Tariq Nasheed was part of the video that started the downfall of Hip Hop

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@ the 1:49 mark...


This was a discussion on Hot97 in the early 2000's. Hot 97 changed its format from dance/freestyle to Hip Hop in 1993. And prior to this song Hot 97, had a certain standard, it didnt allow low brow bamma fukkery on its airways....U didnt hear songs from that whole 2Live Crew/Luke movement in the early 90's .....Sir Mix A Lot had girls putting them on the glass back in the day but Hot97 wasnt having it.......Now you did hear Scarface and you did hear Snoop because NYC only allowed quality....... but when early 1997 hit , the song "My Baby Daddy" won battle of the beats for a week on Hot97 which didnt even sound right(Even Angie Martinez had to sigh), so now we had this bamma ass song getting heavy airplay in NYC. The high standard was now loward. Soon afterward Master P and his "lacking of hot lyrics" crew started getting heavy rotation in NYC airways and its been downhill ever since. Once FunkMaster Flex(The man who sh*tted on Shaq and Deon Sanders because they were trying to rap in the mid 90's ) started spinning E.I. by Nelly, the NYC standard had changed forever and the flood gates of fukkery and wack rappers had fully infultrated on a mainstream level because Hot97 was the standard. And it all started with this one song. Listening to this song now....It fits so well with the current climate of ratchetness but back then it didnt. The bamma-ness of this song (WHO DAT IS??....THAT AINT NOBODY!!!, yeah because the baby daddy is a nobody) was something that was kinda looked down on by a few from the previous generation(The same way Black folks who cant talk right on camera is still looked down on). This current generation tho, welcomes this type of ratchetness



Now I fuxx with Tariq Nasheed all day and its obvious he was younger in the video and back then we didnt know who he was and he's obviously on another level to where he wouldnt even be apart of such nonsense in this climate...But I find it a little bit funny and ironic how years later dude is the advocate for anti-rachetness but was in the 1 video that opened the floodgates for ratchet acceptance in Hip Hop.
 

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i fukks with you for the most part, but this sounds like that arrogant new york talk that nikkas cant fukking stand.

Times change,saying this song started the downfall of hip hop would imply that hot 97 was in charge of it when nikkas out here in the west could give a fukk what was playing there.
 

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i fukks with you for the most part, but this sounds like that arrogant new york talk that nikkas cant fukking stand.

Times change,saying this song started the downfall of hip hop would imply that hot 97 was in charge of it when nikkas out here in the west could give a fukk what was playing there.



I hear what you are saying. But in all honesty, NYC was the standard.

The reality is this...NYC was the go to standard by the majors and the top distributors. Thats why the south and the west had to go the indie route in the 80's because they didnt meet the "standards" started by NYC, evn tho their independence did allow them to make noise on their own. The top dogs always leaned towards what NYC was doing in the early years.

When Me Against The World was out, Hot97 was playing Old School by 2pac and it wasnt even a single. Coolio's "Gangsters Paradise"..."Smile" by Face and Pac. I still have the tape where I recorded off the radio where Angie Martinez asks Smooth The Hustler and Trigga The Gambler "Do ya'll like "Cell Therapy" by Goodie Mobb??" and they both replied "Yeaaaaaahhh" as the intro to the song started to play.

Trust me....what Hot97 was playing was more universal then u probabaly think.
 

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@ the 1:49 mark...


This was a discussion on Hot97 in the early 2000's. Hot 97 changed its format from dance/freestyle to Hip Hop in 1993. And prior to this song Hot 97, had a certain standard, it didnt allow low brow bamma fukkery on its airways....U didnt hear songs from that whole 2Live Crew/Luke movement in the early 90's .....Sir Mix A Lot had girls putting them on the glass back in the day but Hot97 wasnt having it.......Now you did hear Scarface and you did hear Snoop because NYC only allowed quality....... but when early 1997 hit , the song "My Baby Daddy" won battle of the beats for a week on Hot97 which didnt even sound right(Even Angie Martinez had to sigh), so now we had this bamma ass song getting heavy airplay in NYC. The high standard was now loward. Soon afterward Master P and his "lacking of hot lyrics" crew started getting heavy rotation in NYC airways and its been downhill ever since. Once FunkMaster Flex(The man who sh*tted on Shaq and Deon Sanders because they were trying to rap in the mid 90's ) started spinning E.I. by Nelly, the NYC standard had changed forever and the flood gates of fukkery and wack rappers had fully infultrated on a mainstream level because Hot97 was the standard. And it all started with this one song. Listening to this song now....It fits so well with the current climate of ratchetness but back then it didnt. The bamma-ness of this song (WHO DAT IS??....THAT AINT NOBODY!!!, yeah because the baby daddy is a nobody) was something that was kinda looked down on by a few from the previous generation(The same way Black folks who cant talk right on camera is still looked down on). This current generation tho, welcomes this type of ratchetness



Now I fuxx with Tariq Nasheed all day and its obvious he was younger in the video and back then we didnt know who he was and he's obviously on another level to where he wouldnt even be apart of such nonsense in this climate...But I find it a little bit funny and ironic how years later dude is the advocate for anti-rachetness but was in the 1 video that opened the floodgates for ratchet acceptance in Hip Hop.


:mjlol:

But truthfully, this song is terrible. Dude saying the hook isn't even pronouncing his S's in is. I remember Starr was clowning this Bama anthem back in the day
 

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@ the 1:49 mark...


This was a discussion on Hot97 in the early 2000's. Hot 97 changed its format from dance/freestyle to Hip Hop in 1993. And prior to this song Hot 97, had a certain standard, it didnt allow low brow bamma fukkery on its airways....U didnt hear songs from that whole 2Live Crew/Luke movement in the early 90's .....Sir Mix A Lot had girls putting them on the glass back in the day but Hot97 wasnt having it.......Now you did hear Scarface and you did hear Snoop because NYC only allowed quality....... but when early 1997 hit , the song "My Baby Daddy" won battle of the beats for a week on Hot97 which didnt even sound right(Even Angie Martinez had to sigh), so now we had this bamma ass song getting heavy airplay in NYC. The high standard was now loward. Soon afterward Master P and his "lacking of hot lyrics" crew started getting heavy rotation in NYC airways and its been downhill ever since. Once FunkMaster Flex(The man who sh*tted on Shaq and Deon Sanders because they were trying to rap in the mid 90's ) started spinning E.I. by Nelly, the NYC standard had changed forever and the flood gates of fukkery and wack rappers had fully infultrated on a mainstream level because Hot97 was the standard. And it all started with this one song. Listening to this song now....It fits so well with the current climate of ratchetness but back then it didnt. The bamma-ness of this song (WHO DAT IS??....THAT AINT NOBODY!!!, yeah because the baby daddy is a nobody) was something that was kinda looked down on by a few from the previous generation(The same way Black folks who cant talk right on camera is still looked down on). This current generation tho, welcomes this type of ratchetness



Now I fuxx with Tariq Nasheed all day and its obvious he was younger in the video and back then we didnt know who he was and he's obviously on another level to where he wouldnt even be apart of such nonsense in this climate...But I find it a little bit funny and ironic how years later dude is the advocate for anti-ratchetness but was in the 1 video that opened the floodgates for ratchet acceptance in Hip Hop.


Well its many facets to the downfall of hip hop and it can't just be pinpointed to one video. Just like many other terrestrial radio conglomerates.

Hot 97 is owned and controlled by white billionaires sometimes of Jewish descent.

What started the so called 'ratchet' movement in the south is the indie artists and record labels that would catch the attention of these white owned Major record companies to monopolize the industry and change the quality standard of music based off of return on investment.

Remember, the sound and talent of RnB and Hip Hop Artists always changes but the owners and power structure never do aka White Supremacy.
 

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What started the so called 'ratchet' movement in the south is the indie artists and record labels that would catch the attention of these white owned Major record companies to monopolize the industry and change the quality standard of music based off of return on investment.


Sounds like you just mentioned the exact song in the OP


:jbhmm:




Why didnt Ny nikkas hold on to and monetize hiphop themselves?


Are you talking about a monopoly?? Afrikka Bambatta's vision was for Hip Hop to be worldwide not monopolized.
 
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