TAY ROC VS JC SMACK/ URL

Who Won?

  • Tay Roc

    Votes: 36 54.5%
  • JC

    Votes: 23 34.8%
  • Debatable

    Votes: 7 10.6%

  • Total voters
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He had waaaay better bars. That's really the only argument needed. It's not even close who had better bars.

If you think Tay won, that's cool, but it's not cause he had better rhymes.

Tay had the all around better package and product. Nobody thinks tay roc is bar for bar with JC but used all his other skills accordingly and made it happen.

Whereas JC didn't prepare for the battle, brought a bunch of bars that didn't pertain to anything and couldn't connect with the crowd or youtube until the round he did prepare came.
 

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I guess according to JC Stan's Canibus is the best rapper of all time cuz lyrically hes amazing, and Ray Allen is the GOAT basketball player cuz he hit the most threes.

Doing one thing really well is all that matters to you guys. It's really about who had the best OVERALL PACKAGE, and Tay Roc did no debating.

I could go up there on URL and spot quadruple entendres with no charisma, delivery or timing--then get bodied by a nikka like tay roc who doesn't do one thing GREAT but does a multitude of things very good.
 

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I could go up there on URL and spot quadruple entendres with no charisma, delivery or timing--then get bodied by a nikka like tay roc who doesn't do one thing GREAT but does a multitude of things very good.

:heh: the jack of all trades title is reserved for rappers like AyeVerb, Hollow, Hitman & Surf.

Tay Roc is the same thing you accuse JC of being, one dimensional. He has great energy and projection...that's it.
 

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I guess according to JC Stan's Canibus is the best rapper of all time cuz lyrically hes amazing, and Ray Allen is the GOAT basketball player cuz he hit the most threes.

Doing one thing really well is all that matters to you guys. It's really about who had the best OVERALL PACKAGE, and Tay Roc did no debating.

I could go up there on URL and spot quadruple entendres with no charisma, delivery or timing--then get bodied by a nikka like tay roc who doesn't do one thing GREAT but does a multitude of things very good.

No he's not. He was for a 2 year period a great lyricist, but he's not even close to the best lyricist ever.

JC has no delivery or timing? Really? He has incredible delivery and timing. That's a horrible comparison.
 

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Tay Roc doesn't rap better, doesn't have better delivery, better flow, bettr timing or anything than JC. He has more energy and he's louder. That's all he does better.

Y'all trying to act like this is a "pure lyricist with nothing else" vs. "a jack of all trades" battle, when that's not even close to the case. Everything you claiming Tay Roc is good at, JC is better at, except for having more energy and more dikkriders. JC has incredible delivery. How else could a nikka that was caught doing some fakkit ass dances for Chris Stokes still be taken seriously? Because his delivery makes him sound believable. There's a reason people like Heartless, who probably have a top 5 pen game in battle rap never wins and is never taken seriously, because his delivery and timing is trash. He only has lyrics.
 

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Tay Roc doesn't rap better, doesn't have better delivery, better flow, bettr timing or anything than JC. He has more energy and he's louder. That's all he does better.

Y'all trying to act like this is a "pure lyricist with nothing else" vs. "a jack of all trades" battle, when that's not even close to the case. Everything you claiming Tay Roc is good at, JC is better at, except for having more energy and more dikkriders. JC has incredible delivery. How else could a nikka that was caught doing some fakkit ass dances for Chris Stokes still be taken seriously? Because his delivery makes him sound believable. There's a reason people like Heartless, who probably have a top 5 pen game in battle rap never wins and is never taken seriously, because his delivery and timing is trash. He only has lyrics.

Im kind of confused on what you arguing here fresh. Are you arguing that JC is better than roc? cause i dont think anyone thinks otherwise or are you still arguing that JC won?
 

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Im kind of confused on what you arguing here fresh. Are you arguing that JC is better than roc? cause i dont think anyone thinks otherwise or are you still arguing that JC won?

Well I think JC won but my only argument was really against Y2K statement trying to act like JC is only lyrics when he's clearly the entire package too as a battle rapper. He was trying to act like JC is a Heartless type battler where it's ONLY lyrics and nothing else. I'm just saying that assertion is ridiculous.
 

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No he's not. He was for a 2 year period a great lyricist, but he's not even close to the best lyricist ever.

JC has no delivery or timing? Really? He has incredible delivery and timing. That's a horrible comparison.

Read more, I didn't say he had bad timing I was just using that as an example regarding why those things matter in a battle regardless of how good some one may be lyrically. All bars with nothing else will result in a loss 99% of the time
 

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Tay Roc was nice against Ill Will (second round), against B Magic he had some really dope shyt

He even had some dope shyt in this JC battle to be honest. The issue wasn't that everything he said was bad, it was that he got crazy gassed for basic bars. But he still said some cold shyt. The Pontiac line was cold (though he could've did it better), the Exorcism/Possess, etc..
 
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