Taxstone - "Prodigy ain't no damn legend. Mobb is legendary. But as a individual artist he trash"
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EASTATLJERU
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Once again u got mf like taxtone who doesn't know shyt about rap commenting on rappers. He's worse than charlagmange. This guy talks tough and thrives off controversy. But in reality he's a brooklyn ex goon who barely knows his hip hop history. You can tell by all his interviews he knows these nikkas personal lives more than the actual music. Prodigy has had plenty of good solo projects and in the beginning before his decline he was the best rapper in the group.
An idiot lol
I can lol. His pen is good but that's not his bread and butter. He's a good lyricist but his strength is voice and delivery
He's not Em, G Rap, Canibus, Pun, Ras Kass, Nas, Rakim, Crooked I, Lupe Fiasco, Jay-Z etc where you hear a verse and say "Holy fukk, did you hear that shyt? How did he come up with that???" At least not to me.
I put him in the category of a Scarface and an Ice Cube. Some of the greatest rappers ever, that are good lyricist but not overly complex and won't blow you away with their rhymes on paper but will blow you a way how they say the rhymes.
First of all, that Bloodsport verse reads nice on paper. It's not as nice as Nas but it's not basic either. Basic nikkas don't use vocab like "delinquent", "hydro cloud" and "counterattack." or even have a quotable like the one I highlighted. You're reaching like crazy. Do you even know what the word 'basic' means?
Secondly, why are you consistently quoting shyt that P isn't celebrated for? You're supposed to confront the argument head-on instead of reaching for exceptions. People think P has great writing based off Shook Ones, Survival of the Fittest, Quiet Storm, Keep It Thoro, I Shot Ya Remix, Still Shinin, Thun & Kicko, GOD Part 3, Hell on Earth, Apostle's Warning, Drop a Gem on Em, etc. Discuss THAT shyt. Tell us why those verses are basic.
You know damn well what you're doing. You're just playing dumb, as expected. And when pressed, catch feelings. Won't be the first time
To Fresh's point, I do think Prodigy's delivery with really underrated. I just don't think it comes at an expense to his lyricism. This is actually the first time I've really seen/heard someone argue the he wasn't an elite lyricist in his prime. 
Son the verses your pointing to would make my argument stronger. They're way more straight forward and basic than the ones I'm referencing. I can tell you didn't read what I said because I specifically singled out Hell on Earth second verse and Apostle Warning as stand outs in his catalog. His Shook Ones, I Shot Ya remix, Survival of the Fittest, etc are the definition of "delivered great, but reads okayish" because those are too easy. Those aren't good examples of reading great on paper. What are you taking about? I was looking for verses that are lyrically close to his delivery but still fall short. I can tell you're not well versed in Prodigy raps because you're just talking about his most popular verses not his most lyrical.First of all, that Bloodsport verse reads nice on paper. It's not as nice as Nas but it's not basic either. Basic nikkas don't use vocab like "delinquent", "hydro cloud" and "counterattack." or even have a quotable like the one I highlighted. You're reaching like crazy. Do you even know what the word 'basic' means?
Secondly, why are you consistently quoting shyt that P isn't celebrated for? You're supposed to confront the argument head-on instead of reaching for exceptions. People think P has great writing based off Shook Ones, Survival of the Fittest, Quiet Storm, Keep It Thoro, I Shot Ya Remix, Still Shinin, Thun & Kicko, GOD Part 3, Hell on Earth, Apostle's Warning, Drop a Gem on Em, etc. Discuss THAT shyt. Tell us why those verses are basic.
You know damn well what you're doing. You're just playing dumb, as expected. And when pressed, catch feelings. Won't be the first time
I'm just comparing him to the elite of the elite that's all. I'm not saying he's not a dope writer because he is but that was never why I thought Prodigy was an elite MC. I rarely was blown away by what he said but how he said it? No question.To Fresh's point, I do think Prodigy's delivery with really underrated. I just don't think it comes at an expense to his lyricism. This is actually the first time I've really seen/heard someone argue the he wasn't an elite lyricist in his prime.
Frida Giezman
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Yall have yet to prove otherwise,what album or even song by them had a big impact with west coast,south nikkas
This is a easy question,and obvious for every other legend that i can think of
According to P mobb deep had a big following in Cali from early on
I feel you with regard to guys like Cube, Scarface, Snoop, etc. I just can't see how you think Prodigy is straight forward but guys like Pun and Crooked I aren't? Unless you put a premium on rapping fast or punchlines? Prodigy bends the English language, uses words that don't exist. He's a great storyteller and has some of the illest imagery in the genre. He has a unique vocabulary.In his prime, even his rhyme schemes were ill and unorthodox. I don't know, I just don't see it.
But I feel your overall point though.
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Then why didn't you mention them, line for line? and more importantly, tell us why they're basic. You just keep saying "they basic! they basic" like a child and you haven't remotely said why.that's how you can tell?
what a reach."There's a war going on outside no man is safe from" is BASIC to you?
"I put my lifetime in between the paper's lines" is BASIC to you? Do you even know what 'basic' means? Just because it's crystal clear and easy to understand doesn't make it basic. It's poetic as fukk. Just like Prodigy's best work. Nowhere near basic. It takes a very smart person to come up with shyt like that.and miss me with the "i can tell" blah blah blah. I'm one of the few cats on this site that keeps everything music. You're incapable of discussion and you're looking for any excuse to check out. If you stand by something, be a man and state your case in depth. Don't chicken out.
Yes, that would be correct. However, for arguments sake Black Thought would have more claim to be legendary status as he has effectively carried the frontman duties since Phrenology.
But these 3 aren't even the same as the others. Nas is the GOAT because his ish reads like pure poetry, not cause of his analogies, similes, wordplay, metaphors. He's not complex, and Jay is pretty basic with his stuff, but heavy on wordplay that's not really complex. Cani, Ras, Pun, Crooked, Em are G Rap spinoffs...heavy on that similes/metaphor style.
But take something like P's verse in HOE. Just straight comin at you...relentless. But to each his own.
Frida Giezman
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His imagery and story telling was crazy thought at one point
U need a serious pen game for that
U don't have to be wordy to be nice on paper