellion was that a Zulu chief had advised non-payment of a new tax imposed on his people, and had assagaied a sergeant who had gone to collect the tax. At any rate my heart was with the Zulus, and I was delighted, on reaching headquarters, to hear that our main work was to be the nursing of the wounded Zulus. The Medical Officer in charge welcomed us. He said the white people were not willing nurses for the wounded Zulus, that their wounds were festering, and that he was at his wits' end. He hailed our arrival as a godsend for those innocent people, and he equipped us with bandages, disinfectants, etc., and took us to the improvised hospital. The Zulus were delighted to see us. The white soldiers used to peep through the railings that separated us from them and tried to dissuade us from attending to the wounds. And as we would not heed them, they became enraged and poured unspeakable abuse on the Zulus.

“We found that the wounded Zulus would have been left uncared for, if we had not attended to them. No European would help to dress their wounds. Dr Savage, who was in charge of the ambulance, was himself a very humane person. It was no part of our duty to nurse the wounded after we had taken them to hospital. But we had joined the war with a desire to do all we could, no matter whether it did or did not fall within the scope of our work. The good Doctor told us that he could not induce Europeans to nurse the Zulus, that it was beyond his power to compel them and that he would feel obliged if we undertook this mission of mercy. We were only too glad to do this.”

You're talking Black people who were his actual neighbors, his actual friends, who corresponded with him in life and studied him in death, and then claiming you know more about Gandhi's attitudes than they did because someone linked you a few cherry-picked quotes out of context. Even though you've got some of the most basic details of his life completely wrong. At this point your hubris and disrespect is out of control. I'm definitely siding with Dube, Tema, DuBois, Garvey, Harrison, Johnson, MLK, Hughes, Kano, Nkrumah, Azikiwe, Mandela, Luthuli, Tutu, Nyerere, Kaunda, and Nkomo over you and some keyboard warriors slipping in with no context 100+ years after the fact and claiming you know more than the freedom fighters who were actually there.

 

[StretfordRed]

If anyone's the agent/clown, it's you all who aren't questioning the way we vote (unconditional support of Democratic Party without any specific set asides for black ppl), which hasn't generated any economic benefits for black ppl collectively over the last 70 years. Black wealth as % of total wealth is the same now (2%) as it was in 1950.

But you’re not seeing the wider point

Would you rather vote for Trumps party and the openly racist governors, senators, base who have shown no reason to explicitly back the black voters, or even shown any inclination that they will help black people in any shape or form. What policies did de Santos propose to black community vs Gilliam?

Or would you vote for the party with actual black governors, senators, etc and work with them from the inside rather than the outside. Anyone who does business or works in a professional field will tell you it’s easier to crack deals rom the inside, rather than from the outside

I think if we step back from this and understand this “no vote” behaviour, we see it’s like little kids throwing their toys out of the park because they haven’t got what they want

To work with any party you have to bring shyt to the table. Instead all you no voters are doing is sitting back and complaining on this forum or on Twitter and not bringing shyt to the tables of the politicians. How do you expect them to do anything for you? The LGBT community stomped their feet and the tables until they got change. But the no vote black community think they can just sit back and get their way

I think people who do not vote are literally stupid idiots and deserve everything coming their way

You have no end goal.

No vote and do what?

Form your own political party? Lol. The dude you look up to can’t even form his life properly, and that’s your daddy??

fukk outta here man

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I'm curious why the pro-black agenda has not shifted toward politics, and I dont mean talking about it for the sake of talking but actually the collective pushing towards a black agenda creating a PAC. Every elections I'm hearing dont vote, because said candidate didnt address black people, but we have yet to create a PUSH to bring forth an agenda. Its more easy to point out the discrepancies in the system but sticking your head out for black politics is the biggest risk obviously. Tariq can GoFundMe for every movie he make, but dont want to raise funds for a political effort to gain a voice with these politicians who are running. Instead folks would rather demean black ppl who choose to vote.

Does this mean that the pro voters need to push a PAC before the next voting cycle?

 

[Mr.bocario]

How? A new message promulgated by WHO, exactly?

This p*ssy ass generation is completely indifferent and inactive. It was the YOUTH who spearheaded the civil rights movement. These bytch ass kids today ain't bout that life, nikkas on THIS SITE ain't about that life.

nikkas can't even DECIDE ON THE MESSAGE they supposedly wanna support.

The civil rights movement was co opted by boule(frats/Soro) and white liberals it might have had the best intentions, but it evolved into nothing more than a couple of nikkas that want a seat at YTs table

Those same old guard negros are being used as mascot by zaddy in 2018

 

[deeznutz93]

The civil rights movement was co opted by boule(frats/Soro) and white liberals it might have had the best intentions, but it evolved into nothing more than a couple of nikkas that want a seat at YTs table

Those same old guard negros are being used as mascot by zaddy in 2018

The civil rights movement died when king was murdered by the government.

 

[deeznutz93]

Tariq is picking the wrong hill to die on with this don't vote shyt he spewing.
You can't always go against the grain smh

Tariq is an idiot

 

[deeznutz93]

There always was and still is a subsection of the black community that thrive off of our suffering just to make themselves a buck and they pretend it isn't so, Phillip Scott did the same thing and people were calling him out too.

This wasn't the election for a protest non vote

 

[deeznutz93]

One thing that hasn't been said yet is what tariq has to gain with his anti- black vote campaign. If black vote do not vote and in essence the dems lose this election.

The current extremely toxic and racist environment under trump and the GOP is great for Tariq's business. he profits primarily from "exposing white/non black racism towards black people" and the more incidences and cases of racism, white nationalist terrorism and police brutality there are, the better for tariq's hustle/business.

To borrow nbc news ceo comment regarding trump in 2016 "Trump is bad for America but very good for business/TV ratings

Tariq has a platform. He could have spent months/years coming up with an Idea for a black agenda and starting grassroots movements calling politicians out and presenting that agenda . He wait until the week of elections to discourage people not to vote Democratic.

Now he's saying we need to come up with an economic base 1st. When the majority of black people under 40 are in debt or poor. He's an idiot that doesn't read anything

 

[deeznutz93]

What money do black people have to create an economic base.

No group in the history of this country has created an economic base without government.

 

[deeznutz93]

So give up fighting? And black people gotta drag everyone else down? That sounds like a quitter, and no history book respects a quitter that does nothing against the face of injustice.

If Aados are going out. I want to go out guns blazing. I'm never giving up on myself and people.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

What money do black people have to create an economic base.

No group in the history of this country has created an economic base without government.

The money we spend on Jordans,flat screens,trendy clothes,designer bags etc

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Tariq is an idiot

So you think you're smarter than Tariq?

 

[deeznutz93]

The money we spend on Jordans,flat screens,trendy clothes,designer bags etc

Wow, this response was so dumb. I don't even know where to start. You post reeks of self hatred.

I don't think you realize how broke black people are. Stunting doesn't equate to money. Especially compared to the money white people have.

We're not even on the same playing field.

 

[deeznutz93]

So you think you're smarter than Tariq?

The sad part about this question, is that you think tariq is smart.