Teens are fleeing religion like never before: Massive new study exposes religion’s decline

[Poitier]

Of course, Putin stan. It does relate to some forms of intelligence though, and the fact that each generation is scoring higher and higher should tell you something.

Yes 1 form of intelligence which does not signify "humans getting smarter."

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Even if that were true, worshiping an elephant > worshiping a cac. Elephants are more civilized.

Yeshua Ben Yosef was a Falasha, and Falashas are the true GENETIC JEWS...Ethiopians are not white. AT ALL. In fact, most look like ME.

 

[Poitier]

We've still got Capitalism

Almost everything goes back to this.

 

[tmonster]

@tmonster go into the rabbit hole and explain to me what a self replicating synthetic cell is supposed to prove.

it can prove many things

 

[tmonster]

I'm not the one denying or using my own bias to discount evidence.

that is not what I asked

 

[Captain]

Nope or other social issues would not persist.

People accepting watered down frameworks based on post modernism and nihilism instead of agency and altruism.

Altruism because of faith? Exactly when was this true?

Maybe the facade of it but in fact no, look at the evidence; the scientific method has done more in 100 years then the combined thousands of chanting & playing make believe.

 

[Poitier]

Altruism because of faith?

Thats not what I said.

Maybe the facade of it but in fact no, look at the evidence; the scientific method has done more in 100 years then the combined thousands of chanting & playing make believe.

Nope. Religion and mobilized organized people to do things, good or bad, that science has not. They don't even occupy the same space so its a dumb comparison.

 

[Wild self]

They should push Sunday services later in the morning and make sure that services are short as 1 hour, not 6 hours.

If they stubborn, they will continue to lose people attending church services.

 

[Wild self]

Europe is so secular now, they're turning churches into bars, nightclubs... or even brothels (Amsterdam)

That what happens when everyone gets pushed beyond a high school education. They make the club life the new church service.

 

[acri1]

That what happens when everyone gets pushed beyond a high school education. They make the club life the new church service.

Is there really that big a difference between church and the club? You basically go to both of them to socialize, listen to music, meet people, and maybe even meet members of the opposite sex. Church is just more oriented towards old people that don't want to stay out that late.


Church = The club for over-50s

 

[Wild self]

Is there really that big a difference between church and the club? You basically go to both of them to socialize, listen to music, meet people, and maybe even meet members of the opposite sex. Church is just more oriented towards old people that don't want to stay out that late.

Club life is more direct on the activities. It straight up replaced the church on the social front of the young generation and people do so more often.

 

[Drip Bayless]

Its rare that you hear an athiest say he knows for sure we just say there is no evidence that's the whole point I am not even sure dawkins has ever said this.

How many way can I respond to this unintentional and too common straw man/false equivalence
let's count
1. atheism is a response to monotheism and polytheism, tell me about the god and I will tell you why I don't believe it.

2. as a card carrying atheist, there are "gods" I can believe in, basically he would have to be consistent with my knowledge and experience of the world, otherwise, I would be nothing but a functional schizophrenic or a low self-esteem pathological liar of existential proportions.

3. I think it is much more absurd to feel absolutely sure that 99.99999999 of Gods don't exist, while at the same time using the very same evidential grounds to sustain that your one God exists; than to disavow this magnificent internal inconsistency of logic and scrap the idea of all gods period - even theoretical ones that I can't imagine - and just wait for substantial evidence of one. I will go to my grave with that bet any day of the week and twice on Sunday; and I will do so comfortable and with happiness in my heart knowing that I had lived a fundamentally truthful, if not logical, and non-hypocritical life. Ask the reverend first to explain himself, as my logical burden is but a mere piffle compared to his.

4. The one equivalence I share with mono/polytheists is that I don't believe in 100% of the Gods they don't believe in, ask them why they are so sure those gods don't exists.




Certainty is an existential and epistemological conundrum in that the "why" of the Universe is not answerable, but there are things we know as certain as certain can be.

I've met several atheists in real life, and several on this board who claim they know god is not real. I agree that the burden of proof rests more squarely on the shoulders of a theist than an atheist. The point you bring up about certainty is most relevant. I just dislike when people claim to know these things for a fact. I became an atheist or more specifically an agnostic atheist because there was little to know evidence to support theism in my opinion. Atheism just has far more evidence in its favor

 

[88m3]

Is there really that big a difference between church and the club? You basically go to both of them to socialize, listen to music, meet people, and maybe even meet members of the opposite sex. Church is just more oriented towards old people that don't want to stay out that late.


Church = The club for over-50s

I have a hard time telling who is doing a walk of shame home or going to church in Brooklyn.

 

[Drip Bayless]

Millions (u may say hundreds) of years of social development and common sense led to religion influencing society.

If we rolled the dice on civilization we'd still end up with forms of this same shyt, lol. ....

If you don't like it then you don't like society or humans. If you think, "well shyt is soooo fukked up y doesn't God hit the reset button on our asses? " well, if God does exist then we know he's reset shyt a few times. We are social creators. We also are wondered about our existence ass creators. We are also the types that don't like unknown or uncomfortable things..
Combine those 3 things and you'd get religion each time x whether a sky daddy exist or not. All this shyt u guys are getting excited about doesn't exist as long as humans exist.
we don't operate well out side that box , so the best of us will mostly aLL be religious or spiritual.




And fyi, all the laws you agree with r due to religion. All the laws you don't like are due to greed and manipulation.

You're right about one thing. Organized religion is not inherently damaging, foolish as it may be. It is a tool that has been misappropriated to manipulate for personal agenda, all the way back since its invention

 

[tmonster]

I've met several atheists in real life, and several on this board who claim they know god is not real.

trust me and don't get too hung up on their generalization, they mean the god that people are talking about because
1. the god concept is so tainted by pop culture that one can almost use the term generally and not refer to a god of the gaps or a deism deity (it's the same way ISIS can no longer be a fictitious spy agency on an animation tv show on FX)
2. logically they mean a common god not some esoteric concept, otherwise people would just be talking past each other
3. and lastly atheism is the sound that conscientious people make when try to force nonsense down their throat, otherwise there is little to talk about, in fact there is essentially NOTHING to talk about