Teens are fleeing religion like never before: Massive new study exposes religion’s decline

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And then, you looked in the mirror.
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This is that cac humor I'm talking about devoid of any cleverness :mjlol:
 

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Just explained this to you. But we'll go again, all animate and conscious beings are at their very essence composed of inanimate objects. We contain the same elements as stardust..
So because we contain carbon, oxygen, etc........ That means that inanimate objects can create consciousness:dahell:.
We aren't the same makeup as stardust despite sharing similar elements..... NTM, why would our levels of intelligence even need to exist in a unconscious, probably purposeless universe?? it's not like we're more than a spec in the multiverse .

You leaps in logic are just fantastic. :wow: Of course I'm also committing a fallacy here called Argumentum ad logicam --- because just because what you're stating is fukking ridiculous and is a huge LEAP in logic -- don't mean it's untrue. For example, we have never actually observed inanimate matter turn into or Create life or consciousness - but I GUESS that doesn't mean it's impossible. :manny:


You're not proving me wrong and you're not backing your points well enough to prove yourself right. :scusthov:


You should hit me with some shyt that I will have a More difficult time arguing against for example,
You could present Consciousness as a State of Matter. liquid, gas, and solid are also states of matter.:ohhh: So in turn - the Matter Just is what it is and NEVER turned into anything or developed anything Resulting nothing for You to prove and ALSO discounting even the slight possibility of a creator. Properties of consciousness might arise from the physical laws of our universe allowing us to develop a system of consciousness... essentially intelligence and consciousness don't really exist But are simple ways for our computer system to process information and have automatic self correcting processors that will allow us to alter our 3D universe individually and collectively. So that way nikkas won't have to prove some unprovable shyt like - God doesn't exist.......or inanimate matter can create intelligence.......... you can just say, Well, what is intelligence and consciousness???. :birdman:


:whoa: Don't attack me, I was just saying my opinon on what I would do if I were you. . I've used similar arguments against agnostics and theist and only those types of convos shut em down -- anything else causes them to Go all day....... There are a million fallacies a religious person can use to sound intelligent and correct. Not all of them sound foolish, many sound legit:ohlawd:

This is consciousness birthed from inanimate objects

You most certainly can't prove or even provide evidence for such a claim - so why say it?:childplease:
 

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Religion has been used to justify rape, torture, genocide, pedophilia, and many other ills. It's not hard to see why religion is in decline.
 

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Imagine a galaxy. Far away. And in that galaxy, was a solar system orbiting a star. and in that solar system, was a planet with life, with a species of sentient lifeform, smarter than all the others on that planet. And that those sentient lifeforms decreed that the universe was created for them, and that they had all the answers they needed, conveniently written in the form of a divine text, of which there happened to be multiple versions, in the infancy of their civilization.

Now, if we humans had been exploring space, and we had met these sentient lifeforms that worshipped a deity, how seriously would we take them?
We would think of them as foolishly misguided creatures that don't know shyt about the universe and how it works.
And yet, an eye-wateringly large percentage of mankind is under this illogical spell.

@Blackking if we encounter extraterrestrials, or discover extraterrestrial life in the liquid oceans of Europa, are you going to argue about how your creator made them too? Are you going to laud them as god's creation?

But then again I stopped taking you seriously after you admitted that you don't vaccinate your five children.
 

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the god of the gap always runs ahead of the crowd to lead
Funny how he has so much time to make other worlds and shyt
doesn't even care about us mere mortals, 'made in his image' doesn't matter
letting children get bone cancer and third world people suffer disasters
god really is great
like, 18th century dutch slave ship owner great
he 'provides'
 

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So because we contain carbon, oxygen, etc........ That means that inanimate objects can create consciousness:dahell:.
Yes, a special composition of atoms which are not themselves conscious, forming sentient beings sounds to me like inanimate objects creating consciousness. I assume not in the way you expected me to answer, but the answer is yes all the same. Rest of the post is irrelevant. Nothing I said contradicts any laws of physics, yet the god you propose does exactly that. Even a table being conscious, and not being able to communicate it's consciousness does not contradict the laws of physics. An omnipotent god does. I'm not even quite sure where you find my leaps in logic. The brain/ nervous system is where consciousness comes from, the brain/ nervous system is matter, so therefore in the right circumstances, matter must be able to form consciousness. Can you explain in greater detail what you find wrong with the idea I proposed. I could be very wrong for all I know, but your post seems to say a lot about nothing.
 
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Yes, a special composition of atoms which are not themselves conscious, forming sentient beings sounds to me like inanimate objects creating consciousness. I assume not in the way you expected me to answer, but the answer is yes all the same. Rest of the post is irrelevant. Nothing I said contradicts any laws of physics, yet the god you propose does exactly that. Even a table being conscious, and not being able to communicate it's consciousness does not contradict the laws of physics. An omnipotent god does. I'm not even quite sure where you find my leaps in logic. The brain/ nervous system is where consciousness comes from, the brain/ nervous system is matter, so therefore in the right circumstances, matter must be able to form consciousness. Can you explain in greater detail what you find wrong with the idea I proposed. I could be very wrong for all I know, but your post seems to say a lot about nothing.
Any idea that's not direct evidence or proof requires faith and or a leap in logic, is what's wrong w ur idea.

You can say that all day, but it still doesn't show that inanimate matter can create consciousness or life. .... it ONLY shows that most of the universe shares elements. Period.


I showed you the way to argue your point.
 

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Imagine a galaxy. Far away. And in that galaxy, was a solar system orbiting a star. and in that solar system, was a planet with life, with a species of sentient lifeform, smarter than all the others on that planet. And that those sentient lifeforms decreed that the universe was created for them, and that they had all the answers they needed, conveniently written in the form of a divine text, of which there happened to be multiple versions, in the infancy of their civilization.

Now, if we humans had been exploring space, and we had met these sentient lifeforms that worshipped a deity, how seriously would we take them?
We would think of them as foolishly misguided creatures that don't know shyt about the universe and how it works.
And yet, an eye-wateringly large percentage of mankind is under this illogical spell.

@Blackking if we encounter extraterrestrials, or discover extraterrestrial life in the liquid oceans of Europa, are you going to argue about how your creator made them too? Are you going to laud them as god's creation?

But then again I stopped taking you seriously after you admitted that you don't vaccinate your five children.
What does vaccinations have to do with the universe? My children are healthier than all children in their classes.... never sick and not dying as quickly as people who refuse to build natural immunity. I'm not against being resistant to viruses or diseases but why does vaccination have to be the only way?? Why when there have been side affects to certain shots? You believe it's ok to give a kid over 40 shots before the age of five? You don't find it sick to do something like that?
 

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Imagine a galaxy. Far away. And in that galaxy, was a solar system orbiting a star. and in that solar system, was a planet with life, with a species of sentient lifeform, smarter than all the others on that planet. And that those sentient lifeforms decreed that the universe was created for them, and that they had all the answers they needed, conveniently written in the form of a divine text, of which there happened to be multiple versions, in the infancy of their civilization.

Now, if we humans had been exploring space, and we had met these sentient lifeforms that worshipped a deity, how seriously would we take them?
We would think of them as foolishly misguided creatures that don't know shyt about the universe and how it works.
And yet, an eye-wateringly large percentage of mankind is under this illogical spell.
you're one of the least intelligent posters on this board..... but just like most militant atheist posters you believe you're intelligent and actually believe you have some superior knowledge of science:heh:



You actually believe that discovering other life forms disproves a creator:dead:?

:whoa:It doesn't demonstrate anything. I already know that other life exist for the same reason I believe the universe wasn't created randomly and unconsciously. Physics laws and the laws of probability. Had the Bible Torah and Holy Quran never existed , intelligent design would still be apparent to most intelligent people. Not that I'm trying to convince a damaged soul such as yourself:whoa:
 
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