The 2012-2013 NBA Random Thoughts Thread

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He's still rookie.

:beli: But, still though, 1 minute though!!! I'm sorry, but you don't do that to a player that has a breakout game like that. He has shown some really good flashes of being a very good big man, especially on defense too. I don't know why he is still rolling with Ersan when he has been completely :trash: so far.
 

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:beli: But, still though, 1 minute though!!! I'm sorry, but you don't do that to a player that has a breakout game like that. He has shown some really good flashes of being a very good big man, especially on defense too. I don't know why he is still rolling with Ersan when he has been completely :trash: so far.

Dog, they have depth at that position. The only way he gets heavy minutes if he played for a team with no depth or an injury occurs to one of their starters. He also had a breakout game against The Heat who play small. Ersan is their second highest paid player. You better believe he's gonna get minutes no matter how dreadful he plays.
 
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Yeah he seems to have added basically nothing to his game since his rookie year...even with no actual improvement to his skill set I assumed he'd be putting up prime amare numbers playing with CP3...but his production has actually decreased
Reason why he isn't =
2010/2011 Season -

466 assisted field goals (overall) at 67%
265 assisted field goals (rim) at 68%
111 assisted field goals (3-9ft) at 58%
24 assisted field goals (10-15ft) at 57%
59 assisted field goals (16-3pt) at 83%

2011/2012 Season -

352 assisted field goals (overall) at 62%
255 assisted field goals (rim) at 65%
65 assisted field goals (3-9ft) at 45%
11 assisted field goals (10-15ft) at 52%
75 assisted field goals (16-3pt) at 81%

As you can see he shot a higher percentage on ALL assisted field goals in his rookie season compared to his sophomore season with Paul. A major reason for this is the 2010/2011 PG's (Davis, Williams, Bledsoe + Gordon) would use the momentum of the roll in P&R situations, by dishing it straight away, making it one-fluid motion from x-distributor to Griffin. And if the P&R broke down, they would reset.

'His pairing with Paul is that CP3 loves to keep his dribble alive. Paul keeping his dribble alive is not a bad thing by any means, it just makes for a bad combo with Griffin because of Blake’s instincts. When Griffin gets the ball right away, he’s fantastic. But Paul isn’t delivering the ball right away. Instead, like he did with Tyson Chandler, Paul is dribbling more to probe the defense even further. But unlike Tyson Chandler, Griffin is not finding his way to the rim so that Paul can lob it to him once he creates an opening. His instinct is to float out to the perimeter like David West did.'

LOWER PPG:

2010/2011 Season - 38 MPG / 8.5-16.8 FGM-A / .50 FG% / 5.4-8.5 FTM-A / .64 FT% / 22.5 PPG

2011/2012 Season - 36.2 MPG / 8.5-15.5 FGM-A / .54 FG% / 3.7-7.1 FTM-A / .52 FT% / 20.7 PPG

He's averaged the same amount of 'field goals made' this season as he did last season - except in LESS minutes.

Now he averaged more minutes last season; the PPG comparison isn't entirely accurate, if we were to equal his minutes for each season you would find his Per 48 - 28.5 PPG in his rookie season and 27.5 PPG in his sophomore season - 1 less point per game. Now if we went further and took his free throw percentage from 2010/2011 and used it for his 2011/2012 season he would be 6.1 from 9.4 FTM-A at 64% (per 48). Differential being 1.2, added onto 27.5 = 28.7 PPG.

Per 48 minutes - 2010/2011 Season = 28.5 PPG. 2011/2012 season = 28.7 PPG. The only regression in his scoring game is his free throw percentage.

LOWER RPG:

2010/2011 Season - 38 MPG / 3.3 ORPG / 12.1 RPG - Per 48 = 15.3 RPG

2010/2011 Season - 36.2 MPG / 3.3 ORPG / 10.9 RPG - Per 48 = 14.4 RPG

Equal minutes and Griffin averaged 0.9 less total rebounds compared to his rookie season, however if you take into account DeAndre Jordan's increase in MPG (25.6 to 27.2) which increased his RPG (7.2 to 8.3) from the last two seasons = the 1.6 minutes and 1.1 rebounds more from Jordan in the 2011/2012 season, that Griffin didn't have hindering/influencing his own rebounding numbers in his rookie season.

BLOCKS ARE STILL LOW FOR SOMEONE WITH HIS ATHLETIC ABILITY:

He'll never be able to completely maximise his athletic ability for blocking, when he's LAST in standing reaches and second to last in wingspan for starting PF's + the lack of defensive instincts; however he has IMPROVED his blocking-ability + overall defense this season.

FREE THROW PERCENTAGE DECREASED:

As stated above, this is really the only part of his game that has regressed.

My point being - the generality of 'Blake Griffin's game has regressed' is not an adequate-bearing of how he played in 2011/2012 in comparison to 2010/2011; it's MORE that he hasn't improved and LESS that he has regressed. His game is at a plateau. Within his FIRST two seasons, he went from - Center-of-offense → 1b playing with a ball-dominant PG = stunted growth.
Fast forward to this season - the production (points, rebounds etc etc) + minutes are distributed throughout their team that he ain't gonna average the same shyt he did in his rookie season. Plus the growth of Jordan was always gonna affect Blake's #s too.
 

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i noticed all of that

cp3 style has not helped blakes game at all. rookie blake had every defense collapsing
 

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:obama: ET with 10 first quarter points already :yes: And :salute: and props to the Philly fans for giving Elton a standing O, he was and still is a class act, great show of respect, for once :youngsabo: lol
 

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I'm a 30 point game away from officially becoming an Evan Turner stan.

EDIT: I just cursed out Kwame Brown for taking Evan's rebound. Yup, it's starting.
 

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Jermaine O'Neal still playing :dwillhuh:

Playing for the Suns now. just saw him and Tyler Zeller get tangled up with Zeller looking at him like :merchant: with his hands up like "don't hurt me" :russ:
 

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:ohhh: Was that Nick Young with a great assist, and more importantly, a PASS to Dorrell Wright for a dunk?? :merchant: :rudy: Man what is Doug doing by having Turner on the bench for that long when he is on fire tonight.
 

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:wtf: :merchant: Vince Carter is carrying the Mav's on his back playing like he is in his prime right now!!!!! :wow:
 
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