Thanks to the anti-Democrat left! Labor Unions dealt a major blow by SCOTUS

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Supreme Court Delivers a Sharp Blow to Labor Unions
June 27, 2018
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Mark Janus spoke to the news media outside the Supreme Court in February. Mr. Janus, who works for the state of Illinois, sued the union that represents state employees, saying he does not agree with its positions and should not be forced to pay fees to support its work.Jacquelyn Martin/Associated Press
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday dealt a major blow to organized labor. By a 5-to-4 vote, with the more conservative justices in the majority, the court ruled that government workers who choose not to join unions may not be required to help pay for collective bargaining.

The ruling means that public-sector unions across the nation, already under political pressure, could lose tens of millions of dollars and see their effectiveness diminished.

The court based its ruling on the First Amendment, saying that requiring payments to unions that negotiate with the government forces workers to endorse political messages that may be at odds with their beliefs.

Unions say that reasoning is flawed. Nonmembers are already entitled to refunds of payments spent on political activities, like advertising to support a political candidate.

Collective bargaining is different, the unions say, and workers should not be free to reap the benefits of such bargaining without paying their fair share of the costs.

The decision could encourage many workers perfectly happy with their unions’ work to make the economically rational decision to opt out of paying for it.

Limiting the power of public unions has long been a goal of conservative groups. They seemed poised to succeed in the Supreme Court in 2016, when a majority of the justices looked ready to rule that the fees were unconstitutional.

But Justice Antonin Scalia died not long after the earlier case was argued, and it ended in a 4-to-4 deadlock. The new case, which had been filed in 2015, was waiting in the wings and soon reached the Supreme Court. Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, President Trump’s Supreme Court appointee, voted with the majority.

The court overruled its 1977 decision in Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, which had made a distinction between two kinds of compelled payments. Forcing nonmembers to pay for a union’s political activities violated the First Amendment, the court said. But it was constitutional, the court added, to require nonmembers to help pay for the union’s collective bargaining efforts to prevent freeloading and ensure “labor peace.”

That distinction is untenable and unworkable, the majority said.

The court struck down an Illinois law that requires government workers who choose not to join a union to “pay their proportionate share of the costs of the collective bargaining process, contract administration and pursuing matters affecting wages, hours and other conditions of employment.” More than 20 states have similar laws.

The case, Janus v. American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, No. 16-1466, was brought Mark Janus, a child support specialist who works for the state government in Illinois. He sued the union, saying he does not agree with its positions and should not be forced to pay fees to support its work.

The decision is unlikely to have a direct impact on unionized employees of private businesses, because the First Amendment restricts government action and not private conduct. But unions now represent only 6.5 percent of private sector employees, down from the upper teens in the early 1980s, and most of the labor movement’s strength these days is in the public sector
 

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Justices rule for Janus in landmark case affecting public sector unions

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court — delivering a victory to GOP Gov. Bruce Rauner and a blow to organized labor in the landmark Illinois case Janus v. AFSCME Council 31 — ruled Wednesday that non-union member government employees’ First Amendment rights shield them from having to pay fees to a union to cover costs to represent them.

The 5-4 decision overturning current law was written by Justice Samuel Alito who said in the ruling which will have a national impact, “States and public-sector unions may no longer extract agency fees from nonconsenting employees.”


on a related note:

Illinois owes over $250 billion in pension debt

hard to side with an entity whose entitlements have a state at negative 250 billion dollars, for whatever the reason. thoughts? im all for union benefits but not if they come at a cost like that :camby:
 

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Illinois owes over $250 billion in pension debt

any thoughts on this? or is this not worth talking about. you could go around and rob the 1% of illinois for every dollar they have and it wouldn't come close to addressing this issue
Municipal debt is such a nuanced and complex issue I’m going to ignore this non sequitur and laugh at you for trying to introduce a red herring.
 

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Municipal debt is such a nuanced and complex issue I’m going to ignore this non sequitur and laugh at you for trying to introduce a red herring.
illinois is on the verge of bankruptcy because of its debt to the unions IN THE ARTICLE, so to call it a red herring is laughable. but whatever lets you post the hillary smilie, i guess :jaymelo:
 

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In anyway this Supreme Court descision is disastrous. We are witnessing the Conservative wet dream which is to end unions and turn America into a corporate feudal system. And also in a time where wages does not match productivity and the income inequality gap is increasing because of the GOP tax bill this shyt is going to destroy what is left of the American middle class. This is really is concerning.
 
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Illinois is so fukkd up. By far the worst governed state in the country IMO.

Pension debt isn't just the fault of unions but they don't make themselves to be sympathetic party with some of their antics.
it doesnt really matter whose fault it is, it matters that it's unsustainable. and when illinois goes to the union and tells them that they have to rework the arrangement because it doesn't work anymore, and they refuse, it will be their fault

working for the government does not mean a god given right for an 80% pension from 55 til you die :yeshrug: i dont know why anyone wants to pretend that that is a sustainable promise. it clearly isnt. where the fukk is that money supposed to come from to pay people for not working?

california is fukked, new york is fukked, new jersey is fukked, connecticut is fukked. coincidentally, all the states that property tax the fukk outta their residents and cried about the fed giving them the squeeze on it
 
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