Terry Crews Defends Fatherhood On The View.

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nope you're wrong. There is no evidence that human mothers are "natural" mothers breh. They are taught how to raise children.

There's a difference between being given a random child and having a child of your own. One difference is when a woman has birth, her body releases oxytocin which is a bonding hormone. Not only that, but breastfeeding causes attachment and bonding to both the mother and child. There's actually a lot of scientific evidence on why a mother would be naturally nurturing. Of course, there are issues such as post partem depression but that is usually caused by outside factors.
 

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What I hate most about these conversations is how people try to judge another person's life based on their life experiences. As if the amount of parents at home determines how successful in life you will be. I know so fukk boys with great fathers & mothers. I know lost nikkas being raised by their fathers, thugs with single mothers....


fukk what you believe, some folks are just raised wrong. We take on the traits of those who raised us only we amplify it.
I hate that people use the excuse that they didn't have two parents around as a reason to be a fukk up. nikkas with two parents shoot up malls/schools/movie theaters everyday, b. I do agree that two GOOD parents (of off opposite sex) is the most ideal situation to raise children in but that shouldn't/doesn't mean children raised outside of that will be messed up.
 

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YOU CAN BE RAISED RIGHT AND STILL MISS OUT ON SOME IMPORTANT ASPECTS. I FEEL LIKE MY MOM DID A REAL GOOD JOB WITH US. BUT IM NOT CRAZY ENOUGH TO SAY THAT MY DAD BEING ABSENT DIDN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
How did it impact you negatively, if you don't mind sharing?
 

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http://www.informationng.com/2014/01/why-men-are-more-distant-than-women-in-relationships.html

You seem to forget that humans are technically animals(mammals to be precise) and most female animals are nurturers. Why else would women have breast milk? Also I'm talking way before society.

As for the bolded other animals do that too...

humans are not animals...we have a consciousness. Male and female do have biological differences, and women do birth children, but the "natural order" as you described is not valid for the human species, and its ignorant to hundreds of thousands of years of societal organization and progress. Women werent out hunting and fighting with men for thousands of years because of "feminism". Thats some world according to bill o reilly sht.
 

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who gives a fukk what Whoopi had to say? She was on that "woe is me" shyt too.

She should be smart enough (clearly not) to realize the fault in her approach.

She had a shytty dad...Sorry to hear that, hope you don't think ALL men are like that dummy.

You're a grown woman, THINK like one.

Not everyone will have a good dad...how the fukk would that shyt even make sense to her?

I have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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I cut if off when them hoes cut him off.Of course they would stop him because they are all single mothers.I am a father 24/7 365.A lot of people don't understand that. White people and internet trolls would lead you to believe nikkas don't raise kids.
 

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How did it impact you negatively, if you don't mind sharing?
MY MOM TRIED TO BE A FATHER. SHE TRIED TO SHOW ME HOW TO BE A MAN. PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS SHE WAS TRAINING ME TO BE WHAT SHE THOUGHT A MAN SHOULD BE. SHE HAD NO CLUE WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I COULD TALKING ABOUT IT TO HER.

I WAS LATE ON EVERYTHING. MY GRANDFATHER SHOWED ME ONCE HE FIGURED OUT WHAT WAS WRONG. HE TAUGHT THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE SHAVING. BUT THE MAN THING HE TAUGHT ME WAS HOW TO LEAD A HOUSE.

WHEN PEOPLE MENTION HOW I REMIND THEM OF MY GRANDFATHER I PLAY IT DOWN BUT IT REALLY MAKES ME PROUD. IT IS SOMETHING TO BE COMPARED TO THE PERSON YOU LOOKED UP TO. I JUST WISH I HAD THAT WITH MY FATHER.
 

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MY MOM TRIED TO BE A FATHER. SHE TRIED TO SHOW ME HOW TO BE A MAN. PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS SHE WAS TRAINING ME TO BE WHAT SHE THOUGHT A MAN SHOULD BE. SHE HAD NO CLUE WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I COULD TALKING ABOUT IT TO HER.

I WAS LATE ON EVERYTHING. MY GRANDFATHER SHOWED ME ONCE HE FIGURED OUT WHAT WAS WRONG. HE TAUGHT THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE SHAVING. BUT THE MAN THING HE TAUGHT ME WAS HOW TO LEAD A HOUSE.

WHEN PEOPLE MENTION HOW I REMIND THEM OF MY GRANDFATHER I PLAY IT DOWN BUT IT REALLY MAKES ME PROUD. IT IS SOMETHING TO BE COMPARED TO THE PERSON YOU LOOKED UP TO. I JUST WISH I HAD THAT WITH MY FATHER.

I think understand what you're saying. Is your father still alive? Maybe you can have a one time conversation with him and try to get some answers; that helped me. I had a rap with my father when I was in my early 20's and he basically told me he wasn't that father/daughter dance type dude. He would pay tuition or buy new sneakers but he wasn't anything more than that. As a woman, I do realize that my father being sporadic impacted me and still impacts me to this day but after that convo I got off that "I wish it was different" tip. It's not productive and I was glad I was able to talk to him about it.
 

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I think understand what you're saying. Is your father still alive? Maybe you can have a one time conversation with him and try to get some answers; that helped me. I had a rap with my father when I was in my early 20's and he basically told me he wasn't that father/daughter dance type dude. He would pay tuition or buy new sneakers but he wasn't anything more than that. As a woman, I do realize that my father being sporadic impacted me and still impacts me to this day but after that convo I got off that "I wish it was different" tip. It's not productive and I was glad I was able to talk to him about it.

HE DIED IN DECEMBER. THAT'S KINDA WHERE THE ODD FEELINGS COME IN. WHEN HE WAS ALIVE I DIDN'T HAVE TO MANY ISSUES. WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP BUT WE BOTH MADE A CHOICE TO BURY THE PAST. I fukkED UP BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME STUFF I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF MY CHEST BEFORE THAT AND I WOULD HAVE FELT LIKE AN ASS BRINGING IT UP AFTERWARDS.
 

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HE DIED IN DECEMBER. THAT'S KINDA WHERE THE ODD FEELINGS COME IN. WHEN HE WAS ALIVE I DIDN'T HAVE TO MANY ISSUES. WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP BUT WE BOTH MADE A CHOICE TO BURY THE PAST. I fukkED UP BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME STUFF I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF MY CHEST BEFORE THAT AND I WOULD HAVE FELT LIKE AN ASS BRINGING IT UP AFTERWARDS.
Damn. Sorry to hear that. Whatever you have to say, just write it down, go visit his grave alone and just put it out in the atmosphere. Then just leave it at that.

Edit: And I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but I see so many dudes try to be "better" than their dads and they are essentially in competition with a nikka they never even knew. You have to be your own man and maybe it means looking to your grandpa or finding a mentor or reading some books but it's just necessary at some point to realize you're bigger than the circumstance you couldn't even control.
 

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There's a difference between being given a random child and having a child of your own. One difference is when a woman has birth, her body releases oxytocin which is a bonding hormone. Not only that, but breastfeeding causes attachment and bonding to both the mother and child. There's actually a lot of scientific evidence on why a mother would be naturally nurturing. Of course, there are issues such as post partem depression but that is usually caused by outside factors.

Actually oxytocin reaches higher levels when females interact with children who aren't theirs.

Mothers who don't want or expect children have lower bonding rates than those that do, and are more likely to be depressed. This goes back to the idea of social structure.
 

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What I hate most about these conversations is how people try to judge another person's life based on their life experiences. As if the amount of parents at home determines how successful in life you will be. I know so fukk boys with great fathers & mothers. I know lost nikkas being raised by their fathers, thugs with single mothers....


fukk what you beleive, some folks are just raised wrong. We take on the traits of those who raised us only we amplify it.
Except there is plenty of evidence to suggest you'd be more successful, in a country than pays men more then women, with a mother and father at home.

And you just did what you said you didn't like; u took your personal experience with ppl with mixed home situations and past that off as a fact. :mjpls:

But, take it from me; my siblings and I were raised by our dad. We were definitely good financially, but, we would have been better off with at least a step mother, as kids.

It ain't about just a man or woman. It's not intelligent to understand that we need both to even exist, but, it perfectly fine to just remove one from the picture.

Really, the most successful ppl are "raised by a village," in that; their parents are one of the many positive influences on their lives.
 

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Just because it CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done.

Parenting is a noble thing to tackle solo, but just because you think you are doing a good job, in the long run your child could still lack certain things.

And why fatherhood needs defending is beyond me. Only in America I guess :ld:
 

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Actually oxytocin reaches higher levels when females interact with children who aren't theirs.

Mothers who don't want or expect children have lower bonding rates than those that do, and are more likely to be depressed. This goes back to the idea of social structure.

This is true but they still receive oxytocin when interacting with any child. This is probably what causes " baby fever". And this is biological, so it helps my previous point. That women are more naturally nurturing.
 
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