Texas Man Sues 3 Broads Who Helped His Wife Get An Abortion

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If you look on this white boy’s internet, the mortality rate for all women in America during childbirth or 40 days after giving birth is like .0002 percent right now, and that’s probably the highest it’s ever been for all women. In other words, it is highly unlikely, cause if it was likely, the majority of these ladies wouldn’t even risk getting pregnant.

There's no reason that BW's maternal mortality rates should be 2x that of WW. Whatever you're saying doesn't change or alter what I said in anyway.
 

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Women are designed to carry babies to term. The medical complications that people speak of are addressed and controlled for a healthy delivery for the extreme majority of child bearing women.

It can’t be just her body while carrying life. Her body is a generator for the baby.There is a whole distinct body/life inside of hers. Does the baby get a choice to decide whether he/she gets a chance to live?

If that woman does illegal drugs while 6 weeks pregnant, what does she get charged with?

If a pregnant woman is murdered, what is the murderer charged with?

Let’s see if the ethics are 100 percent consistent across the board. I think I already know what your rebuttal is going to be.

It is her body while carrying life.

Let me repeat that. A woman's body is hers, while carrying life. 100%.

The baby does not get a choice until it is viable outside the womb. Until then, the baby has no say. No rights. No nothing.

The charges vary from state to state and are not consistent. But that does not detract from my overall point. Women are autonomous human beings with agency over their bodies. Yes, even when carrying a child to term.
 
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It is her body while carrying life.

Let me repeat that. A woman's body is hers, while carrying life. 100%.

The baby does not get a choice until it is viable outside the womb. Until then, the baby has no say. No rights. No nothing.

The charges vary from state to state and are not consistent. But that does not detract from my overall point. Women are autonomous human beings with agency over their bodies. Yes, even when carrying a child to term.

Most states have laws in place that states they are separate bodies under certain circumstances, and since you believe in body autonomy for women, then you surely have no problem with a women getting an abortion at the 28 week mark(3rd trimester)

This should be a solid universal principle, but it’s not. It’s only applied when it’s politically beneficial. It has shyt to do with ethics.
 

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Most states have laws in place that states they are separate bodies under certain circumstances, and since you believe in body autonomy for women, then you surely have no problem with a women getting an abortion at the 28 week mark(3rd trimester)

This should be a solid universal principle, but it’s not. It’s only applied when it’s politically beneficial. It has shyt to do with ethics.

I don't have a problem, no.

The thing is, virtually all abortions in the 3rd trimester happen for medical related reasons. Otherwise, it's not an abortion, it's inducing an early birth.

Why do you not believe women own and have agency over their bodies?
 
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The thing is, virtually all abortions in the 3rd trimester happen for medical related reasons. Otherwise, it's not an abortion, it's inducing an early birth.

No. I’m asking do you have a problem if a women decides to terminate a normal pregnancy in her third trimester. Sorry if I wasn’t clear, just trying to see if you’re consistent
 

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Men have no abortion rights. That is fair, as they do not carry embryos to term. They don't bear the child. They don't risk health complications and even death.

They do have a say in where their DNA is placed. Once they place it somewhere, what happens in the next 9 months, is (and should be) out of their hands. Because their life and health is not on the line.

And once a baby is on this earth, the responsibility of care falls on the 2 parents (unless legally waived, abdicated, stripped or otherwise).

You're trying to impose an artificial "fairness" standard on a situation that is unfairly imposed by biology. Women bear the child so they decide whether they have it or not. Men have the sperm so they can unilaterally decide to deposit it or not. And once a child is on earth, it is fair to ask both parents to pay up.
This is why abortion needs to be abolished. Lack of responsibility is an illness on society. If two people lay down with no protection and life is created then they both need to pull their britches up and take care of that. Period.

Don’t care if the woman takes the brunt of child rearing when it comes to pregnancy. She knew that when she opened her legs and did it anyways..
 

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Facts.

Once you drop your seed in someone the choice is out of your hands. And if she does decide to have the child, then pay up nikka. Rather you than me.

Don't like it? Get a vasectomy. Or wear a rubber. Or abstain.


Or #BuyYourChildBack:respect:


Thats what its come down to really. If I had the means I would set up a one stop bank/adoption agency. Where we would give men loans to buy their child from the women who don't really want them. But just want to have control of a piece of you. Once your loan is approved we would immediately file the paperwork.


Once you get married the womb is shared. If he had been hiding money somewhere,she wouldve had rights to it in a court of law. So by letter of the law there should be legal ramifications. They will at least be paying for his pain and suffering in a civil suit.
 

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No. I’m asking do you have a problem if a women decides to terminate a normal pregnancy in her third trimester. Sorry if I wasn’t clear, just trying to see if you’re consistent

No I do not.

I have no problem with restrictions around late stage abortion. And in the 3rd trimester you can induce early birth. But if the choice is between a woman terminating a normal pregnancy at any point, or forcing her to bear to term, my pick will always be for the woman's decision to be implemented.

Or #BuyYourChildBack:respect:


Thats what its come down to really. If I had the means I would set up a one stop bank/adoption agency. Where we would give men loans to buy their child from the women who don't really want them. But just want to have control of a piece of you. Once your loan is approved we would immediately file the paperwork.


Once you get married the womb is shared. If he had been hiding money somewhere,she wouldve had rights to it in a court of law. So by letter of the law there should be legal ramifications. They will at least be paying for his pain and suffering in a civil suit.

nikka no it isn't :mjlol:

What kind of Handmaid's Tale babble is this?
 

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Or #BuyYourChildBack:respect:


Thats what its come down to really. If I had the means I would set up a one stop bank/adoption agency. Where we would give men loans to buy their child from the women who don't really want them. But just want to have control of a piece of you. Once your loan is approved we would immediately file the paperwork.


Once you get married the womb is shared. If he had been hiding money somewhere,she wouldve had rights to it in a court of law. So by letter of the law there should be legal ramifications. They will at least be paying for his pain and suffering in a civil suit.

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@Inspect Her Deck Your nut, your responsibility. Why should my tax dollars go to feed your kid because you have no pull out game? So you can go creating little degenerates just like you without consequences? Pass.

And the female body miscarriages more than it carries to term. Is that "killing?" Is a miscarriage immoral? Concisious vs subconscious. The body making a decision in the body's best interest vs the mind making a decision in the body's best interest. I see no difference. While in her body, the fetus is part of her body and she has agency over it.

Either way, once the child is here, the parents are responsible; not society. Because unlike ya'll society doesn’t want uncared for children who eventually become a burden of everyone else.

You don't have abortion rights because you don't carry children. If you don't like it keep your irresponsible nut out of women. If you do create a child you don't give a shyt about, how you interact with that child is on you but yes my state will need that reimbursement. Sorry; not sorry.

So it's on the man's pull-out game? Again, you are absolving women of responsibility in sex. Why is she letting him fukk raw? Both parties should be fully aware of the risks of unprotected sex before engaging and both should assume responsibility if it results in pregnancy.

I'm pro life, but let's say for the sake of argument I'm pro choice. Obviously, if both parties want to abort or both want to keep the baby, there's no discussion. However, if the guy is willing to raise the child but the woman wants to abort, he has no say in the child he helped to create. I get that it's the woman's body, but in terms of pregnancy, it's not like she exclusively created the life. She is the carrier of that child. Now he has no say in this and loses the right to raise the child. If the woman wants to keep the baby but the guy doesn't, now he's forced to pay child support and whatever else? Does that seem equitable to you?

Now in extreme minority cases that you decided to highlight for some reason (and that @Field Marshall Bradley provided stats on to show how extreme they are), I would support abortion decisions being totally out of a man's hands if the woman's life is in danger, for example. Women shouldn't have to die at the expense of enduring a pregnancy. Miscarriage is a natural process and there is absolutely a difference between a natural bodily action and an active mental decision to abort in cases where the baby would usually have a healthy and safe delivery.

I think if the pro life stance was more universal, and conception was seen as the starting point of life (which scientifically it is), some women wouldn't be so blase about getting abortions as if they're expelling clumps of cells from their body. If you want the "my body, my choice" argument, fine, but then don't be mad when men step away and say "your choice, your authority, YOUR responsibility".
 

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It just seems like you're picking a convenient starting point for someone to take responsibility for their actions. BOTH parties can avoid the pregnancy, by not having unprotected sex. The man can choose to pull out but that always isn't 100% effective. A woman should not let a man fukk raw if she wants no risk of pregnancy.
 

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Men have no abortion rights. That is fair, as they do not carry embryos to term. They don't bear the child. They don't risk health complications and even death.

They do have a say in where their DNA is placed. Once they place it somewhere, what happens in the next 9 months, is (and should be) out of their hands. Because their life and health is not on the line.

And once a baby is on this earth, the responsibility of care falls on the 2 parents (unless legally waived, abdicated, stripped or otherwise).

You're trying to impose an artificial "fairness" standard on a situation that is unfairly imposed by biology. Women bear the child so they decide whether they have it or not. Men have the sperm so they can unilaterally decide to deposit it or not. And once a child is on earth, it is fair to ask both parents to pay up.

Like I said to Empress, those health complication cases I support a woman's full right to an abortion (or rape, which is not applicable between consenting adults in sex). We are talking about a minority here. Again, I can respect the "my body, my choice" stance despite disagreeing with it. But then if the child is on earth because the woman chose (she has 100% authority), then why is it fair on the man to pay up if he wanted to abort? He contributed to the making of the baby, and now has 0% authority yet has to be responsible?

Would you be responsible for something without the authority to do so? Seems rather foolish.
 
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