Terry McLaurin resigns with Commanders 96M/3yr

[Apprentice]

Stop embarrassing yourself. You really think he accounts for 60%+ of their receiving yards? .


Have less yards in 2023 than Pickens, an old Thielen, and an old Hopkins and think that player is "elite". .


Edit: I didn't even factor in someone like Pickens that had more receiving yards with terrible QB play.




You're embarrassing yourself here. He's a very good WR. He is far from elite.




I'm not going back and forth. I'll be back at the end of the season when the Commanders miss the playoffs, Daniels takes a step back, Terry has another "good" season..

Post a video of you running a go route

 

[L&HH]

82 catches gets 2nd team all pro now

No but 13 tds does and I know postseason doesn’t count but averaging 75 yds and 1td per game over the course of 3 games and nfc championship appearance with a rookie qb and former basement dwelling team.

Terry is the definition of being rated exactly where he should be and $30 mill per year is pretty on point to what he deserves

 

[Supa]

Y'all talking stats when contracts are based on market value.

DJ Moore, Waddle, and Tee Higgins are all getting around 28 a year so he's just over them. Terry is a better WR than all of them and two of those guys are WR2 while he's WR1.

Reek is getting 30 but that's only because his deal was signed years ago so the market has gone up. What he signed recently didn't add any years just bumped his guaranteed money so it wasn't a true extension.

DK is getting 33 a year and he doesn't have elite stats. Terry's agent used that contract as the basis for Terry's.

Jayden is still on his rookie deal so this contract is perfectly fair. He's paid more than players he's better than but not in the elite tier with Chase, JJ, and Lamb.

 

[Ethnic Cleansing]

No but 13 tds does

So as long as you have 13 TD's (more of a testament to Daniels), you can be 15th in yards and 19th in receptions and be All-Pro




I'll chalk it up to last year being a down year for Receivers not named Chase

 

[lib123]

which is why I didn't understand why they were trying to play hardball. pay these cats now while your QB on a rookie deal! Stop trying to be difficult

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/should-the-commanders-pay-terry-mclaurin-top-10-wr-money-as-he-approaches-the-receiver-wall-at-age-30/

I'm happy we paid him, but I didn't realize receivers have been falling off like this after 30.

 

[Supa]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/should-the-commanders-pay-terry-mclaurin-top-10-wr-money-as-he-approaches-the-receiver-wall-at-age-30/

I'm happy we paid him, but I didn't realize receivers have been falling off like this after 30.

You have to look at these case by case.

They have Reek on there as an example of production dropping yet failed to mention he was under 1,000 yards because Tua missed games.

Guys like Kupp and Julio were injury prone before hitting 30 so their health caught up to them.

Antonio Brown was a head case more than his game deteriorating.

Terry has no injury history, Washington has a QB on a rookie deal, they have no skill position players making big money, they had plenty of cap space going into this season, and they're top 4 in cap space next season. They can reward Terry for all his efforts despite being in a terrible situation while still having cap space. It would send a bag message to the team if he didn't get paid when you finally got a QB and his production went up.

There's also the problem of if not him then who. What team is going to trade their young star WR for your 30 year old star WR? They couldn't move him without setting their offense back. They want to contend and that's not happening without him.

There's no downside to this contract. It ends by the time they need to extend Jayden. Next season they can use a 1st round pick on a WR to eventually replace him.

 

[lib123]

You have to look at these case by case.

They have Reek on there as an example of production dropping yet failed to mention he was under 1,000 yards because Tua missed games.

Guys like Kupp and Julio were injury prone before hitting 30 so their health caught up to them.

Antonio Brown was a head case more than his game deteriorating.

Terry has no injury history, Washington has a QB on a rookie deal, they have no skill position players making big money, they had plenty of cap space going into this season, and they're top 4 in cap space next season. They can reward Terry for all his efforts despite being in a terrible situation while still having cap space. It would send a bag message to the team if he didn't get paid when you finally got a QB and his production went up.

There's also the problem of if not him then who. What team is going to trade their young star WR for your 30 year old star WR? They couldn't move him without setting their offense back. They want to contend and that's not happening without him.

There's no downside to this contract. It ends by the time they need to extend Jayden. Next season they can use a 1st round pick on a WR to eventually replace him.

I agree we should’ve given him the contract. But I disagree that there’s no downside. There’s still a good chance his production will drop off given his age and heavy reliance on speed. It’s not just those players listed in the article, if you go further back and look at similar archetypes like DeSean Jackson and Santana Moss they dropped off and got injured more frequently after turning 30.

 

[SpikeLee Cumbersmith]

He deserves that payout. He's being rewarded on the field side with a good qb.

 

[Supa]

I agree we should’ve given him the contract. But I disagree that there’s no downside. There’s still a good chance his production will drop off given his age and heavy reliance on speed. It’s not just those players listed in the article, if you go further back and look at similar archetypes like DeSean Jackson and Santana Moss they dropped off and got injured more frequently after turning 30.

It's only a 3 year deal and we don't know what the guaranteed money is.

Barring injury I think he's still a 1,000 yard WR for the first two so that leaves 1 year where he might see a significant drop off. They might be able to get out of this contract after 2 seasons. There's no downside with that.

They have 74 million in cap space after this season. They're good.

Moss and Desean weren't as good as him. Terry is always consistent even with bums. He's not someone I have any questions about. He clearly takes care of himself.

Edit:
It's only 44-50 million guaranteed and there's incentives in the contract for the big money so anyone arguing they overpaid can stop

 

[lib123]

It's only a 3 year deal and we don't know what the guaranteed money is.

Barring injury I think he's still a 1,000 yard WR for the first two so that leaves 1 year where he might see a significant drop off. They might be able to get out of this contract after 2 seasons. There's no downside with that.

They have 74 million in cap space after this season. They're good.

Moss and Desean weren't as good as him. Terry is always consistent even with bums. He's not someone I have any questions about. He clearly takes care of himself.

Edit:
It's only 44 million guaranteed and there's incentives in the contract for the big money so anytime thinking they overpaid can stop

I don’t know about that. Terry is on the same tier as Moss and DeSean. He may have slightly better stats, but the league is more pass heavy than before. My point is there’s still downside with the contract.

 

[Apprentice]

I don’t know about that. Terry is on the same tier as Moss and DeSean. He may have slightly better stats, but the league is more pass heavy than before. My point is there’s still downside with the contract.

The commanders do not pass the ball a lot at all

 

[Supa]

I don’t know about that. Terry is on the same tier as Moss and DeSean. He may have slightly better stats, but the league is more pass heavy than before. My point is there’s still downside with the contract.

There's no downside to signing your #1 WR for 44-50 million guaranteed. That's nothing and the incentives insure that he only gets to the high end of the money if he's still productive for all 3 seasons.

Everything you're worried about is covered in the contract.

Moss and Desean are nowhere close to Terry:

Terry has as many 1000 yard seasons in 6 years as Desean had his entire career and more than Moss who played more than double the seasons.

 

[PUT IN WORK]

Well deserved, proud of Terry. FO folded after seeing how ineffective out receiving corps was during the preseason. Didn't help that Jayden didn't throw one pass and Mariota was out the entire preseason. Outside of Terry, everyone in that WR room is new (Mccaffrey is not good). It would've been pretty dumb not to sign him.

 

[lib123]

There's no downside to signing your #1 WR for 44-50 million guaranteed. That's nothing and the incentives insure that he only gets to the high end of the money if he's still productive for all 3 seasons.

Everything you're worried about is covered in the contract.

Moss and Desean are nowhere close to Terry:

Terry has as many 1000 yard seasons in 6 years as Desean had his entire career and more than Moss who played more than double the seasons.

If you put Terry in those eras, especially Santana Moss’ prime, he’s not having as many yards as he is currently. Even if Terry is better they’re all still on the same tier.

 

[Supa]

If you put Terry in those eras, especially Santana Moss’ prime, he’s not having as many yards as he is currently. Even if Terry is better they’re all still on the same tier.

So now we're going to pretend that it was impossible to go over 1000 yards consistently in the early 2000's

Let's go back 6 years before Chad was in the league and Jimmy Smith did it:

There's a bunch of WR's in that era hitting 1000 consistently like Donald Driver, Reggie Wayne, Rod Smith, etc. It was not impossible even if the league is more pass happy today.

Lastly you don't get paid based on what you might have done in another era. You get paid based on your production in the current market. They throw more and run less so WR's now command more money.