That Roddy Ricch flop and fall off is wild when you think about it.

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Not really. Hits are hits, especially in an era where the right song can go crazy on TikTok or twitter.

Roddy tried to do a bunch of things and it didn't really work. Part of that is because the album wasn't great, and part of it is simply that most mainstream black artists are put in a very specific box (no pun intended) and any attempt to get out is clowned or not understood. There's a track on his album - Moved To Miami - with a drum and bass intro. I remember people on the Coli and twitter clowning that shyt, wondering wtf it is, just straight up laughing at him for...briefly dabbling in a genre/wave they've never heard. How do you evolve with listeners like that.

Same thing happened to Bryson Tiller. Same thing happened to Solange.
That move to Miami shyt is fukkin fire too. Baby absolutely floated on that
 

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Not really. Hits are hits, especially in an era where the right song can go crazy on TikTok or twitter.

Roddy tried to do a bunch of things and it didn't really work. Part of that is because the album wasn't great, and part of it is simply that most mainstream black artists are put in a very specific box (no pun intended) and any attempt to get out is clowned or not understood. There's a track on his album - Moved To Miami - with a drum and bass intro. I remember people on the Coli and twitter clowning that shyt, wondering wtf it is, just straight up laughing at him for...briefly dabbling in a genre/wave they've never heard. How do you evolve with listeners like that.

Same thing happened to Bryson Tiller. Same thing happened to Solange.
A seat at the table was a fluke

Tiller second album had not hits and it was too long because it came at a time when artist thought longer albums = more steams. That album is received much better if it’s 14 songs instead of 19. It was a decent album that didn’t have any direction. I know he wishes he had a redo. His 3rd project was great

now Roddy Rich. His 2nd album sounds like someone that was creatively bankrupt like Wiz after Kush & OJ. There’s songs on that album that sound amateurish. It’s rare that you see consensus from the culture on a project being trash.

‘there’s some revisionist history In this thread. People were talking about Roddy as the next one when he was releasing those feed the streets tapes and he got on everyones radar when he dropped “down below” then the racks and the middle hook and balling put him into the mainstream. He didn’t come out of nowhere with “the box’.

his debut album wasn’t just the box. It was a great album
 

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A seat at the table was a fluke

Tiller second album had not hits and it was too long because it came at a time when artist thought longer albums = more steams. That album is received much better if it’s 14 songs instead of 19. It was a decent album that didn’t have any direction. I know he wishes he had a redo. His 3rd project was great

now Roddy Rich. His 2nd album sounds like someone that was creatively bankrupt like Wiz after Kush & OJ. There’s songs on that album that sound amateurish. It’s rare that you see consensus from the culture on a project being trash.

‘there’s some revisionist history In this thread. People were talking about Roddy as the next one when he was releasing those feed the streets tapes and he got on everyones radar when he dropped “down below” then the racks and the middle hook and balling put him into the mainstream. He didn’t come out of nowhere with “the box’.

his debut album wasn’t just the box. It was a great album
Still, both those albums were clowned and failed to do what they were expected to do. And there was a clear musical/wave shift on both too, mixed with some of the old shyt and the result was kind of a mess.

I think Roddy kinda out-melodied himself too. Like there's only so much shyt you can do crooning over beats like that. Same way that at his worst, Future gets extremely stale with the melodies. Roddy gotta figure out how to mix enough of his old shyt with some newer ideas...like Future lol.

Breh you know the Coli has been braindead to new music since 2013. Anything that posters missed or waves they didn't know about are "new" when they notice it. People reacting to Baby/Gunna/etc the same way they reacted to Thugger when he came out. Late to the party and then arguing the party is gonna end because that person is clearly a one hit wonder. And then the artist keeps having hits for a decade, at which point the Coli cries about real rap being dead lol.
 

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Roddy never had a fanbase and his last album was generic mid

U get the feeling that fans don’t really know him as an artist he doesn’t get introspective at all

His peers like Uzi and A boogie built up loyal fanbases
 

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Excuse Me for being Anti social album was a complete fluke….That album was incredible for the lane he was at that time….Damn near every song was on the radio and being played.

Album probably would’ve did bigger numbers if not for the covid shutdown but it still made an impact and with the follow up, he waited too long, as his popularity started to skyrocket, he became recluse and anti social no pun….

The songs were just garbage and bland…The magic/energy was missing, no effort, weak ass melodies…And the album sales reflected that.

If Roddy don’t come back with a banging mixtape or album then yeah he’s done.
 

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Roddy never had a fanbase and his last album was generic mid

U get the feeling that fans don’t really know him as an artist he doesn’t get introspective at all

His peers like Uzi and A boogie built up loyal fanbases

This here.

People will throw streaming numbers at you all day, and hit you with the "he's platinum" shyt. But the truth is, people today are more into songs than artists. They will fukk with a single song and not even check for someone's album. It's not like before where people took their money and spent on their favorite MC's whole project and would go front to back through every track. Today, they want the song and that's it. And they can just stream that for free. So if you don’t build an actual fanbase and connect with them heavy, you're most likely done once that single cools off.
 

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Roddy Rich album wouldn't good,but I do know that "Move To Miami" feat Lil Baby and that "Don't I" feat Gunna slaps in a whip and he should have drop them songs as singles
 

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I didn't get that Roddy Rich summer. I would've never knew he was from Cali cuz all these nikkas sound the same with the autotune.

Lol I stay preaching this.

Him and Lil tjay and Polo G all blew in the same year with a song and some follow ups but I kid you not. Roddy and Tjay I just knew were from Atlanta, come to find out one of these nikkas from cali and the other from New York. :skip:
 

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Not really. Hits are hits, especially in an era where the right song can go crazy on TikTok or twitter.

Roddy tried to do a bunch of things and it didn't really work. Part of that is because the album wasn't great, and part of it is simply that most mainstream black artists are put in a very specific box (no pun intended) and any attempt to get out is clowned or not understood. There's a track on his album - Moved To Miami - with a drum and bass intro. I remember people on the Coli and twitter clowning that shyt, wondering wtf it is, just straight up laughing at him for...briefly dabbling in a genre/wave they've never heard. How do you evolve with listeners like that.

Same thing happened to Bryson Tiller. Same thing happened to Solange.
Shame what happened to Tiller, because his 3rd album was great
 

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Not really. Hits are hits, especially in an era where the right song can go crazy on TikTok or twitter.

Roddy tried to do a bunch of things and it didn't really work. Part of that is because the album wasn't great, and part of it is simply that most mainstream black artists are put in a very specific box (no pun intended) and any attempt to get out is clowned or not understood. There's a track on his album - Moved To Miami - with a drum and bass intro. I remember people on the Coli and twitter clowning that shyt, wondering wtf it is, just straight up laughing at him for...briefly dabbling in a genre/wave they've never heard. How do you evolve with listeners like that.

Same thing happened to Bryson Tiller. Same thing happened to Solange.

Idk why, that Moved To Miami is fukkin dope, but that intro was dumb af, but I Kno how to edit songs, I just edited it out, but if they laughing at the song itself they are dumb fukks and missing out
 
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Lol I stay preaching this.

Him and Lil tjay and Polo G all blew in the same year with a song and some follow ups but I kid you not. Roddy and Tjay I just knew were from Atlanta, come to find out one of these nikkas from cali and the other from New York. :skip:
Lil Tjay don’t sound like he from Atlanta

It’s Roddy that sounds like Thug
 

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Don’t know if we can apply the fans don’t care or aren’t loyal argument when it’s universally agreed upon the album is trash.

I won’t say dropping classics , but being consistent with quality will always keep people checking for you


Like others have said

he can bounce back…


But if he continues to drop mid he’s done for
 
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