Teacher Shortages

[Monsanto]

Earn an average of $80k/year while getting a two week break in the spring, 3 month vacation in the summer, 10+ personal days a year, and all major holidays off while complaining about being underpaid teacher-brehs/brehettes.

You think teachers are only working 8-3?

Their prep time puts Batman to shame. They have to organize a curriculum that adheres to the district's standards and that takes serious time. Add in grading, evaluations, parent teacher meetings and clubs.

Not strange to hear them having 16 hour days with preparation included.

America has a shortage and Canada has a surplus. Teachers here have been working overseas and the States forever due to that fact.

Add in that working at Costco gets you a better salary...

Seen some salaries at 37K in the States



I'd love to become a teacher, I just know I'd be butting heads with the administration.

 

[valet]

Do you honestly believe kids in this society have the work ethic to do that? In theory, it could work, since the retail and restaurant industry needs workers, an adults aren’t trying to work for those wages. But these kids are spoiled, and used to having things handed to them.

I work at a high school (Detroit). I work with low-income kids so alot them don't live the spoil life. If anything work is necessary. I'm not denying it's spoil kids though. But a short school day would help alot. Plus being to come home earlier to do school work.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Real talk if you are young and have a degree between the ages of 20s to early 40s and haven't gotten anywhere with your career and aren't making any decent money. But live in a major city I would encourage some folks to look into the teacher cert program.

These big cities have a teacher shortage cause all the old timers are retiring due to covid and due to them not being able to understand the technology to do distant learning.

You would be surprised how many older teachers know absolutely nothing about computers. You got 60 and 70 year old teachers who can teach the shyt out of calculus and physics. But couldn't work zoom or a smart phone if you gave them a manual.

Out here in DFW teachers starting off make 53 to 57k working 189 days a year. It ain't engineering money. But it's more than most jokers would make with a English degree, biology degree, art degree, general studies degree and many of the other degrees folks get in college that they can't do anything else with (with out a secondary degree) yet got tons of debt.

I know a brotha right freaking now with one of them degrees above. Dude is 28 working at freaking Hertz. Making 18 an hour. Dude be hitting me up for jobs at my company taking about he need a higher paying gig. Told him all we hire are engineers and all the kats in my circle engineers too. So I really don't have contacts that can help him

Brought up the teacher program and dude looked at me like I was crazy. I was like dude you do the program for 1 year and you making 55k. I was like plus you a black male the schools will roll out the welcome mat because they need black teachers. Dude threw his hands up and was like naw I am gonna try to get some high paying job.

That was 2 years ago and he still at Hertz making chump change with around 50k instudent loans.

Jokers be hustling backwards with some of these job opportunities.

I tell my kid this all the time.. Don't wanna listen.

 

[Monsanto]

IMO folks miss the boat with teaching...big time. I say this as a man whose father taught for 45 years in the Chicago schools system and who just retired in spring 2020.

I come from a family of teachers on my dads side. Pretty much everyone on my dad's side of the family who has a college degree is either a school teacher, a principle, a sports coach or doctor. That side of the family came out of Mississippi and anyone who knows that area understands the older generations of black folks took up teacher as a way to matriculate to middle class. Cause due to racism that was one of the few educated jobs you could get there cause you were gonna teach your own and because of the state having HBCUs.

The last year my dad worked he had made well into the early 100k salary and had been making 100k for at least 20 years without working the summer. Hell truth be told my dad was working summers at the chicago board of education playground district as a teacher organizing summer camps and making 100k then with his teacher job and summer teacher job.

So when folks mention salary they fail to realize that's the salary over working 10 months or 189 days. Since you get paid for spring break, paid fall break, paid 2 weeks for Christmas break. Plus paid for the local holidays and weather days. So you might work for 10 months but you getting at least 4 weeks in holidays and don't forget you get 2 to 3 weeks of vacation time.

And if you get a job out west or up north or north east with a strong union. You getting a mandatory 3 to 5 percent raise, a good retirement plan and other great benefits.

My dad retired and getting 85k a year in pension now. One more thing being a teacher has some of the best job security there is around. My dad put it to me like this when I was young. Yeah some of my college friends make more. They have bigger salaries and big bonuses. But they also been laid off 2 or 3 times. Took them 6 months to a year to find another job or have to stress about layoffs every few years. Where as my dad never had to worry about layoffs or it being difficult to find a new job or having to relocate to find a new job or getting laid off due to ageism.

The problem is starting around the gen x and millenials generations being a teacher became negative in view. It wasn't looked at as an exciting job or a job to brag about. But forgetting that it was an honest profession with good benefits and job security. The pay wasn't big but nor is the pay big in some of these garbage degrees kats going to school to get in 50k and more of debt with no job in sight.

Was your father in NABSE or any other organizations with black teachers back then? I wonder if he has year to year progressions of his school's proficiency rate in educating the students in core subjects.

 

[old pig]

I'd love to become a teacher, I just know I'd be butting heads with the administration.

ya I usually waited til I was tenured to speak my mind and do shyt completely my way…I worked in 3 districts (2 states)…the one time I spoke “too freely” got my contract terminated…muthafukkas went so far as to set up an interview and make a fake offer which the principal later denied took place lmao smh…non-union state and I didn’t want to bother fighting it…they ultimately did me a major favor…ended up in a better district with higher pay and surprisingly very reasonable administrators I could deal with

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

where are these teachers working that make 80k+ a year? i was working at a school in SF and i can tell you their starting pay for teachers is 45k in san francisco! the most expensive city in america paying teachers 45k. even the veteran teachers who were there for 10+ years were around 80k. there's some fake news in here.

 

[old pig]

where are these teachers working that make 80k+ a year? i was working at a school in SF and i can tell you their starting pay for teachers is 45k in san francisco! the most expensive city in america paying teachers 45k. even the veteran teachers who were there for 10+ years were around 80k. there's some fake news in here.

lol right where you’re at according to the salary schedule for SF teachers (google it)…seems starting pay is around $50k and after 13 years they’re making above $80k (at 10 years they should be making $70k+)…no fake news at all…granted the cost of living in SF is ridiculous but that wasn’t your contention…the super max is just shy of $100k but those are teachers who are damn near ready to retire status

 

[Rawtid]

Just fund public schools properly and untie funding from property values to fund them all equally. Privatization of school is an AWFUL idea and it always will be

Even with proper funding, individual students face socioeconomic conditions that need to be addressed before education can commence.

Having those kids in a similar environment with others of a similar background, will help focus on addressing some of those issues will be beneficial, IMO.

One of the big issues with public school, to me, is the “standardization” factor. But if one kid only eats lunch at school or has drug addicted parents, they probably need breakfast, a bath and a nap before they are in a mode to learn. I also don’t see an issue with private school education.

 

[Rawtid]

There was a time like that, but had white women not begged, then it wouldn’t be this way. And it’s still by design, the welfare, the broken homes, ect…. Society is suffering from all angles. We’re literally being set up to be renters.

For black people, I don’t feel much would have changed if white feminism didn’t happen. The breakdown in our communities was/is caused by racism.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Even with proper funding, individual students face socioeconomic conditions that need to be addressed before education can commence.

Having those kids in a similar environment with others of a similar background, will help focus on addressing some of those issues will be beneficial, IMO.

One of the big issues with public school, to me, is the “standardization” factor. But if one kid only eats lunch at school or has drug addicted parents, they probably need breakfast, a bath and a nap before they are in a mode to learn. I also don’t see an issue with private school education.

You don't see any issue with an unregulated education system???? Think about what's going on with states trying to literally change history in the history books, think about the people who own these fukking schools. You want an insane fascist indoctrinated age of kids that's damn good way to end up there.

 

[Hoshi_Toshi]

When I was in school all the football coaches taught social studies and ethics classes because we were short on teachers

 

[Rawtid]

You don't see any issue with an unregulated education system???? Think about what's going on with states trying to literally change history in the history books, think about the people who own these fukking schools. You want an insane fascist indoctrinated age of kids that's damn good way to end up there.

Well we have black private schools here and again, as I previously mentioned the overall curriculum needs to be revamped.

Yeah so overall, no I don’t agree with unregulated school systems that could be changing history lessons, but using underutilized schools, even private, to help support the challenges of public school, I feel is ok.

 

[Wink Beaufield]

I dont blame any teacher for quitting in this environment, one of my buddies ghosted DCPS to teach over in Japan and I dont think he coming back.

 

[Starburst]

I was thinking of doing some substitute teaching, but the criteria to get in was demotivating. Hopefully now there is a shortage of teachers the criteria will be a bit relaxed.

Does anyone have an experience substitute teaching?

 

[Rocket Scientist]

teaching in a low income district is one of the hardest jobs idc what anyone say. i worked at a charter school that took in low income students and it was a shyt show everyday. i feel bad for what these teachers have to go through and for the amount of schooling they do and the debt they get into the pay doesn't seem worth it. seems like most teachers i met get a couple of years of experience then try to get into a private school where they pay significantly more, have more resources and well behaved students.

teachers have to pay for classroom supplies with their own money which is just crazy.

I did it. The problem isnt the kids its the Principals and other stadd. I use to teach and at times had to shadow a student who always fell asleep came in higher then a kite. I told adminstration etc. They were like "Well let him sleep he is medicated" etc. I had to go in IEP meetings where they lied they ass off to parents. I rolled my sleeves up in black and white schools. I have at least read about few students in papers already