Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
but you have ppl in this room excusing it is the point
That era could have been the wild wild west and the crime Bill could have gone too far
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The 1994 crime bill.
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but you have ppl in this room excusing it is the point
That era could have been the wild wild west and the crime Bill could have gone too far
Yapdatfool
Superstar
There is no COULD have... it clearly did and its ramifications are being felt to this day.
Private prisons, prisoner abuse, mass incarceration, police brutality with 0 accountability (to the nth power) and militarization of police are all results of this here bill IMO one way or another.
Crime is still low, but was it worth it though
To some no, to others yes. And that's where the lines in the sand are drawn.
People forget how different things were because things are so soft now. All these people walking around with $1000 phones and Gucci belts and sneakers would have been food in the 80s thru mid 90s. No downtown condos. No hipster restaurants. Drive by shootings and reading about little kids hit by strays at schools and playgrounds every other day. Something heavy handed was always going to be the result.
where I hold the Democrats accountable on this (since this is all we do now) is they should have repealed it and made economic amends to the community in the aftermath.
where I hold the Democrats accountable on this (since this is all we do now) is they should have repealed it and made economic amends to the community in the aftermath.
Tommy Knocks
retired
no lies. speed chases were a regular occurance in those days. back in like 92 some ol NWA days. thats why they adopted the ghetto bird (helicopters) cause shyt was lawless af. almost brazil /mexico fukkery levels. glad i survived but also appreciative i witnessed it and could put things into perspective.
We are really trying to excuse the crime bill now
I was born in 84 so I remember that era clearly. I had both crack dealers, and crackheads in family. Me and my mother’s home was broken into multiple times to the point where we had bars on our windows. I heard gunshots all the time at an early age. I lived through that era and I still feel it is no excuses for that terrible piece of legislation. I don’t care if the members of the CBC supported the bill. We all know many members of the CBC are bought by corporate interests. Even with that said, Bill Clinton had to personally apply pressure to many of the CBC members in order to get the bill passed.
Look we can justify voting for Biden, without making excuses for his role in pushing for tough on crime legislation in the 80s and 90s. The 94 crime bill incentivized states to build more prisons and gave excessive/unfair sentences for non violent offenders. There was much better ways to address the increase in crime. These tough on crime bills were pushed by racist human garbage like Strom Thurmond. Think about that before trying to defend it.
I was born in 84 so I remember that era clearly. I had both crack dealers, and crackheads in family. Me and my mother’s home was broken into multiple times to the point where we had bars on our windows. I heard gunshots all the time at an early age. I lived through that era and I still feel it is no excuses for that terrible piece of legislation. I don’t care if the members of the CBC supported the bill. We all know many members of the CBC are bought by corporate interests. Even with that said, Bill Clinton had to personally apply pressure to many of the CBC members in order to get the bill passed.
Look we can justify voting for Biden, without making excuses for his role in pushing for tough on crime legislation in the 80s and 90s. The 94 crime bill incentivized states to build more prisons and gave excessive/unfair sentences for non violent offenders. There was much better ways to address the increase in crime. These tough on crime bills were pushed by racist human garbage like Strom Thurmond. Think about that before trying to defend it.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
We are really trying to excuse the crime bill now
I was born in 84 so I remember that era clearly. I had both crack dealers, and crackheads in family. Me and my mother’s home was broken into multiple times to the point where we had bars on our windows. I heard gunshots all the time at an early age. I lived through that era and I still feel it is no excuses for that terrible piece of legislation. I don’t care if the members of the CBC supported the bill. We all know many members of the CBC are bought by corporate interests. Even with that said, Bill Clinton had to personally apply pressure to many of the CBC members in order to get the bill passed.
Look we can justify voting for Biden, without making excuses for his role in pushing for tough on crime legislation in the 80s and 90s. The 94 crime bill incentivized states to build more prisons and gave excessive/unfair sentences for non violent offenders. There was much better ways to address the increase in crime. These tough on crime bills were pushed by racist human garbage like Strom Thurmond. Think about that before trying to defend it.
I’m not defending Biden. In fact I ain’t even voting for him or trump.
as for the crime bill and that era, I lost relatives and friends. In DC and VA. shyt was out of control. But getting lock up is part of the game. They brought down the mob via tax laws. And they used Rico laws which originated to stop the mob against black people. When you play that game you know what’s at stake. The 3 strikes is the only shyt I never agreed with, to me it’s lazy policing.
but I’m not going to defend nikkas breaking the law. My uncle got locked up in 2000. 40 year sentence. He knew the rules when he decided to get caught up in that life.
I only bring up the bill because now all of a sudden people want to speak on it like it’s brand new
to me that’s bullshyt.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
How come Iran Contra is legit but "Russiagate" isn't?
I’m not defending breaking the law but the bill itself wasn’t the correct response. Especially the parts of the bill I mentioned. Then they put in the Violence Against Women portion of the bill to box in politicians that would of voted against it. Again it was a better way to address the problem.I’m not defending Biden. In fact I ain’t even voting for him or trump.
as for the crime bill and that era, I lost relatives and friends. In DC and VA. shyt was out of control. But getting lock up is part of the game. They brought down the mob via tax laws. And they used Rico laws which originated to stop the mob against black people. When you play that game you know what’s at stake. The 3 strikes is the only shyt I never agreed with, to me it’s lazy policing.
but I’m not going to defend nikkas breaking the law. My uncle got locked up in 2000. 40 year sentence. He knew the rules when he decided to get caught up in that life.
I only bring up the bill because now all of a sudden people want to speak on it like it’s brand new
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Secure Da Bag
Veteran
Biden voted for the Crime Bill. Biden was the one who forced Reagan to go from 20-1 to 100-1 crack-cocaine disparity. The bill never address the issue, only the low level symptoms (ex: lock up anyone on the block longer than 5 minutes). And yes, I grew up during that era. I remember very well bodies dropping left and right.
My issue is this and where Clinton and Biden fail: Why hasn't either one of them: presented a bill that completely reversed Crime Bill and disparity laws? And deal with the traffickers instead of the dealers? Provided heavy economic relief to those cities/areas?
You can make a decent argument that the bill was a product of the times, but clearly there was more to it than that. And the people directly involved are showing that.
EDIT: I forgot to say that he also helped write the Crime Bill.
My issue is this and where Clinton and Biden fail: Why hasn't either one of them: presented a bill that completely reversed Crime Bill and disparity laws? And deal with the traffickers instead of the dealers? Provided heavy economic relief to those cities/areas?
You can make a decent argument that the bill was a product of the times, but clearly there was more to it than that. And the people directly involved are showing that.
EDIT: I forgot to say that he also helped write the Crime Bill.
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AnonymityX1000
Veteran
There's more actual proof. lol
The worst part of the crack era was from 87/88-98. So if you were born in 84, you remember when it was dying down. Nobody should have to live with bars on their windows. To even think that is ok shows a level of crime acceptance that most people don’t have.We are really trying to excuse the crime bill now
I was born in 84 so I remember that era clearly. I had both crack dealers, and crackheads in family. Me and my mother’s home was broken into multiple times to the point where we had bars on our windows. I heard gunshots all the time at an early age. I lived through that era and I still feel it is no excuses for that terrible piece of legislation. I don’t care if the members of the CBC supported the bill. We all know many members of the CBC are bought by corporate interests. Even with that said, Bill Clinton had to personally apply pressure to many of the CBC members in order to get the bill passed.
Look we can justify voting for Biden, without making excuses for his role in pushing for tough on crime legislation in the 80s and 90s. The 94 crime bill incentivized states to build more prisons and gave excessive/unfair sentences for non violent offenders. There was much better ways to address the increase in crime. These tough on crime bills were pushed by racist human garbage like Strom Thurmond. Think about that before trying to defend it.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
I could have bet money it would have been you
that's all you got to say? you mad because a conservative talking point got squashed, yet again?Foh wit this bull sh!t
Biden on the 1994 Crime Bill - FactCheck.org
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The 94 crime bill did not improve the quality of life for black people ...
It is one of the reasons why police are killing us left and right because uncle Tom negros like yourself think it's a good idea to introduce sweeping legislation to people who are economically oppressed already.
The most despicable part is that you and others on here are finding ways to justify this awful crime bill to get Biden elected when he said himself that it was a mistake...
So who's side are you really on?
when did i say it improved our quality of life?????? NOBODY is justifying it, conservatives control the supreme court, white house and senate, why aren't they repealing it? because they by and large fukkin hate us.
Biden even said that shyt was a misstep in his career, but you must've forgot who reagan is and what he did to our community. y'all trying to rewrite history and blame it all on the crime bill is an effort to delegitimize biden's campaign and could help a known racist gets reelected. so who's side are you really on?