i've taken the position that women are NOT community builders that is the job of the men.
Women are essential to building a community. You can't build a community without women.
when we see other races setting up shop in black communities, its USUALLY men. or do you see a bunch of women from other races building in black neighborhoods?
Setting up shop to open up a business in another race's neighborhood isn't building a community. When other races build their own communities the women are most certainly apart of that. Women have the kids and are usually the one's mainly responsible for raising them. That's a huge part of building a community. If you want a community full of men who are capable of providing/protecting then you need women who are capable of raising those kinds of men.
Even when looking at the businesses that other races set up in black communities, the women are a huge part of that. Whether it's the nail shops, the beauty supply stores, the corner stores, the restaurants, clothes stores, ect. You see women everywhere either running the businesses themselves or helping their men run the businesses. Those businesses are certainly not built by men only independent of women. The only foreign businesses in black communities where you might not see a woman is in those little bullshyt Arab tobacco stores. You don't know what the fukk you're talking about.
i didn't imply i was the sole provider
You're a liar who talks from both sides of your ass. You did imply that you were the sole provider and you've said that providing is a man's duty and that women shouldn't be expected to perform a man's duty.
i pay the bills, i provide, and i make sure she doesn't have to struggle for anything.
You said "I" pay the bills and provide, not "we". Stop lying so gotdamn much.
i'm not belittling them, i just understand our roles in society should not be equalized.
You're lying ass bytch. Describe women as unequal to men, say that they should be treated like children not responsible for their own behavior, then say that you're not belittling them.
at any dumb broad that's with you.
black men have cosigned the feminist belief that women are just as capable as men. there is a system in place to destroy the black family unit, and black men fall right into it by believing the women don't need protection or provisions from their men.
You're another lie. Black men have cosigned no such thing. Some black women have adopted this kind of mentality and that partly explains the rift between some black men and women.
This is about believing that women being held accountable for their own actions, not the shyt that you pull from your ass to cloud the issue with. Nobody said anything about black women not needing black men.
every successful group works as a patriarchy, the men lay down the foundations for the women and children to thrive. the black community can be no different if you want to see some type of parity between races.
Another deflection. This isn't about patriarchy clown. Black women should be held accountable for their actions whether our community is patriarchal or not.
but even if you want to role with the lack of appreciation argument, fine, black men still have to combat those messages with our own media. (that doesnt even exist) women cant build their own pedestal and put themselves on it. men have to go off and build that pedestal just like every other group.
Yes we have to build our own shyt, nobody disputes that. The disagreement is with your "black men have got to go at it on our own because women just aren't capable" bullshyt. That's a dumb ass impractical way to look at it. Black women are certainly capable and should be expected to assist in the rebuilding and strengthening of the community. Why shouldn't black women be expected to assist in establishing our own media outlets? Why shouldn't black women be expected to assist in establishing our own businesses? Why shouldn't black women be expected to assist in circulating our dollars inside the community?
i did say how i feel, and calling them inferior wasn't one of them
You described women as inferior dumb fukk. That's the same thing as calling them inferior. You're just a p*ssy scared to keep it all the way real. The irony is hilarious.
we're talking about co-leadership; which is your position.
No, we're tking about women being held responsible for their own behavior. Your position is that they shouldn't be held responsible for their own actions and should be treated like children. My position is that you're a fukking idiot for believing that.
how, how are you holding the bedwenches and "biracial c00ns" accountable? i've asked you several times nwo
accountable
adjective ac·count·able \ə-ˈkau̇n-tə-bəl\
: required to explain actions or decisions to someone
: required to be responsible for something
how are ANY bedwenches required to explain their actions or decisions to you? what sanctions can you place on anyone? like i said, you can tdo shyt but wag ya finger at them and that aint holding anyone fukkin accountable.
I've told you several times. I hold c00ns accountable by calling them out and withdrawing my support. You can ask that dumb ass question over and over but my answer won't change.
Since you feel feel that men are the only one's who should be held accountable for taking on any real responsibilities. How do you hold other men accountable? Why are you in here calling out men for "equalizing themselves to women" when you can't do anything to hold them accountable for doing so?
yeah, i agree. that's what i believe as well. except i'm not going to throw BW in the trenches and expect them to rebuild the PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE with other men. i'm not going to request women bring 50% ofresources to the table, that's where we hit different roads.
Straw man. I haven't said anything about percentages of resources that need to be brought to the table, "physical infrastructure", or any of the shyt that you're talking about. All I've said is that your position that women shouldn't be held responsible for displaying dysfunctional behavior because they don't know any better is nonsense. Saying that women should be treated like children is nonsense. Women are responsible for their own actions and behavior. It's that simple.
by definition, that is NOT holding them accountable. that's you wagging ya finger trying to shame them. no one is required to answer to you or any other black man until we build a community that they are dependent upon.
The existence of your version of an ideal black community wouldn't "require" black women to answer to black man either you idiot. No adult is required to answer or explain themselves to another adult. That's why you look stupid trying to make this about laws and what we can/can't force black women to do. We'll never be able to "lawfully force" black men and women to stop c00ning and working against the community, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't call them out in efforts to curb that behavior. I just don't get this "well since you can't force them to stop c00ning, why call them out?" position of yours.
keep the analogy going. the BC is crashed into a tree and you've held the woman accountable. she says its your fault for allowing her to drive, now what? you're still left with a broken car, what's the next move?
It's an invalid analogy. Nobody is making the argument that black women have "crashed" the black community. The argument is that everybody is responsible for their own actions, not just black men. Black women should not get a pass for willfully behaving in dysfunctional ways or willfully working against the community.
adjective ac·count·able \ə-ˈkau̇n-tə-bəl\
: required to explain actions or decisions to someone
: required to be responsible for something
just reposting again since you seem to seriously lack the concept of being held accountable.
And I'll ask you again. How do you hold men accountable? Since you can't force or require men to answer or explain themselves to you then why are you on here "wagging your finger"?
once again, creating your own arguments from words i've never used. show me where i said women shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for their actions?
You'll lie quicker than a cat can lick it's ass. It's almost like you forget about the dumb shyt that you've said.
they are NOT equals and they may as well be treated like children, because you cant hold them accountable by nature. women will always revert back to male responsibility when they fukk up.
i said you cannot hold them accountable for behavior you dont like (such as bedwenching) you can call out their behavior all you want, you can wag your finger all day, but that aint holding anyone accountable. it wont stop BW from going in another direction long as the other group is providing tangibles.
By this logic nobody in the black community can be held accountable by anybody else in the black community. You're in here wagging your finger at black men but you can't do shyt to hold them accountable for behavior that you don't like. So why don't you take your own advice and shut the fukk up until you can?
sounds like a few of the women posters on this site
