That beyond black white site

[el_oh_el]

couldn't care less about a Kim K, a Kanye or an Amber Rose.

got other important shyt going on to care for the back and forth between some celebs and then the defense teams doing battle in comment sections. fukk em all.

I agree. BUT the comments in the article are less about the celebs (actualy not at all about them) and more about shytting on the entity that is the black man. THey also fail to acknowledge any type of issues that arise

Here's another comment from that blog:

Now, I know there are a lot of black male c00ns out there. But have you ever heard anything even remotely as vile as this in regards to Black women???

I'm quite civil in public but had a female said that shyt in real life I'd curse that bytch smooooth the fukk out

 

[AntiVenom]

Again man, you haven't thought your shyt through. Your male chauvinist shyt just isn't going to work because we(black men+women) are going to have to work together to make our own "kool-aid". Black men aren't going to be able to get shyt done by ourselves while a good amount of black women are working against us. We need black women on the team and telling them that they're inferior just isn't conducive to that. This is how the white man got in their ear in the 1st place kicking that feminism bullshyt.

Exactly. Hes a chauvinistic idiot. Half of the group cant work to rebuild while the other half is shooting arrows at them. If shyts going to be rebuilt its going to take both black men and black women to do it.

Anyone advocating to coddle black women or treat them like children is fukking sick. And anyone advocating for black men to ignore these attacks against us is clearly working for the enemy and needs to be treated as such.

define holding them accountable? explain it. how would you hold them accountable.

Completele hostility and distrust for starters. And by exposing their hostile actions to other black people, deny them support of any kind, and showing them the utmost hostility. They'd be black balled and shut out when it came to black people. I'd even be completely supportive of those who advocated violence against them.

if that's the case, how do BM have the gull to try to demand women submit when we're equalizing ourselves to them? why dont nikkas submit to women instead?

This is a straw man. None of the men were in here telling black women to submit to black men. I'll be damned if submit to them. Equality means no one has to submit to the other but both have the same responsibilities. Im fine with that dynamic. The load is to be shared.

yeah, i agree, only problem is BM want the women to do OUR roles as men; while they simultaneously continue their duties as women.

Straw man. Most black men are not making this demand. However, many black women advocate "independence" and not to be treated as children.....while wanting the same privileges as women. No thanks. Equality or nothing.

its a team effort. men go out and build and maintain the physical infrastructure, and women maintain the culture. but y'all believe women are overly capable, when all the evidence shows BW are just like every other race of women; they need to be protected an shielded.

Wrong. Black women are fully capable of this and they are our equals. If black men are to have their hands in the dirt to rebuild then the black woman must be right there next to him. Anything short of that is black men getting short end of the stick and being nothing more than a beast of burden. fukk that. Were equals in this.

then nikkas got the nerve to get mad at the bedwenches thats trying to receive womanly treatment from other groups of patriarchal men.

Wrong again. The majority of the outrage comes from these women hurling insults and attacking their own. Its not much more complicated than that.

 

[AntiVenom]

How? Who's going to raise these men? What are you talking about? How in the world can you build a community independent of women?

You cant. Its not a community. A community has to be interdependent. What he's advocating is for black men to be serfs to black women. We have all the responsibilities, labor and do all the hard shyt....while they just sit back and accept the rewards and are able to do whatever they please. Lmao I'd rather see the black race go violently extinct. Every man woman and child dead than see black men put into some kind of indentured servitude to black women. What he's talking about is a nightmare. We'd be second class citizens in the own society that we build. Sound familiar? Because it should

Either black men and black women are to share the same responsibilities and burdens....or let it rot.

You sound like someone who's never been a quality lasting relationship.

Great example. A relationship between two people cant work well with one person being invested while the other is independent. Let alone a similar situation involving entire populations.

Saying that black women should be held accountable for their role in black dysfunction instead of being treated like children who shouldn't be expected to know/do any better isn't believing that they're "overly capable". Black women are certainly capable of being held responsible for what they do.

Any adult is capable. We wouldnt have laws if this wasnt the case. Why cant he see this shyt?

Here's another comment from that blog:

Now, I know there are a lot of black male c00ns out there. But have you ever heard anything even remotely as vile as this in regards to Black women???

never. these sluts are sick

 

[AntiVenom]

Only a fool would believe that she's lesser than him because she was born a woman. But keep thinking because they're born with breasts, they can't do damage...join the long list of men taken down by them throughout history. When they're cops, hiring managers, loan officers, prosecutors, teachers and etc., you'll see how realer it gets in the future.

These women are the trojan horse. And theyre excited about hurting their own.

The men who think its no big deal are too stupid to see the noose that these bedwenches are tieing around their necks. These women are the enemy and we need to prepare for a civil war with them...amongst others. Circle the wagons now or we'll get cut the fukk down in the end.

 

[marcuz]

Exactly. Hes a chauvinistic idiot. Half of the group cant work to rebuild while the other half is shooting arrows at them. If shyts going to be rebuilt its going to take both black men and black women to do it.

now i'm a chauvinistic idiot when you've spent almost 2 yrs cosigning my rhetoric against black women

Anyone advocating to coddle black women or treat them like children is fukking sick. And anyone advocating for black men to ignore these attacks against us is clearly working for the enemy and needs to be treated as such.



Completele hostility and distrust for starters. And by exposing their hostile actions to other black people, deny them support of any kind, and showing them the utmost hostility. They'd be black balled and shut out when it came to black people. I'd even be completely supportive of those who advocated violence against them.

the so called bedwenches are already showing you hostility and distrust. how can you deny them support that you dont even provide? they're already getting their support from cacs, and you have absolutely NOTHING to black ball them from. so once again i ask you, HOW WILL YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE? by using violence?

This is a straw man. None of the men were in here telling black women to submit to black men. I'll be damned if submit to them. Equality means no one has to submit to the other but both have the same responsibilities. Im fine with that dynamic. The load is to be shared.

i'm not fine with women sharing the same load of responsibilities and you'll find that MOST women (including all women of other races) wont support that bullshyt either. did you forgot you were born a man? women are not capable of carrying a mans load. but if you want some masculine butch ass black women that work like men, well hey, we already have a bunch of those.

Straw man. Most black men are not making this demand. However, many black women advocate "independence" and not to be treated as children.....while wanting the same privileges as women. No thanks. Equality or nothing.

you JUST said you want black women to carry the same responsibilities as men! yeah, they advocate independence until they fukk up, then who gets the blame? i choose NOTHING because equality is a flawed concept.

Wrong. Black women are fully capable of this and they are our equals. If black men are to have their hands in the dirt to rebuild then the black woman must be right there next to him. Anything short of that is black men getting short end of the stick and being nothing more than a beast of burden. fukk that. Were equals in this.

if black women are fully capable, why are so many black neighborhoods run down and shytty? black women should not even be in the room when we're discussing community building as its a MANS job. holy shyt, feminism has run a muck on you nikkas

Wrong again. The majority of the outrage comes from these women hurling insults and attacking their own. Its not much more complicated than that.

i'm wrong but y'all main complaint is how the BW is working against the BM. get real

 

[Gravity]

when talking community building, we're talking businesses and keeping wealth within the community. why are women required for men to go off and network with eachother to build the community?

Community building doesn't start with businesses. It starts with the family. We've got to rebuild the black family before we can rebuild the black community. The reason that you don't see black businesses now in the socalled black communities is because the family structure has basically been destroyed. We don't really have a community, just a bunch of individuals trying to make willing to slit each other's throats to do it.

Why would you even want to exclude women from networking, starting businesses and all of that? How does treating women as if they are incapable of doing those things help the community?

i've been in enough to know i'll never equalize my responsibilities and duties w/my partners. of course, relationships are about compromise, but its also about putting yourself in a position to protect & provide for your wife and kids.

You tell on yourself without even realizing it. The days of men being the sole provider while women just stay home being full-time wives/moms are long go. These days it takes both partners to provide for the family and it's been that way for awhile now.

this is the their main complaint, BM NOT being in the position to control the economic landscape to protect & PROVIDE.

This isn't the complaint from women like those who frequent the site in the OP. Those women complain about black men not appreciating black women. Those women have convinced themselves that they're single and lonely because black men only want light skinned/mixed and non white women. The whole bedwench "swirl" movement is based on this kind of "Black men don't want us and are dating out so we should too" rhetoric. You've jumped in here with your own agenda, you aren't even paying attention.

if broken down to women properly, guarantee more are on my side than yours. especially when it comes time for them to get treated like the women they are.

Well your guarantee doesn't mean shyt because it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about. The only black women who'll cosign you are the weak less than capable women who have to depend on a man or somebody else for survival. The smart capable women aren't going to buy the shyt that you're selling and those are the women that we need to rebuild the community. Like I said, whites already used chauvinistic black men like you to turn black women against the community. Black women turned to feminism as a way of rejecting men like you.

show me where i called women inferior? when it comes to accountability and mens duties, they should be treated like children.

Bruh, saying that women are unequal to men, shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions, and are like children is saying that they are inferior. Men like you kill me. You think of women as inferior yet you don't have the courage to come out and just say it. Being scared of people you deem inferior is a contradiction. What are you scared of?

i never said it wasn't a team effort, but our societal duties are NOT 50/50. like i asked the other guy, DEFINE holding them accountable. how would you hold all these women contributing to the dysfunction accountable? eplain

My way of holding blacks accountable(man and woman) is to speak out against behavior that I find unacceptable and to not support those who willfully exhibit the behavior. We should suppodt those who are representing and call out the one's who are being counterproductive. That's all that we can do at this point.

you're the one strawmanning by saying i called women inferior when they i did not.

This is that weak shyt. While you may not have used the word inferior, you definitely described women as being inferior to men in no uncertain terms.

they are NOT equals and they may as well be treated like children, because you cant hold them accountable by nature. women will always revert back to male responsibility when they fukk up.

Stop being a p*ssy. Doesn't look like you want to be held accountable either.

regardless of what feminism has railroaded into your matriarchal nikkas, women cannot replace men. they are not going to go out and do any of the work that men should be doing in the community. if women could have done it by now, they would have.

You create these straw men because you can't argue against what I'm actually saying. I haven't said anything about women replacing men. You pulled that from your own ass. My position is that black men and women have roles to play in the rebuilding of our community and we should all be held accountable. The dumb shyt you're kicking about not holding women accountable for dysfunctional behavior is for the birds. Black men are not going to be able to rebuild the community without the help/support of black women. We're in this together. You sound like a caveman.

its not a strawman, its what you dudes are on. women are still women and they're susceptible to all the negative images they've received since 4 yrs old.

So are males. Have you not seen the "doll test"? Little boys are just susceptible to negative images/propaganda as little girls.

third time, you hold them accountable, now what? men still have to go off and do the building.

If we start holding them(the one's fukking up) accountable then maybe they'll start to change their behavior. It's pretty obvious that not holding them accountable as if they're children who don't know any better isn't going to change their behavior. You cannot build a community without women bruh. I wouldn't even want to live in some homoesque make only community Sounds like prison to me, no thank you.

call them out all you want, how is that going to stop them? cacs are offering them more table scraps than black men, so they're still going to keep at it either way; even at the expense of the black community.

Whether calling out c00ns/bedwenches stops them or not, they need to be called out. I'm not even sure what your position here is. How is not calling them out going to do anything? Calling women out for dysfunctional behavior is a form of protection. It's obvious that you're not a parent. I give my kids game/wisdom as a form of protection.

We have to set a standard bruh. c00ning from men or women should not be condoned. Save those lame ass excuses and give up that outdated ass mentality. No other non white race of men accept or justify acts of betrayal from their women. White men damn sure don't tolerate that shyt. White women who go outside the community are usually cut-off. It's basically like that for every other race too. Anybody with reasonable intelligence understands how important women are to keeping a community strong

 

[Yup]

Community building doesn't start with businesses. It starts with the family. We've got to rebuild the black family before we can rebuild the black community. The reason that you don't see black businesses now in the socalled black communities is because the family structure has basically been destroyed. We don't really have a community, just a bunch of individuals trying to make willing to slit each other's throats to do it.

Why would you even want to exclude women from networking, starting businesses and all of that? How does treating women as if they are incapable of doing those things help the community?


You tell on yourself without even realizing it. The days of men being the sole provider while women just stay home being full-time wives/moms are long go. These days it takes both partners to provide for the family and it's been that way for awhile now.

This isn't the complaint from women like those who frequent the site in the OP. Those women complain about black men not appreciating black women. Those women have convinced themselves that they're single and lonely because black men only want light skinned/mixed and non white women. The whole bedwench "swirl" movement is based on this kind of "Black men don't want us and are dating out so we should too" rhetoric. You've jumped in here with your own agenda, you aren't even paying attention.

Well your guarantee doesn't mean shyt because it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about. The only black women who'll cosign you are the weak less than capable women who have to depend on a man or somebody else for survival. The smart capable women aren't going to buy the shyt that you're selling and those are the women that we need to rebuild the community. Like I said, whites already used chauvinistic black men like you to turn black women against the community. Black women turned to feminism as a way of rejecting men like you.


Bruh, saying that women are unequal to men, shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions, and are like children is saying that they are inferior. Men like you kill me. You think of women as inferior yet you don't have the courage to come out and just say it. Being scared of people you deem inferior is a contradiction. What are you scared of?

My way of holding blacks accountable(man and woman) is to speak out against behavior that I find unacceptable and to not support those who willfully exhibit the behavior. We should suppodt those who are representing and call out the one's who are being counterproductive. That's all that we can do at this point.

This is that weak shyt. While you may not have used the word inferior, you definitely described women as being inferior to men in no uncertain terms.
Stop being a p*ssy. Doesn't look like you want to be held accountable either.

You create these straw men because you can't argue against what I'm actually saying. I haven't said anything about women replacing men. You pulled that from your own ass. My position is that black men and women have roles to play in the rebuilding of our community and we should all be held accountable. The dumb shyt you're kicking about not holding women accountable for dysfunctional behavior is for the birds. Black men are not going to be able to rebuild the community without the help/support of black women. We're in this together. You sound like a caveman.

So are males. Have you not seen the "doll test"? Little boys are just susceptible to negative images/propaganda as little girls.

If we start holding them(the one's fukking up) accountable then maybe they'll start to change their behavior. It's pretty obvious that not holding them accountable as if they're children who don't know any better isn't going to change their behavior. You cannot build a community without women bruh. I wouldn't even want to live in some homoesque make only community Sounds like prison to me, no thank you.

Whether calling out c00ns/bedwenches stops them or not, they need to be called out. I'm not even sure what your position here is. How is not calling them out going to do anything? Calling women out for dysfunctional behavior is a form of protection. It's obvious that you're not a parent. I give my kids game/wisdom as a form of protection.

We have to set a standard bruh. c00ning from men or women should not be condoned. Save those lame ass excuses and give up that outdated ass mentality. No other non white race of men accept or justify acts of betrayal from their women. White men damn sure don't tolerate that shyt. White women who go outside the community are usually cut-off. It's basically like that for every other race too. Anybody with reasonable intelligence understands how important women are to keeping a community strong

Many points I agreed with.

 

[marcuz]

Community building doesn't start with businesses. It starts with the family. We've got to rebuild the black family before we can rebuild the black community. The reason that you don't see black businesses now in the socalled black communities is because the family structure has basically been destroyed. We don't really have a community, just a bunch of individuals trying to make willing to slit each other's throats to do it.

Why would you even want to exclude women from networking, starting businesses and all of that? How does treating women as if they are incapable of doing those things help the community?

i didn't say anything about excluding women from networking or starting their own businesses. men are the builders and maintainer of the physical infrastructure, i've said this several times now.

You tell on yourself without even realizing it. The days of men being the sole provider while women just stay home being full-time wives/moms are long go. These days it takes both partners to provide for the family and it's been that way for awhile now.

who said anything about men being the SOLE provider? it's still YOUR job as a man to be able to provide for your wife and family. this is why the black family unit is so messed up. men equalizing themselves to women until they're no longer necessary. your wife shouldn't even be able to live comfortably if you step out of the picture, let alone the current situation where women ARE the sole providers.

This isn't the complaint from women like those who frequent the site in the OP. Those women complain about black men not appreciating black women. Those women have convinced themselves that they're single and lonely because black
men only want light skinned/mixed and non white women. The whole bedwench "swirl" movement is based on this kind of "Black men don't want us and are dating out so we should too" rhetoric. You've jumped in here with your own agenda, you aren't even paying attention.

what do you mean that's not their complaints, hell the very first post states:

"you think we care that you bm are powerless cretins who are ruled over by white men, shot in the street like animals and have nothing going for you except your penis size? No, we don't because its one less bm that will make us a baby mama. now exit the blog. "

Well your guarantee doesn't mean shyt because it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about. The only black women who'll cosign you are the weak less than capable women who have to depend on a man or somebody else for survival. The smart capable women aren't going to buy the shyt that you're selling and those are the women that we need to rebuild the community. Like I said, whites already used chauvinistic black men like you to turn black women against the community. Black women turned to feminism as a way of rejecting men like you.

yeah, those are the good ones. weak black women that DO need a man. not that strong & independent "i dont need a man" types

Bruh, saying that women are unequal to men, shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions, and are like children is saying that they are inferior. Men like you kill me. You think of women as inferior yet you don't have the courage to come out and just say it. Being scared of people you deem inferior is a contradiction. What are you scared of?

show me where i called women inferior to women? if you allow women to lead and they fail, they'll turn back at the man and ask "why did you let me lead"

there is NO accountability and you wont be able to hold them accountable.

My way of holding blacks accountable(man and woman) is to speak out against behavior that I find unacceptable and to not support those who willfully exhibit the behavior. We should suppodt those who are representing and call out the one's who are being counterproductive. That's all that we can do at this point.

okay so you speak out against the bedwenches on the coli, how is that holding anyone accountable for anything? this is exactly what i mean, neither of you can describe how you'll hold women accountable because YOU CANT.

This is that weak shyt. While you may not have used the word inferior, you definitely described women as being inferior to men in no uncertain terms.
Stop being a p*ssy. Doesn't look like you want to be held accountable either.

you're just strawmanning and dont want to be called out on it.

You create these straw men because you can't argue against what I'm actually saying. I haven't said anything about women replacing men. You pulled that from your own ass. My position is that black men and women have roles to play in the rebuilding of our community and we should all be held accountable. The dumb shyt you're kicking about not holding women accountable for dysfunctional behavior is for the birds. Black men are not going to be able to rebuild the community without the help/support of black women. We're in this together. You sound like a caveman.

what would you have the black womans communal roles be? and just stop saying they should be held accountable because black men dont have the power or infastructure to hold women accountable.

if the black community were a car that the BW just crashed into a tree, are you going to hold her accountable for fixing it? even if she doesn't know how to fix a car and shouldn't have been in the damn drivers seat in the first place? how the HELL are any of you going to hold them accountable outside of wagging your finger at them online?

So are males. Have you not seen the "doll test"? Little boys are just susceptible to negative images/propaganda as little girls.

men do not indulge ourselves in media promotion like women. we dont care about the red carpet, gossip, who so & so is dating, and all the other shyt that women consume themselves with.

If we start holding them(the one's fukking up) accountable-

sounding like a damn broken record. "b-b-but if we held them accountable " FOH

Whether calling out c00ns/bedwenches stops them or not, they need to be called out. I'm not even sure what your position here is. How is not calling them out going to do anything? Calling women out for dysfunctional behavior is a form of protection. It's obvious that you're not a parent. I give my kids game/wisdom as a form of protection.

We have to set a standard bruh. c00ning from men or women should not be condoned. Save those lame ass excuses and give up that outdated ass mentality. No other non white race of men accept or justify acts of betrayal from their women. White men damn sure don't tolerate that shyt. White women who go outside the community are usually cut-off. It's basically like that for every other race too. Anybody with reasonable intelligence understands how important women are to keeping a community strong

other races actually have a structure and community that's being betrayed. they can enact SANCTIONS on those they perceive as race traitors. black men are not in the position to hold anyone accountable for ANYTHING. what dont you nikkas understand about this shyt? if all we can do is wag our finger, then we've got some pretty ineffective power.

 

[Gravity]

i didn't say anything about excluding women from networking or starting their own businesses. men are the builders and maintainer of the physical infrastructure, i've said this several times now.

Boy you're a lying ass motherfukker. You've clearly taken the position that black women aren't needed to rebuild the community.

when talking community building, we're talking businesses and keeping wealth within the community. why are women required for men to go off and network with eachother to build the community?

called women inferior to women? if you allow women to lead and they fail, they'll turn back at the man and ask "why did you let me lead"
who said anything about men being the SOLE provider?

See I try to keep it respectful but there's no way I can respect someone who's deliberately dishonest. Who said something about being the sole provider?

my lady aint complaining, as she's not on that strong and independent crap. hell, every woman i've had long term relationships w/appreciated the fact that i'm not on that "50/50, we go dutch, i aint simping" shyt. [/B]i pay the bills, i provide, and i make sure she doesn't have to struggle for anything.[/B]

Stop talking out of both sides of your ass bruh. Not only did imply that You're the sole provider in your fam, you've talked on and on about how it's a man's duty to protect/provide and that women shouldn't be expected to perform a man's duties.

it's still YOUR job as a man to be able to provide for your wife and family.

bu bu bu I ain't saying that you should be the sole provider tho

this is why the black family unit is so messed up. men equalizing themselves to women until they're no longer necessary.

Notice how you keep trying to shame me for "equalizing myself to women", yet when I call you out for belittling women as inferior you deny it like a coward. It's ironic because I know plenty of women with bigger balls than you.

The black family structure hasn't been destroyed because black men have equalized themselves to women. The black family has been destroyed because there's a system in place to destroy the black family. Just like during slavery, black men are basically ripped away from the black family via the prison system. The one's who aren't in prison are disenfranchised for the most part making it extremely difficult for black men to head black households supporting black families. You have your own personal agenda here.

what do you mean that's not their complaints, hell the very first post states:

"you think we care that you bm are powerless cretins who are ruled over by white men, shot in the street like animals and have nothing going for you except your penis size? No, we don't because its one less bm that will make us a baby mama. now exit the blog. "

That's not a complaint, that's a taunt. Get a dictionary and learn the difference between the two words. Again, the complaint that the site(and the swirl movement as a whole) is built on is that black men don't appreciate black women and only want light-brights or non black women. The chic who started and "owns" the site constantly goes on and on about how shytty she's been treated by black men all her life. How black men always made her feel ugly for being dark skinned blah blah blah.

yeah, those are the good ones. weak black women that DO need a man. not that strong & independent "i dont need a man" types

Straw man.

show me where i called women inferior to women?

I exposed you in that lie earlier. Stop being a p*ssy scared to say how you truly feel.

if you allow women to lead and they fail, they'll turn back at the man and ask "why did you let me lead"

Leaders lead because people follow, they don't wait for anyone's permission. You think that anyone gave Harriet Tubman "permission"?

there is NO accountability and you wont be able to hold them accountable.

I most certainly can hold people I think are behaving in ways that I don't agree with accountable.

okay so you speak out against the bedwenches on the coli, how is that holding anyone accountable for anything? this is exactly what i mean, neither of you can describe how you'll hold women accountable because YOU CANT.

Accountability and punishment are two different things dumb fukk. I've described how I hold people accountable. Now you may not feel that it's a great deterrent or whatever but so what? The point is that the c00ns(blacks who work against the community) should be called out. I mean we can't stop any black person from c00ning, does that mean that we should turn a blind eye to their behavior and stop calling them out?

you're just strawmanning and dont want to be called out on it.

You don't know what a straw man is. You said that women are not equal to men and should be treated like children because they aren't capable of being held accountable for their actions. That's saying that their inferior. You're just too p*ssy and dishonest to cop to it.

what would you have the black womans communal roles be?

Being good mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, ect who are committed to uplifting and rebuilding the community.

and just stop saying they should be held accountable because black men dont have the power or infastructure to hold women accountable.

You're a simple narrow minded type of cat. Calling someone out is a way of holding them accountable.

if the black community were a car that the BW just crashed into a tree, are you going to hold her accountable for fixing it? even if she doesn't know how to fix a car and shouldn't have been in the damn drivers seat in the first place? how the HELL are any of you going to hold them accountable outside of wagging your finger at them online?

This is a piss poor analogy. I said that black women should be held accountable for their own actions, not "crashing" the black community into a tree. If a woman crashes into a tree due to nobody's fault but her own then she should be held accountable.
called women inferior to women? if you allow women to lead and they fail, they'll turn back at the man and ask "why did you let me lead"

sounding like a damn broken record. "b-b-but if we held them accountable " FOH

The smileys aren't helping your dumb ass bruh. Every adult should be held accountable for their own actions, not just women. Lame b*stard, probably ain't had p*ssy since it had you.

other races actually have a structure and community that's being betrayed. they can enact SANCTIONS on those they perceive as race traitors. black men are not in the position to hold anyone accountable for ANYTHING. what dont you nikkas understand about this shyt? if all we can do is wag our finger, then we've got some pretty ineffective power.

You're all over the place. First your argument was that women are unequal, are like children, and shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for their actions because they're incapable of doing so. Now you're saying that because black men don't have any collective power to punish black women, we shouldn't even call them out on dysfunctional behavior. You'll literally say anything. You're a clown.

 

[marcuz]

Boy you're a lying ass motherfukker. You've clearly taken the position that black women aren't needed to rebuild the community.

i've taken the position that women are NOT community builders, that is the job of the men. when we see other races setting up shop in black communities, its USUALLY men. or do you see a bunch of women from other races building in black neighborhoods?

See I try to keep it respectful but there's no way I can respect someone who's deliberately dishonest. Who said something about being the sole provider?Stop talking out of both sides of your ass bruh. Not only did imply that You're the sole provider in your fam, you've talked on and on about how it's a man's duty to protect/provide and that women shouldn't be expected to perform a man's duties.

i didn't imply i was the sole provider, i implied its not even CLOSE to 50/50 and i take on the bulk share of the financial responsibilities; as men are supposed to.

Notice how you keep trying to shame me for "equalizing myself to women", yet when I call you out for belittling women as inferior you deny it like a coward. It's ironic because I know plenty of women with bigger balls than you.

i'm not belittling them, i just understand our roles in society should not be equalized.

The black family structure hasn't been destroyed because black men have equalized themselves to women. The black family has been destroyed because there's a system in place to destroy the black family. Just like during slavery, black men are basically ripped away from the black family via the prison system. The one's who aren't in prison are disenfranchised for the most part making it extremely difficult for black men to head black households supporting black families. You have your own personal agenda here.

black men have cosigned the feminist belief that women are just as capable as men. there is a system in place to destroy the black family unit, and black men fall right into it by believing the women don't need protection or provisions from their men. every successful group works as a patriarchy, the men lay down the foundations for the women and children to thrive. the black community can be no different if you want to see some type of parity between races.

That's not a complaint, that's a taunt. Get a dictionary and learn the difference between the two words. Again, the complaint that the site(and the swirl movement as a whole) is built on is that black men don't appreciate black women and only want light-brights or non black women. The chic who started and "owns" the site constantly goes on and on about how shytty she's been treated by black men all her life. How black men always made her feel ugly for being dark skinned blah blah blah.

i've posted about the beyondblackwhite site in 2012. they're complaints aren't relegated to colorism. they complain they can't find black men that are economically fit. they complain about poor deadbeats. they complain about having to financially struggle with black men in relationships

but even if you want to role with the lack of appreciation argument, fine, black men still have to combat those messages with our own media. (that doesnt even exist) women cant build their own pedestal and put themselves on it. men have to go off and build that pedestal just like every other group.

Straw man.

what strawman? i'm agreeing with you. i like my woman soft, weak and dainty. hair done, feet soft, no attitude. funny part is when black men start getting money, the last type of chick they choose is some hardened masculine chick that's been working a 9-5 since 17. they go out and find the trophy that EXPECTS the man to be economically her superior.

I exposed you in that lie earlier. Stop being a p*ssy scared to say how you truly feel

i did say how i feel, and calling them inferior wasn't one of them

Leaders lead because people follow, they don't wait for anyone's permission. You think that anyone gave Harriet Tubman "permission"?

we're talking about co-leadership; which is your position.

I most certainly can hold people I think are behaving in ways that I don't agree with accountable.

how, how are you holding the bedwenches and "biracial c00ns" accountable? i've asked you several times nwo

Accountability and punishment are two different things dumb fukk. I've described how I hold people accountable. Now you may not feel that it's a great deterrent or whatever but so what? The point is that the c00ns(blacks who work against the community) should be called out. I mean we can't stop any black person from c00ning, does that mean that we should turn a blind eye to their behavior and stop calling them out?

accountable


adjective ac·count·able \ə-ˈkau̇n-tə-bəl\
: required to explain actions or decisions to someone

: required to be responsible for something

how are ANY bedwenches required to explain their actions or decisions to you? what sanctions can you place on anyone? like i said, you can tdo shyt but wag ya finger at them and that aint holding anyone fukkin accountable.

Being good mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, ect who are committed to uplifting and rebuilding the community.

yeah, i agree. that's what i believe as well. except i'm not going to throw BW in the trenches and expect them to rebuild the PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE with other men. i'm not going to request women bring 50% ofresources to the table, that's where we hit different roads.

You're a simple narrow minded type of cat. Calling someone out is a way of holding them accountable.

by definition, that is NOT holding them accountable. that's you wagging ya finger trying to shame them. no one is required to answer to you or any other black man until we build a community that they are dependent upon.

This is a piss poor analogy. I said that black women should be held accountable for their own actions, not "crashing" the black community into a tree. If a woman crashes into a tree due to nobody's fault but her own then she should be held accountable.

keep the analogy going. the BC is crashed into a tree and you've held the woman accountable. she says its your fault for allowing her to drive, now what? you're still left with a broken car, what's the next move?

The smileys aren't helping your dumb ass bruh. Every adult should be held accountable for their own actions, not just women. Lame b*stard, probably ain't had p*ssy since it had you.

accountable


adjective ac·count·able \ə-ˈkau̇n-tə-bəl\
: required to explain actions or decisions to someone

: required to be responsible for something

just reposting again since you seem to seriously lack the concept of being held accountable.

You're all over the place. First your argument was that women are unequal, are like children, and shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for their actions because they're incapable of doing so. Now you're saying that because black men don't have any collective power to punish black women, we shouldn't even call them out on dysfunctional behavior. You'll literally say anything. You're a clown.

once again, creating your own arguments from words i've never used. show me where i said women shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for their actions? i said you cannot hold them accountable for behavior you dont like (such as bedwenching) you can call out their behavior all you want, you can wag your finger all day, but that aint holding anyone accountable. it wont stop BW from going in another direction long as the other group is providing tangibles.

 

[TMNT4000]

I agree. BUT the comments in the article are less about the celebs (actualy not at all about them) and more about shytting on the entity that is the black man. THey also fail to acknowledge any type of issues that arise



I'm quite civil in public but had a female said that shyt in real life I'd curse that bytch smooooth the fukk out

What was her reaction after you cursed her out?

 

[AntiVenom]

the so called bedwenches are already showing you hostility and distrust. how can you deny them support that you dont even provide?

Thats cool. Im just for circling the wagons against them.

i'm not fine with women sharing the same load of responsibilities and you'll find that MOST women (including all women of other races) wont support that bullshyt either.

Then thats your problem not mine. You go right ahead and be the beast of burden for black women. Tell me how that works out for you too.

you JUST said you want black women to carry the same responsibilities as men! yeah, they advocate independence until they fukk up, then who gets the blame? i choose NOTHING because equality is a flawed concept.

Damn right I do. I demand that they carry the same burdens. And Like I said nothing or equality is fine by me so either way and Im good. But not this "lets build for black women" bullshyt. Ill just extinction before I go that route.

if black women are fully capable, why are so many black neighborhoods run down and shytty?

Because no one is doing shyt. Theres no maintence or investment coming in from either black men or women.

i'm wrong but y'all main complaint is how the BW is working against the BM. get real

You are wrong and yes that is our main complaint.

 

[AntiVenom]

Community building doesn't start with businesses. It starts with the family. We've got to rebuild the black family before we can rebuild the black community. The reason that you don't see black businesses now in the socalled black communities is because the family structure has basically been destroyed. We don't really have a community, just a bunch of individuals trying to make willing to slit each other's throats to do it.

Why would you even want to exclude women from networking, starting businesses and all of that? How does treating women as if they are incapable of doing those things help the community?

Because he's a chauvanist. Thats the only reason why he would want to exclude able bodied women from getting their hands dirty. Youre right there is no real community. And things will never get repaired if he's willing to force women away from sharing half of the burden of the community that theyre supposedly a part of.

Bruh, saying that women are unequal to men, shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions, and are like children is saying that they are inferior.

Hes too stupid to see that.

My way of holding blacks accountable(man and woman) is to speak out against behavior that I find unacceptable and to not support those who willfully exhibit the behavior. We should suppodt those who are representing and call out the one's who are being counterproductive. That's all that we can do at this point.

Those are the only black women that will EVER get my support. Let the others burn for all i care.

Whether calling out c00ns/bedwenches stops them or not, they need to be called out.

Boom.

 

[Scott Larock]

Marcuz, your argument falls flat when Hispanics are thrown into the mix, they maintain family while usually living in poverty. I see you don't think much of women outside of cooking, cleaning and sex but don't let these bedwenches fool you, many of them take care of white men and men of other races.

 

[AntiVenom]

Marcuz, your argument falls flat when Hispanics are thrown into the mix, they maintain family while usually living in poverty. I see you don't think much of women outside of cooking, cleaning and sex but don't let these bedwenches fool you, many of them take care of white men and men of other races.

Boom.